# 7 Jan 2021 and beyond - the aftermath of the storming of the Capitol **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 8, 2021, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020 "2021-01-08T10:28:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 66
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2021, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1306 "2021-03-06T20:29:06Z")
_From Walmart to Walden’s Pond, The Journey of MAGA_, copyright 2022, University Press. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2021, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1307 "2021-03-07T04:49:36Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Another whiner. > > [Alleged Capitol rioter begs judge to send him home to parents](https://nypost.com/2021/03/06/capitol-rioter-begs-judge-to-send-him-home-to-parents/) Boo fucking hoo. Keep him locked up until his trial. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2021, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1308 "2021-03-08T21:10:28Z")
Jacob Chansley has seen the muffin man. > **['QAnon Shaman' says he's innocent because he stopped Capitol attackers from...](https://www.rawstory.com/qanon-shaman-jacob-chansley/)** > > Jacob Chansley, who is also known as "the QAnon Shaman," argued this week that he is innocent of the charges against him because he stopped insurrectionists from stealing muffins at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6.Chansley made the remarks during an... ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2021, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1309 "2021-03-08T21:18:47Z")
WoN’t AnYoNe ThInK oF tHe MuFfInS? ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2021, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1310 "2021-03-08T21:21:40Z")
‘I didn’t try to stop them from beating people to death, but I’m innocent because I stopped them from eating muffins!’ ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2021, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1311 "2021-03-09T01:26:39Z")
" **Jacob Chansley** , who became known as the so-called “QAnon Shaman” after being seen at the Capitol in a horned and coyote-fur headdress and face paint, was denied pre-trial release on Monday after a federal judge berated his lawyer for squandering an opportunity to communicate with his client before trial on a “media publicity stunt” [interview](https://lawandcrime.com/u-s-capitol-siege/judge-accuses-jacob-qanon-shaman-chansleys-counsel-of-possible-subterfuge-after-tv-debut-on-60-minutes-backfires/) with _60 Minutes+_ , which wound up harming their defense. “Such media appearances are undoubtedly conducive to defense counsel’s fame. But they are not at all conducive to an argument that the only way defense counsel could privately communicate with his client is if defendant were temporarily released,” Senior Judge **Royce Lamberth** , a **Ronald Reagan** appointee, wrote in a scathing 32-page opinion. “Given defense counsel’s decision to use what could have been a confidential videoconference on a media publicity stunt, that argument is so frivolous as to insult the court’s intelligence.” > **[Jacob ‘QAnon Shaman’ Chansley Kept Behind Bars as Reagan-Appointed Judge...](https://lawandcrime.com/u-s-capitol-siege/jacob-qanon-shaman-chansley-kept-behind-bars-as-reagan-appointed-judge-hammers-his-lawyer-for-publicity-stunt-interview-on-60-minutes/?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark)** > > Jacob "QAnon Shaman" Chansley must stay behind bars before trial, a federal judge ruled, berating the rioter's lawyer for his client's "media publicity stunt" interview with 60 Minutes+. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2021, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1312 "2021-03-09T02:04:25Z")
Right on. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2021, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1313 "2021-03-09T02:07:58Z")
If the judge tells a lawyer he is insulting the intelligence of the court, is that bad? Asking for a friend, need answer _fast_. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2021, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1314 "2021-03-09T02:17:39Z")
It’s a qanon lawyer. Certainly his plan is to call intelligence fake, and bingo! Bob’s yer uncle. ---
**Author:** ![Deeg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deeg/32/2955_2.png) [@Deeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deeg)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2021, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1315 "2021-03-09T05:33:49Z")
A Reagan appointee? That’s impressive. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2021, 9:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1316 "2021-03-09T09:43:50Z")
“Counsel, what you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.” ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2021, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1317 "2021-03-09T12:50:46Z")
“There’s a reason it’s not called ‘IQAnon.’” ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2021, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1318 "2021-03-09T13:50:31Z")
That might not be a bad name actually. Alcoholics Anonymous is all about helping people break their connection to alcohol. Besides the technical definition, “IQ” is a common colloquialism for “smartness” So IQ Anonymous would be for folks wanting to break away from their smartness. However much they may have now, IQAnon is dedicated to the idea that less is better. Seems about right. ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2021, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1319 "2021-03-09T15:17:20Z")
I’ve read a few things about the reasons/excuses for the insufficient security, but has anyone seen any info regarding the few capitol police who appeared to have moved barriers aside or otherwise been inappropriately “friendly” towards the insurrectionists? ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2021, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1320 "2021-03-09T15:36:44Z")
just that some have been suspended and they are looking at the tapes. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2021, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1321 "2021-03-11T15:49:35Z")
Cudd fears being chewed in DC. > **[Texas Florist Who Admitted to Being in Pelosi's Office Wants Case Moved from...](https://lawandcrime.com/u-s-capitol-siege/texas-florist-who-admitted-to-being-in-pelosis-office-wants-case-moved-from-d-c-because-of-cancel-culture/)** > > Jenny Cudd wants a change of venue, asserting she cannot get a fair trial in the liberal-heavy Washington, D.C. because of "cancel culture" | Law & Crime ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2021, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1322 "2021-03-11T16:57:04Z")
Jeez, the attorney can’t even spell “venue”. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2021, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1323 "2021-03-11T17:09:36Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Cudd fears being chewed in DC. The severance motion is not frivolous. The venue motion certainly is. If a judge accepted that argument (DC Jurors are liberal democrats and a bunch of “cancel culture” nonsense), then none of the January 6 defendants could be tried in the district where they allegedly committed their crimes. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2021, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1324 "2021-03-11T17:11:25Z")
> [@squeegee](#): > > Jeez, the attorney can’t even spell “venue”. - The spelling is correct. > **[Definition of VENIRE](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/venire)** > > an entire panel from which a jury is drawn… See the full definition ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2021, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1325 "2021-03-11T17:54:16Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > The spelling is correct Okay, thanks. I googled and got an Italian translation “to come”. Should have scrolled the results. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020.md?page=65) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020.md?page=67)