# 7 Jan 2021 and beyond - the aftermath of the storming of the Capitol

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [January 8, 2021, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020 "2021-01-08T10:28:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2021, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1766 "2021-06-07T19:20:00Z")

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Darn tootin’.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2021, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1767 "2021-06-08T13:42:08Z")

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It’s like writing a report on the sinking of the _Titanic_ and not mentioning the iceberg:

> **[Senate report reveals new details about security failures ahead of January 6...](https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/08/politics/us-capitol-riot-senate-report/index.html)**
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> The US Capitol Police's main intelligence unit "was aware of the potential for violence" beforehand, the report says

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2021, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1768 "2021-06-10T14:55:00Z")

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Also worth a look:

> **[This Republican nails why her party can't just move on from January 6 | CNN...](https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/09/politics/barbara-comstock-republicans-trump-january-6/index.html)**
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> Everywhere you look within the Republican Party these days there is an effort to forget -- and minimize -- what happened at the US Capitol on January 6.

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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2021, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1769 "2021-06-11T14:02:04Z")

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> [@dtilque](#):
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> For people outside Oregon, this was a case where an Oregon legislator opened a door to let protestors into the Oregon Capitol. There’s been a new developement. Someone found a video of the legislator, Mike Nearman, giving explicit (albeit ostensibly hypothetical) instructions on how he would do this. Posted just a few days before the incident. A smoking gun, no, a smoking howitzer.

Last night the Oregon house voted to expel Nearman, the first time this has ever happened in Oregon. The vote was unanimous (with the exception of Nearman).

Most of the Republicans in the Oregon House are right-wing loons, so I don’t want to give them too much credit, but it’s a relief they managed to briefly find a spine.

> **[Oregon House expels state Rep. Mike Nearman, plotter of state Capitol incursion](https://www.opb.org/article/2021/06/10/oregon-house-of-representatives-vote-mike-nearman-expulsion-state-capitol-incursion/)**
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> Nearman refused to resign in the face of overwhelming evidence he would be ejected from the Legislature. The four-term Republican lawmaker becomes the first person ever expelled from the Oregon House.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2021, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1770 "2021-06-11T14:46:36Z")

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Glad to see the well-deserved and near-unanimous vote. Just hope he doesn’t turn around and get reelected by his district.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2021, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1771 "2021-06-11T15:02:06Z")

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He can always be expelled again. It’s not like the crime he committed will disappear.

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**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2021, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1772 "2021-06-11T15:03:42Z")

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Note that what his R colleagues appear to be upset about is that he lied about there being more _evidence_ against him, not that he lied about it being a premeditated act:

> “About five weeks ago, as one of the closest colleagues he has in the Capitol, I asked ‘is there ANY further video or other evidence?’” [Post wrote](https://www.billpost.com/blog/house-republicans-call-for-rep-mike-nearman-resignation-explained) on his personal website. “He said ‘no.’ That is the crux of the problem: he lied. To me personally and to the Republican caucus.”  
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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2021, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1773 "2021-06-11T21:15:27Z")

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Sounds like they are simply pissed that he did not cover it up better.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2021, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1774 "2021-06-12T00:20:34Z")

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Chicago cop arrested for his part in the insurrection. It seems he was out to get him some commies!

> **[Chicago police officer arrested, charged for alleged role in Capitol riot](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/chicago-police-officer-arrested-charged-alleged-role-capitol-riot-n1270510)**
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> Police say they found text messages in which CPD officer Karol J. Chwiesiuk wrote that he was "busy planning how to f\*\*\* up commies."

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**Author:** ![F.U.Shakespeare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aca169/32.png) [@F.U.Shakespeare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.U.Shakespeare)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2021, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1775 "2021-06-15T15:05:50Z")

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[A man who bragged about chugging wine at the Capitol riot is campaigning for office. He learned mid-interview he’s running for the wrong seat. (msn.com)](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/a-man-who-bragged-about-chugging-wine-at-the-capitol-riot-is-campaigning-for-office-he-learned-mid-interview-he-s-running-for-the-wrong-seat/ar-AAL3YQ4?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531)

I think he should run on a temperance platform. That’ll lock up evangelical support.

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2021, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1776 "2021-06-15T16:28:54Z")

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USA Today has a nice comprehensive summary of the on-going round-up.

[https://www.usatoday.com/storytelling/capitol-riot-mob-arrests/](https://www.usatoday.com/storytelling/capitol-riot-mob-arrests/)

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2021, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1777 "2021-06-15T16:47:56Z")

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That’s a good summary, thanks - and searchable by name or state! (My wife will be pleased to know that there were apparently no Vermonters among the idjits there that day).

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2021, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1778 "2021-06-15T19:28:02Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> … no Vermonters among the idjits …

identified so far. The investigation is yet young.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2021, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1779 "2021-06-15T19:32:51Z")

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It is a small state… 😉

Any Rhode Island residents?

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2021, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1780 "2021-06-15T19:46:49Z")

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I heard sometime recently that 250 counties produced over 420 of the 880+ arrested insurrectionists.

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**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2021, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1781 "2021-06-15T21:44:30Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> I heard sometime recently that 250 counties produced over 420 of the 880+ arrested insurrectionists…

So, it was date night for half the insurrectionists?

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**Author:** ![F.U.Shakespeare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aca169/32.png) [@F.U.Shakespeare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.U.Shakespeare)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2021, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1782 "2021-06-15T22:15:32Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> I heard sometime recently that 250 counties produced over 420 of the 880+ arrested insurrectionists.

My hometown in West Virginia (population around 30,000) contributed 2 out of the 483 charged, nearly fifty times the number expected if the distribution of nutcases were uniform nationally.

Overachievement, West Virginia style!

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**Post date:** [June 15, 2021, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1783 "2021-06-15T22:48:01Z")

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Oh man, I just tuned into a House of Representatives hearing on January 6th - missed most of it, but I have a few takeaways.

I’m shaking my head at how disingenuous Chris Wray is. I get it, free speech, the FBI isn’t supposed to investigate anyone over speech. But calling the post-election “Stop The Steal” movement “online chatter? Repeating refusing to say that the motivation for the majority of the insurrectionists was the belief that the election was stolen? Give me a break.

And - you heard it here first- the Republicans are workshopping some new talking points……blaming the Capitol Police and DC mayor Muriel Bowser and insinuating that there was some sort of collusion between the Capitol Police and Democrats.

The narrative is that “Democrats realized that Trump supporters would riot if you made it really easy for them, by failing to provide a show of force the Democrats made the insurrectionists try to overthrow the government because it would make Trump look bad. It’s all part of their continued persecution of Trump.

I’m pretty sure that one reason they choose this angle is that as an added bonus they get to blame not one, but two, black woman.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2021, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1784 "2021-06-15T23:20:40Z")

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Remember: conservatives are always the _real_ victim.

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**Post date:** [June 15, 2021, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1785 "2021-06-15T23:31:17Z")

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Follow-up. The Chicago cop arrested in the insurrection lives with his parents.

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