# 7 Jan 2021 and beyond - the aftermath of the storming of the Capitol **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 8, 2021, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020 "2021-01-08T10:28:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 44
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2021, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/865 "2021-01-23T17:47:51Z")
They don’t have to, and I doubt that the donor was expecting them to. The whole reason for this is to make public the statement that they no longer support her. I do wonder how it would work out for people who donated to the MAGA campaign on their credit card to start disputing the charges. ---
**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2021, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/866 "2021-01-23T20:11:17Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > Whatever one thinks of Boebert (she’s a scumbag) I have zero sympathy for anyone who wants a donation back. I cannot fathom the stupidity of that. The point of the donation is to help the candidate get elected. Boebert was elected. He got precisely what he paid for. The money is almost certainly spent; it’s not like the Boebert campaign can go to the company that printed the T-shirts and ask for that money back. If you find your donations were sent to what turned out to be disagreeable candidates, take the L and do your homework next time. It was only $5,600. It would be surprising if her campaign didn’t have that much cash on hand. [The Giants owner](https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/giants/giants-owner-charles-johnson-seeks-lauren-boebert-donation-refund) was pretty much pressured into doing it. If he didn’t, there would be major blowback from the fans. > [@](#): > > The Giants have faced backlash from members of their fan base both times, and this time also have seen it from influential members of the community. Christine Pelosi, Nancy Pelosi’s daughter, said she would [leave the Giants Community Fund](https://twitter.com/shannonrwatts/status/1351379703865589765) board if Johnson did not address the contributions to Boebert. On a quick search, [it turns out](https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2017/10/returned-contributions/) that refunds of campaign contributions are not rare. > [@](#): > > Refunds of campaign contributions are not rare, and most are not particularly scandalous. Losing campaigns often give back their leftover funds, although they are not legally obligated to. Some campaigns offer to refund supporters who have a change of heart, as former Sen. Arlen Specter (D-Pa.) did for his irate Republican backers [when he switched parties in 2009](http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/apr/30/donors-demand-refund-from-specter/), but that’s not required, either. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2021, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/867 "2021-01-23T21:26:22Z")
Now the DOJ is rolling out more serious charges: Threatening to assassinate a Congress-person. > **[Capitol rioter charged with threatening to 'assassinate' Rep. Ocasio-Cortez |...](https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/23/politics/garret-miller-capitol-riot-threaten-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/index.html)** > > The Justice Department revealed new charges against a Texas man who allegedly participated in the Capitol attack and posted online death threats against Democratic Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and a US Capitol Police officer. I hope every single one of these mother-lovers spends Life + 50 breaking rocks in the hot sun. Maybe with Hawley and Cruz singing Bobby Fuller tunes as work songs. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2021, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/868 "2021-01-24T23:16:42Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Maybe with Hawley and Cruz singing Bobby Fuller tunes as work songs. Dude, that would run afoul of “cruel and unusual” ! 😝 ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/869 "2021-01-25T02:50:03Z")
I got a FB “friend”- on his wall they are predicting that Joe will resign “soon” due to Hunter Biden, this was all a scam to get Harris in. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/870 "2021-01-25T03:13:06Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > I got a FB “friend”- on his wall they are predicting that Joe will resign “soon” due to Hunter Biden, this was all a scam to get Harris in Super common right-wing theory, though some think it is just for his health and age. My dad has suspected this for awhile. ---
**Author:** ![Deeg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deeg/32/2955_2.png) [@Deeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deeg)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/871 "2021-01-25T04:08:06Z")
Can you get him to bet on it? Offer good odds. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/872 "2021-01-25T04:12:26Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > I got a FB “friend”- on his wall they are predicting that Joe will resign “soon” due to Hunter Biden, this was all a scam to get Harris in. I’ve got a friend who seems to be getting the same feed from somewhere. When there was talk of invoking the 25th after the riot, I mentioned it to him and he immediately said, “After Biden’s sworn in?” Didn’t seem to occur to him that it might be used for the insurrectionist president. ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/873 "2021-01-25T04:26:09Z")
> [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](#): > > I haven’t seen too much about Rep. Lauren Boebert (Q-Anon conspiracy theorist) here although she’s all over the headlines. Supposedly, she told the rioters where Nancy Pelosi was during the riot. The latest is that one of her donors is asking for his donation back. Was there a tweet besides the one that said that Pelosi had left the room? Technically that’s tweeting where she wasn’t. Yes, I know it was stupid, but it was a threat situation. ---
**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/874 "2021-01-25T05:01:26Z")
> [@Yllaria](#): > > Was there a tweet besides the one that said that Pelosi had left the room? Technically that’s tweeting where she wasn’t. Doesn’t look like it. > **[Did Rep. Boebert Tweet About Speaker Pelosi's Location During Capitol Riot?](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/boebert-tweet-pelosi-location/)** > > As rioters broke into the U.S. Capitol. Boebert tweeted: "The Speaker has been removed from the chambers." ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/875 "2021-01-25T05:09:08Z")
They say there is a video of Joe Biden saying “I dont know what I am signing”… ---
**Author:** ![Ziberian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/919ad9/32.png) [@Ziberian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ziberian)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/876 "2021-01-25T13:47:01Z")
> [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](#): > > > [@Yllaria](#): > > > > Was there a tweet besides the one that said that Pelosi had left the room? Technically that’s tweeting where she wasn’t. > > Doesn’t look like it. > > As rioters broke into the U.S. Capitol. Boebert tweeted: “The Speaker has been removed from the chambers.” But she’s also accused of leading tours of the Capitol a few days before the riot. IF the people on the tour were the insurrectionists and IF Boebert showed them where Nancy would be going if she left the Chamber during a crisis then her tweet would be pinpointing Pelosi’s location. ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/877 "2021-01-25T15:38:55Z")
My understanding - I read it a couple weeks ago but can’t find the cite - is that lawmakers in the chamber were specifically asked not to post anything about where they were/their movements, and that Bobert’s tweet came after that warning. I can’t find the article where I read that, though, so take it with a grain of salt. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/878 "2021-01-25T15:43:55Z")
They also say that shape shifting Lizard People walk among us, and are working hand in claw with the illuminati to run the planet. I don’t listen much to what they say. ---
**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/879 "2021-01-25T18:39:34Z")
Yeah, show me the vid. And make **DAMN** sure James O’Keefe’s fingerprints are nowhere near it. I wouldn’t trust anything from him further than I can drop-kick a bowling ball. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/880 "2021-01-25T20:25:16Z")
> **[Trump supporters continue to plot violence as second impeachment trial...](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2011741)** > > Thousands of National Guard troops will remain in Washington, D.C., through the second impeachment trial of Donald Trump thanks to continuing threats of violence against lawmakers. The number of troops has already dropped and will continue to... > Thousands of National Guard troops will remain in Washington, D.C., through the second impeachment trial of Donald Trump thanks to [continuing threats of violence](https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-capitol-siege-ap-top-news-trials-impeachments-b9a44a269d6cfeee28e79b46572d28a6) against lawmakers. The number of troops has already dropped and will continue to drop from a high of around 25,000 to below 20,000 now. It is slated to drop to 5,000 in February. > > In addition to the threat of armed protesters returning during the impeachment trial, law enforcement agencies are looking into threats that were “Mainly posted online and in chat groups” and “have included plots to attack members of Congress during travel to and from the Capitol complex during the trial,” the Associated Press reported based on information from an unnamed official who “had been briefed on the matter.” > … ---
**Author:** ![Dahnlor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dahnlor/32/533_2.png) [@Dahnlor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dahnlor)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/881 "2021-01-25T21:28:31Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > I got a FB “friend”- on his wall they are predicting that Joe will resign “soon” due to Hunter Biden, this was all a scam to get Harris in. Nah, Biden won’t resign until after January 21, 2022. That way Kamala can be re-elected twice. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/882 "2021-01-25T22:03:32Z")
> [@Dahnlor](#): > > Nah, Biden won’t resign until after January 21, 2022. That way Kamala can be re-elected twice. Would it not be 2023? I thought you had to serve less than half a term to get a chance at two full ones. His term is half-way in 2023. Or is it 3 years or less? ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/883 "2021-01-25T23:49:21Z")
You’re right. From the 22nd Amendment: **Section 1.** No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. ---
**Author:** ![Saintly\_Loser](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saintly_loser/32/4045_2.png) [@Saintly\_Loser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saintly_Loser)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/884 "2021-01-26T14:20:13Z")
> [@Dahnlor](#): > > Nah, Biden won’t resign until after January 21, 2022. That way Kamala can be re-elected twice. I’m aware of this conspiracy theory, and it’s been around almost since Biden took the Democratic nomination, and certainly since he named Harris as his running mate. But I really don’t get it. Who is in charge, and why Kamala Harris? Why is this shadowy and very powerful group plotting to install Kamala Harris as president? I mean, she had a pretty lackluster run for the nomination. I wouldn’t have thought that powerful forces were dedicating themselves to making her president. If they were, wouldn’t they just have made sure she won the primary? And I would have expected the conspiracy theory nuts to think the plot was going to bring back Hillary Clinton, or maybe even Barack Obama (since constitutional term limits would obviously mean nothing to them). I don’t get it. Harris seems like an unlikely beneficiary of the lizard people or the deep state or whoever is behind this one. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020.md?page=43) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020.md?page=45)