# 7 Jan 2021 and beyond - the aftermath of the storming of the Capitol

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [January 8, 2021, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020 "2021-01-08T10:28:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1786 "2021-06-16T00:32:26Z")

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That is the _least_ surprising detail of this entire affair.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1787 "2021-06-16T02:14:03Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> I heard sometime recently that 250 counties produced over 420 of the 880+ arrested insurrectionists.

The dramatically different populations of different counties means that, by itself, this stat doesn’t really tell us much of anything at all.

The 250 largest counties in the United States have a combined population of just over 202 million, or about 62 percent of the US population. I’d be willing to bet that 250 counties also typically produce about half of America’s nurses, rapists, bicycle riders, cat owners, and Pulitzer prize winners.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1788 "2021-06-16T03:34:29Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> The 250 largest counties in the United States have a combined population of just over 202 million, or about 62 percent of the US population. I’d be willing to bet that 250 counties also typically produce about half of America’s

True. But it’s a much better bet that the 250 counties that produced half the insurrectionists were many of the smallest counties, not the largest.

> [@F.U.Shakespeare](#):
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> My hometown in West Virginia (population around 30,000) contributed 2 out of the 483 charged, nearly fifty times the number expected if the distribution of nutcases were uniform nationally.
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> Overachievement, West Virginia style!

I’m going to bet that if we plotted town or county population versus percentage of residents who were present at the insurrection we’d get a very clear inverse correlation. IOW: big city = almost entirely not there. Rural village = they sent a rep, if not 2 or 5. Best and brightest and all that… 😉

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1789 "2021-06-16T04:09:40Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> But it’s a much better bet that the 250 counties that produced half the insurrectionists were many of the smallest counties, not the largest.

Not in Kansas. According to that USA Today article, there were 7 folks arrested that were from Kansas. 3 of them live in Johnson County, the state’s most populous.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1790 "2021-06-16T13:26:41Z")

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This does my heart good:

> **[Proud Boys descended into dysfunction and finger-pointing as members were...](https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/15/politics/proud-boys-dysfunction-capitol-attack/index.html)**
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> A private Proud Boys audio chat that was made public Tuesday shows how the right-wing group fell into dysfunction and finger-pointing as its members got arrested after the US Capitol riot.

But this, blecccch, does not:

> **[21 Republicans vote no on bill to award Congressional Gold Medal for January...](https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/15/politics/congressional-gold-medal-house-vote/index.html)**
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> Despite the House and Senate coming to an agreement that will award the Congressional Gold Medal to the officers who defended the Capitol, 21 House Republicans voted against the legislation Tuesday, the latest reminder that members of Congress still...

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1791 "2021-06-16T14:17:33Z")

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Here’s some news:

> **[Military defends Jan. 6 response as House steps up probes](https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-joe-biden-dc-wire-capitol-siege-government-and-politics-757b9cbcf2e29cc44b3b5baf8029c144)**
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> WASHINGTON (AP) — A top Army leader defended the Pentagon’s response to the Jan. 6 insurrection at the U.S. Capitol, telling a House panel Tuesday that the National Guard was delayed for hours because it had to properly prepare for the deployment and...

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**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1792 "2021-06-16T16:12:09Z")

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Subhuman piece-of-shit Rep. Paul Gosar demanded in a hearing yesterday the name of the Capitol Police officer who shot and killed Ashli Babbitt as she was breaking into the House chamber. He said that she was “executed” and the officer was, “hiding and lying in wait.” He of course was one of the 21 Republicans who voted against the Congressional Gold Medal for officers who defended the Capitol.

MTG may get all the press, but Gosar is just as much of a turd.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1793 "2021-06-16T22:13:42Z")

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Ashli Babbitt died a traitor’s death. Gosar is indeed a piece of shit for demanding the name of the officer who shot and killed her. All this would do is put the officer’s life in danger.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1794 "2021-06-16T22:55:26Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> All this would do is put the officer’s life in danger.

It would also make other Capitol police think twice about protecting Congress.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1795 "2021-06-16T22:56:49Z")

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I would be surprised if some have not already thought twice about protecting _all_ of Congress.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1796 "2021-06-16T23:52:34Z")

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And the next time these morons attack, they will go after anyone in a suit and tie.

Mob violence.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1797 "2021-06-16T23:56:11Z")

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> The narrative is that “Democrats realized that Trump supporters would riot if you made it really easy for them, by failing to provide a show of force the Democrats made the insurrectionists try to overthrow the government because it would make Trump look bad. It’s all part of their continued persecution of Trump.

Wow, just wow. Like, “That jewelry display was so nice _you made me_ smash the window and steal it” type reasoning.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1798 "2021-06-17T00:13:04Z")

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There is no bizarre reimagining of recent history that Congressional Republicans will not stoop to if it means keeping The Orange One happy (and avoiding being primaried).

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**Author:** ![F.U.Shakespeare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aca169/32.png) [@F.U.Shakespeare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.U.Shakespeare)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1799 "2021-06-17T00:47:50Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Wow, just wow. Like, “That jewelry display was so nice _you made me_ smash the window and steal it” type reasoning.

I recall public service announcements from the late 1960s urging people, "Don’t help a good boy go bad. _Lock your car, take your keys"_.

Even as a young kid, I thought that was ridiculous. It seems that in 2021, the right has taken on that mantle.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1800 "2021-06-17T01:05:08Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> Not in Kansas. According to that USA Today article, there were 7 folks arrested that were from Kansas. 3 of them live in Johnson County, the state’s most populous.

According to the Census Bureau, as of 2019, there were 3193 counties in the United States.

Johnson County is the 162nd least populous, meaning there are more than 3000 counties with higher populations.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1801 "2021-06-17T01:23:31Z")

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> [@Morgyn](#):
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> According to the Census Bureau, as of 2019, there were 3193 counties in the United States.
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> Johnson County is the 162nd least populous, meaning there are more than 3000 counties with higher populations.

Better check your data. According to [World Population Review](https://worldpopulationreview.com/us-counties), the 2021 population of Johnson County, Kansas, is 610,949, which ranks it #114 on the list of county size by population. 17 states have a county named Johnson.

My point still stands.

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1802 "2021-06-17T01:29:01Z")

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Hmmm…

According to Wikipedia, using 2019 Census Bureau info, Hudson County, New Jersey, has an estimated population of 672,391. From the same source, Johnson County, KS has an estimated population of 602,401.

It seems likely that Johnson County, KS is the 162nd _most_ populous county. If you had 2900 counties between its population and Hudson County, NJ, they would have a total population of over 1.7 billion.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1803 "2021-06-17T02:13:53Z")

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Damnit, I thought I had the list sorted from smallest to largest. Looks like I had it sorted the other way around.

[egg on face]

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1804 "2021-06-17T13:11:19Z")

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No words for what scumbags some Republican Congressmen are.

> **[Officer injured in Capitol riot blasts GOP lawmaker's behavior as...](https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/16/politics/michael-fanone-us-capitol-insurrection-cnntv/index.html)**
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> A DC Metropolitan Police officer who defended the US Capitol on January 6 blasted GOP Rep. Andrew Clyde on Wednesday evening for what he called "disgusting" behavior during a tense exchange.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1805 "2021-06-17T17:52:39Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> All this would do is put the officer’s life in danger.

I think that is his intention.

There are 20 - 25 Republicans in Congress who are active participants in trying to overthrow an elected government, and are willing to encourage supporters to take violent means to do this. They are dangerous traitors. The fact that they are even allowed to vote on whether or not to investigate _themselves_ for their part in an insurrection is just mind-blowing.

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