# 7 Jan 2021 and beyond - the aftermath of the storming of the Capitol **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 8, 2021, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020 "2021-01-08T10:28:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 68
**Author:** ![Si\_Amigo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/si_amigo/32/2877_2.png) [@Si\_Amigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Si_Amigo)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2021, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1346 "2021-03-12T22:29:18Z")
Remember people, this is a thread about Crime AND Pun-isment. Enough of this all beef baloney! ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2021, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1347 "2021-03-13T00:29:07Z")
And now a word from our sponsor, the National Livestock and Beef Board: “Beef. It’s What’s For Dinner.” /strains of _Hoe Down_ ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2021, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1348 "2021-03-13T00:36:19Z")
🎶 Whan the sun hits your eye like a pan-seared ribeye, that’s amore…🎶 ---
**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2021, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1349 "2021-03-13T01:50:23Z")
[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/dO5KoBHto80/hqdefault.jpg "Fear - Beef Bologna") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dO5KoBHto80) It’s confrontation rock. Don’t expect anything enlightening besides the title connection. In other news, apparently the DOJ plans to charge at least 100 more fools. Potentially the founder of Oath Keepers is included. \ > **[DOJ Says At Least 100 More People Could Be Charged Over Capitol Attack](https://www.npr.org/2021/03/12/976507746/doj-says-at-least-100-more-people-could-be-charged-over-capitol-attack)** > > The Justice Department says the investigation into the Capitol insurrection will likely be one of the largest in American history. ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2021, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1350 "2021-03-13T03:48:24Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > Heiffer crying out loud, let them have their fun. It behooves us to keep our morale up. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2021, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1351 "2021-03-13T03:55:35Z")
> [@penultima\_thule](#): > > Getting maced, teargassed or having a gap in their employment resume might be the least of your worries. As said Stephen Colbert [S6 E407](https://www.facebook.com/watch/?ref=search&v=399108431347361&external_log_id=8ac4a91a-040c-43e5-81f8-8e9bac66c81f&q=the%20late%20show%20with%20stephen%20colbert) (from 7:00) “It’s a revolution and you are complaining that they maced you? In a real revolution, when you lose they chop your fucking head off”. Stuff like this will always remind me a great but short-lived TV series called _Outsourced_ (based on the movie of the same name). An American is trying to run a call-center in India and at one point shows the workers footage of an American “riot” at a Black Friday sale. They were unimpressed. One comments: _As riots go this is rather tame. I see no tear gas, no batons, no one set on fire. I could riot circles around those people._ ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2021, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1352 "2021-03-13T12:18:45Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Stuff like this will always remind me a great but short-lived TV series called _Outsourced_ (based on the movie of the same name). An American is trying to run a call-center in India and at one point shows the workers footage of an American “riot” at a Black Friday sale. They were unimpressed. One comments: > > _As riots go this is rather tame. I see no tear gas, no batons, no one set on fire. I could riot circles around those people._- I LOVED that show! I guess you and I were the only two people in the world who watched it. The [movie](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0425326/) in 2006 spun off into the [TV series](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1593756/) in 2010 (one 22-episode season). [/aside] ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2021, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1353 "2021-03-13T16:35:06Z")
> [@scabpicker](#): > > …In other news, apparently the DOJ plans to charge at least 100 more fools. Potentially the founder of Oath Keepers is included. \ > > [Capitol Riot Investigation Likely To Grow With More Charges : NPR](https://www.npr.org/2021/03/12/976507746/doj-says-at-least-100-more-people-could-be-charged-over-capitol-attack) :: steeples fingers :: Excellent. ---
**Author:** ![pirviii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pirviii/32/3233_2.png) [@pirviii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pirviii)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2021, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1354 "2021-03-14T02:01:27Z")
I watched it too, but after a half dozen episodes it grew kind of stale. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2021, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1355 "2021-03-14T03:44:58Z")
I’m easy. Except when I’m not. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2021, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1356 "2021-03-14T14:41:54Z")
Thank you for my weekend binge, started at the movie, then the series. Should finish it up today. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2021, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1357 "2021-03-15T17:30:51Z")
They arrested the ones involved in the assault and death of Officer Sicknick. > **[BREAKING: Morgantown West Virginia sandwich operator charged with deploying...](https://www.wvnews.com/news/wvnews/breaking-morgantown-west-virginia-sandwich-operator-charged-with-deploying-chemical-spray-against-officer-sicknick-2/article_5beef6fa-3d15-59bd-bcc0-ea9f696618b3.html)** > > MORGANTOWN, W.Va. (WV News) — The operator of Morgantown’s Sandwich University restaurant, as well as a Pennsylvania man, have been accused of assaulting three Capitol Police officers, including Capitol Police ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2021, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1358 "2021-03-15T18:04:44Z")
I know it’s a trivial point, particularly in this context, but…“sandwich operator”? ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2021, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1359 "2021-03-15T18:09:32Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > “sandwich operator”? Hey, we’ve all seen what happens when just any old Joe picks up a sandwich with no formal training. I could tell you tales, like the Night of the Dark Grey Poupon… turns out everyone involved had skipped the apprenticeship phase of their classes. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2021, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1360 "2021-03-15T18:14:14Z")
Sounds like they can’t prove causation. No charges relating to the death itself. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2021, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1361 "2021-03-15T19:20:30Z")
Yet. Get those two under some serious interrogation and we’ll see who flips on who. I seriously doubt they will be able to make a murder charge stick, but manslaughter is still a very real possibility. I think the chance of spending more than a few years in a Federal prison will prove sufficient to loosen some resolve. ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2021, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1362 "2021-03-15T19:20:44Z")
Keep your rye comments to yourself! ---
**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2021, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1363 "2021-03-15T20:34:25Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > Sounds like they can’t prove causation. No charges relating to the death itself. The Washington Post says the autopsy results aren’t available yet, for whatever reason: > Questions remain about whether anyone will be held criminally responsible in Sicknick’s death. Autopsy results for Sicknick were still pending as of Monday, according to a spokeswoman for the deputy mayor of public safety in D.C. Without a cause of death, his case has not been established as a homicide, although charging papers allege that evidence of an assault on Sicknick is clear on video. > [The Washington Post](https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/legal-issues/two-arrested-in-assault-on-police-officer-brian-d-sicknick-who-died-after-jan-6-capitol-riot/2021/03/15/80261550-84ff-11eb-bfdf-4d36dab83a6d_story.html) ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2021, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1364 "2021-03-15T21:58:49Z")
Ron Johnson (R)-acist, Wisconsin, has a “thought” about the insurrectionist cop killers- They would never break the law! The only thing missing is the preface “I’m not a racist, but…” [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/6Yf_TWXTDlM/maxresdefault.jpg "Sen. Ron Johnson Called Rioters At Capitol ‘People Who Love This Country’ | TODAY") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Yf_TWXTDlM) ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2021, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1365 "2021-03-15T22:16:21Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Yet. Get those two under some serious interrogation and we’ll see who flips on who. They may never be able to show cause of death, as the post from **Naita** shows. Even if one flips and puts both of them there, with intent to assault cops with the chemical spray, they still have to prouve that the spray caused the death. Unless the prosecutors can prove causation, beyond a reasonable doubt, they’ve only got serious assault and conspiracy charges. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020.md?page=67) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020.md?page=69)