# 7 Jan 2021 and beyond - the aftermath of the storming of the Capitol

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [January 8, 2021, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020 "2021-01-08T10:28:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2021, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1546 "2021-04-20T08:05:44Z")

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But he WAS beaten and pepper sprayed during the insurrection, yes?

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2021, 8:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1547 "2021-04-20T08:59:31Z")

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Now to talk about the 140 other officers injured during the riot…

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2021, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1548 "2021-04-20T13:06:33Z")

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All the Reichwingers are jumping for joy on my Facebook feed about the Capitol Police officer dying of natural causes. It’s like it makes it fine to bear-spray and beat people and if it can’t be proven that they died form that alone, all’s fine.

These people are not patriots, they do not love the US. They’re fascist racists who posed the greatest threat to democracy in the nation’s history. They deserve every charge that can be filed and the maximum sentence when convicted.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2021, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1549 "2021-04-20T14:15:17Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> It’s like it makes it fine to bear-spray and beat people and if it can’t be proven that they died form that alone, all’s fine.

Which come to think of it, beating and spraying with irritants is what they already think it’s OK do to, you know, the kind of people who deserve it.

But really, that’s the way Reichwingers (love the expression) will look at things. Remember, they worship aggressive strength and power. So to them, if “merely” being rattled and beaten made his weak system collapse that’s just the fault of that vulnerability: a true strong, powerful hero should have easily brushed it off.

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**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2021, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1550 "2021-04-20T15:17:04Z")

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According to your article, he **was** sprayed with the chemical irritant.

And even if the spray and the assault did _not_ directly cause his death, the ME said the stress caused by them was probably a contributing factor. In some jurisdictions, that’s cause for indicting under Murder in the Third.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2021, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1551 "2021-04-20T16:14:56Z")

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> [@CaptMurdock](#):
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> **probably** a contributing factor.

It is my understanding that you can’t and shouldn’t convict on “probably”.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2021, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1552 "2021-04-20T16:56:02Z")

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In the court of public opinion, however, and among those who profess to be avid supporters of the men and women serving on the Thin Blue Line…

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1553 "2021-04-23T13:15:45Z")

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> **[Under-the-radar court case helps piece together cop dragging during Capitol...](https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/23/politics/capitol-riot-cop-dragging/index.html)**
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> The Justice Department has built out one of its most gripping and complex investigations to date from the January 6 insurrection in a court case which has gotten far less attention than others about at least five rioters who dragged and beat police...

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1554 "2021-04-23T15:06:51Z")

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An Illustrated Tale, Told in Six Acts:

[![Imgur](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51133426691_f4acfa5800_b.jpg "Middleton") ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/68782016@N08/51133426691/)

[![Imgur](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51133426756_849e470d71_b.jpg "Middleton") ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/68782016@N08/51133426756/)

[![Imgur](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51132755992_55c1c75527_b.jpg "Middleton") ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/68782016@N08/51132755992/)

[![Imgur](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51134543320_5f34563164_b.jpg "Middleton") ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/68782016@N08/51134543320/)

[![Imgur](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51134543375_155f50c448_b.jpg "Middleton") ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/68782016@N08/51134543375/)

[![Imgur](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51134204249_6df46e2bc0_b.jpg "Middleton") ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/68782016@N08/51134204249/)

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**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1555 "2021-04-23T15:24:34Z")

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[A case study in TALKING TO A BUMBLE MATCH AND HANGING YOURSELF with your own words](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/capitol-riot-suspect-after-bumble-match-alerts-feds/ar-BB1fYsI3)  
[https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/capitol-riot-suspect-after-bumble-match-alerts-feds/ar-BB1fYsI3](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/capitol-riot-suspect-after-bumble-match-alerts-feds/ar-BB1fYsI3)

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1556 "2021-04-23T15:40:43Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> An Illustrated Tale, Told in Six Acts:

“The family that assaults together stays together?”

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1557 "2021-04-23T15:42:11Z")

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(There are 6 pictures)

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1558 "2021-04-23T16:39:29Z")

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Should any of us be surprised that Middleton guy attended Liberty University (a deliberately misleading business name if ever there was one)? He’s definitely been an anti-American totalitarian in training from the age of 18 and most probably since he was a toddler.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2021, 10:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1559 "2021-04-24T10:54:25Z")

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She did not swipe alt-right.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2021, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1560 "2021-04-25T18:44:57Z")

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^ Well played.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2021, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1561 "2021-04-26T23:46:18Z")

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Here some aftermath; BAM!

> **[Homeland Security launches review of extremism within agency](https://apnews.com/article/politics-government-and-politics-59e617bd599b57491cd3bf5d20f746e4)**
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> WASHINGTON (AP) — The Department of Homeland Security on Monday announced an internal review to assess the threat of violent extremism from within the agency, part of a broader administration focus on domestic threats following the Jan...

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2021, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1562 "2021-04-28T20:47:10Z")

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Feds release videos:

> **[Feds release videos of Jan. 6 riot showing police assault](https://apnews.com/article/riots-capitol-siege-government-and-politics-politics-7e74ab570cd4849748e718df4fc35638)**
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> WASHINGTON (AP) — Federal authorities released videos Wednesday showing Capitol Police Officer Brian Sicknick, who died after defending the U...

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2021, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1563 "2021-04-28T21:35:42Z")

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[Man linked to Capitol riot convicted of threats to lawmakers | AP News](https://apnews.com/article/capitol-siege-new-york-media-social-media-brooklyn-c17e2e562e63b81f7a3d93a11504bb75#:~:text=NEW%20YORK%20(AP)%20%E2%80%94%20A,in%20federal%20court%20in%20Brooklyn).

> A social media agitator was convicted Wednesday on federal charges of threatening to kill members of Congress in a verdict that rejected his claims it was harmless rhetoric.
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> A jury found Brendan Hunt guilty at the close of a weeklong trial in federal court in Brooklyn.
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> Hunt, 37, did not deny creating a series of menacing-sounding posts. But he testified that they were often put together while impaired from smoking pot with a bong and drinking beer, and never thought they would be taken seriously.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2021, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1564 "2021-04-29T01:23:20Z")

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If you shoot at the King you’d better not miss. Words to live (and die) by.

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2021, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1565 "2021-04-29T13:24:57Z")

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What a waste of a buzz, if all that’s true. It’s depressing to think that that’s the kind of shit that consumes some people when they’re high.

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