# 7 Jan 2021 and beyond - the aftermath of the storming of the Capitol **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 8, 2021, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020 "2021-01-08T10:28:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 70
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2021, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1386 "2021-03-19T17:54:24Z")
It’s been tried, but it’s been awhile: > **[In re Neagle](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_re_Neagle)** > > Pages for logged out editors learn more > > In re Neagle, 135 U.S. 1 (1890), is a United States Supreme Court decision holding that federal officers are immune from State prosecution when acting within the scope of their federal authority. > Deputy U.S. Marshal David Neagle (1847–1925) was appointed by the United States Attorney General to serve as Justice Stephen J. Field's bodyguard while Field rode circuit in California. On August 14, 1889, David S. Terry approached Field inside the Lathr... ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2021, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1387 "2021-03-21T11:44:18Z")
Wasn’t Trump supposed be inaugurated on March 20 for “reasons”? I may have missed it… Brian ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2021, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1388 "2021-03-21T11:45:18Z")
> [@N9IWP](#): > > Wasn’t Trump supposed be inaugurated on March 20 for “reasons”? I may have missed it… > > Brian - He was. He takes over in two weeks. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2021, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1389 "2021-03-21T12:19:50Z")
April 1st is the date, no fooling around this time! ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2021, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1390 "2021-03-21T19:43:57Z")
Or June 32nd for _sure!_ ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1391 "2021-03-22T19:32:38Z")
> **[Analysis | We now have the first seditious-conspiracy charges from Jan. 6....](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/03/22/sedition-charges-capitol/)** > > The seditious conspiracy charges against members and associates of the Oath Keepers are the first such charges in more than a decade. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1392 "2021-03-22T20:28:26Z")
And yet still no charge for Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1393 "2021-03-22T20:46:30Z")
And nothing about R congresspeople who may have assisted the rioters, nor about Wray’s stand-down order to the National Guard. I haven’t tracked all the details, but ISTR lots of anecdotal and circumstantial evidence that what happened Jan. 6 wasn’t spontaneous and had backing from folks high in the GOP and the 45 administration. If those people escape scrutiny – or, evidence allowing, charges – it will be a bigger black mark on our democracy than Jan. 6 itself. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1394 "2021-03-22T20:55:08Z")
Sidney Powell has moved to [dismiss](https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/20519858/3-22-21-sidney-powell-defending-the-republic-motion-to-dismiss-dominion.pdf) the lawsuits against her by Dominion, on the grounds that no reasonable person would have believed that it was factual. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1395 "2021-03-22T21:13:05Z")
So she’s a comedian? A satirist? Millions of Americans believed her claims. Of course, that alone disqualifies them from being considered “reasonable.” ---
**Author:** ![Si\_Amigo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/si_amigo/32/2877_2.png) [@Si\_Amigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Si_Amigo)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1396 "2021-03-22T21:25:25Z")
She was appealing to people who were beyond reason. That was her whole schlick, to out crazy the other crazies. Now she thinks magic words will save her. NO. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1397 "2021-03-23T14:28:58Z")
Ohio: > **[A look at Ohioans facing charges in the US Capitol siege](https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-capitol-siege-columbus-media-social-media-23fd1da75da698907837ad2993ed4dd7)** > > COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) — More than 300 supporters of former President Donald Trump have been charged in the storming of the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, including members of far-right extremist groups. At... ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1398 "2021-03-23T15:15:56Z")
> **[Ex-Trump lawyer Sidney Powell argues ‘no reasonable person’ would believe her...](https://www.cleveland.com/nation/2021/03/ex-trump-lawyer-sidney-powell-argues-no-reasonable-person-would-believe-her-conspiracy-theories.html)** > > Right-wing lawyer Sidney Powell makes the arguments in an effort to have a court dismiss a lawsuit against her from Dominion Voting Systems. WASHINGTON, D.C. — _A former lawyer for Donald Trump who made several false claims of voter fraud in regard to the 2020 presidential election is now arguing that “no reasonable person” would have believed her conspiracy theories._ _Lawyers for Sidney Powell make the argument [in a court filing](https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/20519858-3-22-21-sidney-powell-defending-the-republic-motion-to-dismiss-dominion) in hopes of getting a $1.3 billion defamation lawsuit filed against her by Dominion Voting Systems dismissed, [CNN reports](https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/22/politics/sidney-powell-dominion-lawsuit-election-fraud/index.html). Dominion filed the lawsuit in January. “Even [assuming] that each of the statements alleged in the Complaint could be proved true or false, no reasonable person would conclude that the statements were truly statements of fact,” the filing says, [according to Business Insider](https://www.businessinsider.com/sidney-powell-dominion-defamation-lawsuit-take-seriously-2021-3)._ Yeah. 😲 😱 🤪 🤥 🤥 🤥 🤥 🤥 ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1399 "2021-03-23T15:39:44Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > Sidney Powell has moved to [dismiss](https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/20519858/3-22-21-sidney-powell-defending-the-republic-motion-to-dismiss-dominion.pdf) the lawsuits against her by Dominion, on the grounds that no reasonable person would have believed that it was factual. She has the little problem that she was filing court cases based on that theory. In defending herself from the Dominion defamation case, she’s admitted to breaching the code of conduct for lawyers, which is that you don’t file frivolous or misleading actions with a court. She’s providing evidence against herself in the discipline motions which have been filed against her. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1400 "2021-03-23T15:42:11Z")
sounds to me like she made dominion’s case for them. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1401 "2021-03-23T16:00:02Z")
‘Donald believed me, therefore I’m correct! No reasonable person!’ ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1402 "2021-03-23T16:12:54Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > In defending herself from the Dominion defamation case, she’s admitted to breaching the code of conduct for lawyers, which is that you don’t file frivolous or misleading actions with a court. My first thought when I saw her claim was that she should immediately lose the right to practice law. Whether or not it becomes a permanent disbarment would depend on her explanations. Of course the first question anyone should ask her is if nobody would believe her claims, why did she file the cases? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1403 "2021-03-23T16:23:26Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Ohio: > [A look at Ohioans facing charges in the US Capitol siege](https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-capitol-siege-columbus-media-social-media-23fd1da75da698907837ad2993ed4dd7) As a Buckeye born and raised, I am appalled but not especially surprised. ---
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1404 "2021-03-23T16:32:43Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > In defending herself from the Dominion defamation case, she’s admitted to breaching the code of conduct for lawyers, which is that you don’t file frivolous or misleading actions with a court. Returning to the defamation case, how does it help to admit that she was lying about that all along? Sounds almost malicious to me. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1405 "2021-03-23T17:05:34Z")
Maybe disbarment is preferable to a multi-billion dollar payout? That’s assuming that that defense works, which I would doubt. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020.md?page=69) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020.md?page=71)