# 7 Jan 2021 and beyond - the aftermath of the storming of the Capitol **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 8, 2021, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020 "2021-01-08T10:28:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 64
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2021, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1266 "2021-02-27T21:23:06Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > It’s not the only step. Biden and the Dems must succeed in governing, and I think that means doing away with the filibuster and **going it alone** , all over the crying objections of Mitt Romney and Susan Collins (and Joe Munchkin while we’re at it). Dems must out-compete Republicans at the state level. My bold. I agree completely. This Republican BS that says, “Joe said he would be bipartisan and work for unity but he won’t give in and knuckle under to our demands _wah-wah-wah_” makes me gag. To them bipartisan means he does it our way and we don’t give up anything. The Democrats have got to go it alone because time is short. Not that any amount of time would move these obstructionist hypocrites. The majority is slim, but for God’s sake _use it!_ The Dems may not get another chance. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2021, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1267 "2021-02-27T22:16:09Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > The majority is slim, but for God’s sake _use it!_ The Pubs certainly used their slim majority to their advantage. Chief among their ‘wins’ were 3 SCOTUS justices. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2021, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1268 "2021-02-27T23:32:51Z")
Good news, everyone! > **[AP sources: Feds pinpoint suspect in officer's riot death](https://apnews.com/article/capitol-siege-riots-1904bab4e0c6b035509bcf8db70a4c3f)** > > WASHINGTON (AP) — Federal investigators probing the death of a U.S. Capitol Police officer killed in the Jan... ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2021, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1269 "2021-02-28T01:50:39Z")
He _might_ be a cat. You never know. > ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2021, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1270 "2021-02-28T02:08:09Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > …Anyone with a hand in the planning or the violence, and any supporters of any organizations needs to be found, properly convicted, and removed from society UFN… Google has failed me. What does “UFN” mean? > [@asahi](#): > > I think this is typical white conservative hypocrisy. The ones who scream “Pull your pants up” and advocate for police roughhousing of minority suspects are the ones who then sit before a judge and say _"This was all just a big mistake. I don’t know how I got here. I’m really just like anyone else. Come on, your honor. Let me go. Please. Hey, come on, I’m white._ " Bingo. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2021, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1271 "2021-02-28T02:14:10Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Google has failed me. What does “UFN” mean? Until Further Notice, presumably. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2021, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1272 "2021-02-28T06:08:32Z")
> [@Morgyn](#): > > He _might_ be a cat. You never know. On the Internet, nobody knows if you’re a dog. Everybody knows if you’re a cat. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2021, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1273 "2021-02-28T16:42:21Z")
Me-OW! ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2021, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1274 "2021-02-28T16:45:27Z")
> [@Morgyn](#): > > He _might_ be a cat. You never know. I think he was. That worried look on the cat’s face came when he realised his human filter wasn’t working. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2021, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1275 "2021-02-28T20:09:32Z")
Here’s some related aftermath: > **[Supreme Court could put new limits on voting rights lawsuits](https://apnews.com/article/race-and-ethnicity-arizona-discrimination-lawsuits-voting-rights-c9ab7a4b332667f2858936f5cc133748)** > > WASHINGTON (AP) — Eight years after carving the heart out of a landmark voting rights law , the Supreme Court is looking at putting new limits on efforts to combat racial discrimination in voting... ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2021, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1276 "2021-03-01T13:41:18Z")
The conservative court has had a LOT to do with the radicalization of the Republican party. “Money is speech.” lulz ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2021, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1277 "2021-03-02T00:38:15Z")
One dollar one vote. It’s right there in the Constitution. ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2021, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1278 "2021-03-02T16:38:30Z")
Whew, Christopher Wray just got his ass scorched by Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse. Holy cow. Delicious to see it. ---
**Author:** ![Si\_Amigo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/si_amigo/32/2877_2.png) [@Si\_Amigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Si_Amigo)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2021, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1279 "2021-03-02T16:55:30Z")
Do you have a link? From what I’ve read Wray clearly denied that leftist were involved in the January 6th insurrection. So what are you talking about? ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2021, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1280 "2021-03-02T17:34:53Z")
I haven’t seen a link to the whole thing yet, but here’s a portion. > ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2021, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1281 "2021-03-03T17:59:38Z")
> **[Capitol Hill security increased and House session canceled amid warnings...](https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/03/politics/capitol-hill-security-latest/index.html)** > > US officials on Wednesday alerted lawmakers to a potential threat against the US Capitol on March 4, for which security has been enhanced as a precaution, less than two months after the Capitol complex was stormed and lawmakers' lives were threatened... > **[DC National Guard commander says 'unusual' Pentagon restrictions slowed...](https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/03/politics/us-capitol-riot-hearing-dhs-fbi-pentagon/index.html)** > > The commanding general of the Washington, DC, National Guard testified Wednesday that he did not need authorization from Pentagon leaders before deploying troops in response to protests at the nation's capital last summer but that changed in the days... ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2021, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1282 "2021-03-03T20:15:07Z")
If that wasn’t bad enough, among those advising delay was one [Gen. Charles Flynn](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/national-security-officials-testify-about-jan-6-attack-capitol-joint-n1259434). If that name sounds familiar, his brother is Michael Flynn. So, in short, the rules were changed to make it harder to stop a coup that happened to start the next day. What an amazing coincidence. ---
**Author:** ![F.U.Shakespeare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aca169/32.png) [@F.U.Shakespeare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.U.Shakespeare)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2021, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1283 "2021-03-04T02:22:07Z")
From **fiveyearlurker** ’s link: "…Flynn advised at one point during the afternoon that deploying troops would not be “good optics.” [D.C. National Guard chief: Pentagon took 3 hours to greenlight troops during Capitol assault (nbcnews.com)](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/national-security-officials-testify-about-jan-6-attack-capitol-joint-n1259434) [Military show of force at Lincoln Memorial draws outrage online - MarketWatch](https://www.marketwatch.com/story/military-show-of-force-at-lincoln-memorial-draws-outrage-online-2020-06-02) I guess not all optics are created equal. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2021, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1284 "2021-03-04T02:47:37Z")
> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > I haven’t seen a link to the whole thing yet, but here’s a portion. > > [https://twitter.com/SenWhitehouse/status/1366802268478181380?ref\_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^tweet](https://twitter.com/SenWhitehouse/status/1366802268478181380?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet) Here is a longer clip of the exchange - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3z81sXjbm6U](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3z81sXjbm6U) ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2021, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1285 "2021-03-04T16:49:07Z")
Wonder if he gets government cheese with that whine? > **[‘It’s Not Fair!’: Rioter Who Posed in Pelosi’s Office Loses It in Court](https://www.thedailybeast.com/richard-biggo-barnett-who-posed-at-pelosis-desk-during-capitol-riot-has-meltdown-during-court-hearing)** > > “This has been a bunch of crap,” Richard Barnett screamed on Thursday, as he complained that other Capitol rioters have been released from jail. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020.md?page=63) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020.md?page=65)