# 7 Jan 2021 and beyond - the aftermath of the storming of the Capitol **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 8, 2021, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020 "2021-01-08T10:28:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 45
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/885 "2021-01-26T14:26:07Z")
> [@Saintly\_Loser](#): > > why Kamala Harris? The conspiracy theorists focus on Kamala Harris because, first, she’s a powerful woman, and second, she’s a person of color. Therefore, she’s someone they fear and loath. ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/886 "2021-01-26T14:27:08Z")
My neighbor thinks “The Blacks are going to make all the Whites Slaves” to get their revenge. He actually named Jayz and Beyonce as the ringleaders. I told him he’s a fucking idiot. But he just laughs at me. I’m not exactly sure where Kamala fits in though. ---
**Author:** ![Saintly\_Loser](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saintly_loser/32/4045_2.png) [@Saintly\_Loser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saintly_Loser)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/887 "2021-01-26T14:28:30Z")
> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > My neighbor thinks “The Blacks are going to make all the Whites Slaves” to get their revenge. He actually named Jayz and Beyonce as the ringleaders. Holy crap. Where do you live, on a compound in Idaho? 🤣 I’m glad I live in relatively peaceful and largely (not entirely) conspiracy-theory-free Brooklyn. ---
**Author:** ![Saintly\_Loser](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saintly_loser/32/4045_2.png) [@Saintly\_Loser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saintly_Loser)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/888 "2021-01-26T14:30:00Z")
> [@Pleonast](#): > > The conspiracy theorists focus on Kamala Harris because, first, she’s a powerful woman, and second, she’s a person of color. Therefore, she’s someone they fear and loath. I definitely get that part of it. What I don’t get is exactly who the “they” behind this is. Just Democrats as a whole? A cabal of powerful Democrats led by, say, Nancy Pelosi, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Hillary Clinton? Or lizard people? ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/889 "2021-01-26T14:37:36Z")
> [@Saintly\_Loser](#): > > What I don’t get is exactly who the “they” behind this is. Just Democrats as a whole? A cabal of powerful Democrats led by, say, Nancy Pelosi, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Hillary Clinton? Or lizard people? Oh, they’re totally nonsensical. The right wing projects its own insecurities and crimes and puts no further thought into it. Someone could take one for the team and research what nonsense the conspiracy theorists are saying, but that’s too much like opening a forbidden tome of eldritch horrors. I’m not risking _my_ sanity. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/890 "2021-01-26T15:02:38Z")
No, I’m in Sacramento. He’s sort of an oddball. He’s originally from Czechoslovakia and played professional soccer. I’m pretty sure he’s harmless, just stupid, but I didn’t accept his invitation to come over for a Bloody Mary the other day. Especially when I told him that I don’t drink much anymore because I’m toast after just one drink and his response was “That makes it easier”. I’m just not sure if he’s kidding or not. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/891 "2021-01-26T15:06:56Z")
> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > played professional soccer. Must’ve made too may headers. ---
**Author:** ![Saintly\_Loser](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saintly_loser/32/4045_2.png) [@Saintly\_Loser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saintly_Loser)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/892 "2021-01-26T15:11:50Z")
This (below) will either amuse you (because it’s batshit crazy) or terrify you (because the author isn’t the only one who believes this stuff): [https://www.lenorathompsonwriter.com/beyondnarcissism/nancy-pelosi-arrested-debunking-the-debunkers](https://www.lenorathompsonwriter.com/beyondnarcissism/nancy-pelosi-arrested-debunking-the-debunkers) A few highlights: > I trust President Trump’s ability to chart and plan a perfect strategy. He’s the billionaire. I’m not. I bow to his superior intellect. > I don’t need any more evidence to be convinced that Nancy Pelosi has indeed been arrested, is under 24/7 guard pending her trial by a military tribunal and, until then, is being _forced_ to play the Regular Loathsome Nancy role in the public eye. > … Joe’s phony pre-filmed Inauguration movie released on January 20th. ---
**Author:** ![Dahnlor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dahnlor/32/533_2.png) [@Dahnlor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dahnlor)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/893 "2021-01-26T15:34:32Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > > [@Dahnlor](#): > > > > Nah, Biden won’t resign until after January 21, 2022. That way Kamala can be re-elected twice. > > Would it not be 2023? I thought you had to serve less than half a term to get a chance at two full ones. His term is half-way in 2023. > > Or is it 3 years or less? Oops, Yes I meant 2023. Me not math good. ---
**Author:** ![gnarator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gnarator/32/8266_2.png) [@gnarator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnarator)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/894 "2021-01-26T18:38:27Z")
> [@Saintly\_Loser](#): > > What I don’t get is exactly who the “they” behind this is. Just Democrats as a whole? A cabal of powerful Democrats led by, say, Nancy Pelosi, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Hillary Clinton? Or lizard people? I’ve heard the Clintons, Bill Gates, but usually George Soros. He seems to be the _bete noir_ of the crazy wingnuts. ---
**Author:** ![Saintly\_Loser](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saintly_loser/32/4045_2.png) [@Saintly\_Loser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saintly_Loser)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/895 "2021-01-26T18:43:40Z")
> [@gnarator](#): > > I’ve heard the Clintons, Bill Gates, but usually George Soros. Of course. He’s the perfect villain. He’s ultra-rich, and made his money in mysterious ways beyond the comprehension of ordinary mortals like you and me. He is, of course, Jewish and “cosmopolitan,” and engaged in “international finance,” scary terms (often code for Jewish). And he’s not _really_ an American.\* \*He is, of course. He was naturalized decades ago. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/896 "2021-01-26T18:53:33Z")
> [@Pleonast](#): > > > [@Saintly\_Loser](#): > > > > why Kamala Harris? > > The conspiracy theorists focus on Kamala Harris because, first, she’s a powerful woman, and second, she’s a person of color. Therefore, she’s someone they fear and loath. I’m surprised we’re not hearing that Harris was born in India and forged her birth certificate. Has anyone seen the long form? I expect to soon hear that Trump already has top investigators on the case, and you wouldn’t believe what they’re finding! It’s a disgrace! Very sad. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/897 "2021-01-26T19:13:58Z")
my favorite sentence in that whole long screed: > [@Lenora Thompson](#): > > The case for Pelosi being under arrest seems very compelling to me. Lady, you have the perception and critical thinking skills of a snail. Worse than a snail, even. I bet there are any number of things that seem very compelling to you because you are, quite obviously, an idiot. ---
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/898 "2021-01-26T19:40:27Z")
[John C. Eastman](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_C._Eastman#Kamala_Harris_citizenship_op-ed), has made a similar claim. Since it depends on the fact that a person born in the US to parents who are not permanent residents and that fact is not true, that case hasn’t made much of a dent beyond people who need it to be true. ---
**Author:** ![Saintly\_Loser](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saintly_loser/32/4045_2.png) [@Saintly\_Loser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saintly_Loser)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/899 "2021-01-26T19:45:21Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > I’m surprised we’re not hearing that Harris was born in India and forged her birth certificate. Has anyone seen the long form? I expect to soon hear that Trump already has top investigators on the case, and you wouldn’t believe what they’re finding! There was an attempt to resurrect the birther nonsense about Harris. It never got any traction, even, as far as I can tell, among the MAGA nuts. > **[Some Questions for Kamala Harris About Eligibility](https://www.newsweek.com/some-questions-kamala-harris-about-eligibility-opinion-1524483)** > > There are significant questions surrounding Kamala Harris' constitutional eligibility for the second-highest office in the land. ETA: Sorry, **74westy** beat me to it. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/900 "2021-01-26T19:47:05Z")
> [@Saintly\_Loser](#): > > A cabal of powerful Democrats led by, say, Nancy Pelosi, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Hillary Clinton? Or lizard people? I thought they all were lizard people? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/901 "2021-01-26T19:55:25Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > I thought they all were lizard people? That’s just what the Mole-men _want_ you to believe! It’s wheels within wheels, man! ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/902 "2021-01-26T20:44:51Z")
Crab people! Crab people! ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/903 "2021-01-26T21:32:54Z")
> [@Saintly\_Loser](#): > > And I would have expected the conspiracy theory nuts to think the plot was going to bring back Hillary Clinton, or maybe even Barack Obama (since constitutional term limits would obviously mean nothing to them). I know one person who believes Hillary and Obama are running it all ---
**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/904 "2021-01-26T22:48:12Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Crab people! Crab people! Taste like crab. Walk like people… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020.md?page=44) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020.md?page=46)