# 7 Jan 2021 and beyond - the aftermath of the storming of the Capitol

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [January 8, 2021, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020 "2021-01-08T10:28:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2021, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1887 "2021-07-13T23:19:07Z")

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MAGA rioter gets pre-trial release by proving that he was too stupid to have planned his actions.

> **[QAnon-backing Capitol rioter granted release because he mistakenly thought he...](https://www.rawstory.com/doug-jensen-iowa/)**
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> A U.S. Capitol rioter who was diverted away from the Senate chamber will be released from jail while he awaits charges.Doug Jensen, who was wearing a QAnon T-shirt when he confronted Capitol police officer Eugene Goodman during the Jan. 6...

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**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2021, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1888 "2021-07-14T14:49:26Z")

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The “I’m too stupid to dunnit” defense. _Stone the crows._

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**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2021, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1889 "2021-07-14T14:50:41Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> MAGA rioter gets pre-trial release by proving that he was too stupid to have planned his actions.
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> [QAnon-backing Capitol rioter granted release because he mistakenly thought he was storming the White House - Raw Story](https://www.rawstory.com/doug-jensen-iowa/)

So he thought he was storming the White House and not the Capitol? Isn’t that still a crime? I can’t see how this makes him any less of a menace to society.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2021, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1890 "2021-07-14T14:54:02Z")

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> [@Akaj](#):
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> So he thought he was storming the White House and not the Capitol?

Why would he want to storm the White House. His Messiah was in charge there.

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**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2021, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1891 "2021-07-14T15:00:20Z")

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Beats me, but that’s what he’s shouting in the video.

My guess is that he thinks “The White House” is where all government happens and he’s too fucking stupid to understand that Congress meets in a completely different building. OR, he thought Biden had already been installed as President and was storming the White House to remove him.

Either way, he’s still (an alleged) violent insurrectionist and should be kept locked up until trial.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2021, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1892 "2021-07-14T15:52:40Z")

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> [@Akaj](#):
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> So he thought he was storming the White House and not the Capitol? Isn’t that still a crime? I can’t see how this makes him any less of a menace to society.

If he didn’t know which building he was storming on January 6th, that doesn’t bode well for him showing up for his trial. He may think he’s going to the courthouse and wind up at Arby’s.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2021, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1893 "2021-07-14T15:56:21Z")

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'I’d like to plead ‘no contest, your honor.’

‘Sir, this is the Arby’s drive-thru.’

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2021, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1894 "2021-07-14T17:59:10Z")

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‘Ohh, then make it a hamberder, freedom fries and covfefe.’  
‘Black coffee?’  
‘Are you calling me a RACIST!!!’

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2021, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1895 "2021-07-14T18:19:17Z")

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“Ketchup, sir?”  
“No, I don’t think I ever will.”

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2021, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1896 "2021-07-14T22:23:29Z")

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He’s a convicted felon so possession of firearms would mean real time behind bars.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2021, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1897 "2021-07-15T00:48:50Z")

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So if I try to rob a grocery store, but I’m too stupid to read, and end up trying to rob a gas station, they’ll let me skate because I was yelling “I’m robbing this grocery store!” during the botched hold up of the gas station?

Something is not quite right here.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2021, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1898 "2021-07-15T15:38:24Z")

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Yeah, I’m sure there’s more to that case.

And see:

> **[Former Oklahoma City Thunder employee turned in by coworkers pleads guilty in...](https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/14/politics/capitol-riot-guilty-plea-danielle-doyle/index.html)**
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> A former Oklahoma City Thunder employee turned in by her former coworkers pleaded guilty on Wednesday to a misdemeanor charge for her part in the US Capitol insurrection.

> **[Feds arrest 5 family members from Texas in new US Capitol riot case | CNN...](https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/13/politics/munn-family-texas-us-capitol/index.html)**
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> Five members of a Texas family were arrested on Tuesday for entering the US Capitol together during the January 6 insurrection.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2021, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1899 "2021-07-16T17:20:01Z")

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Did she sign this in blood? Is that a bloody fingerprint?

> **['Drop all Charges against my VESSEL': MAGA rioter delivers bizarre court...](https://www.rawstory.com/capitol-hill-riot-2653802024/)**
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> A MAGA rioter who infamously called for the hanging of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has filed a bizarre motion to dismiss her case in which she employs rhetoric similar to that used by the "sovereign citizen" movement to demand her release.Via NBC 4...

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2021, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1900 "2021-07-16T17:33:20Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> Is that a bloody fingerprint?

Looks like it. If it is would that be considered assault?

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**Author:** ![Si\_Amigo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/si_amigo/32/2877_2.png) [@Si\_Amigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Si_Amigo)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2021, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1901 "2021-07-16T17:35:19Z")

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Is this an insanity attempt or a stupidity reveal?

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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2021, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1902 "2021-07-16T18:28:49Z")

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The @ MacFarlane twitter stream has been on fire for quite a while with all the ins/outs of the insurrectionist cases as they weave and wend. Worth monitoring.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2021, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1903 "2021-07-16T19:01:30Z")

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> [@squeegee](#):
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> The @ MacFarlane twitter stream

Should this be @Macfarlanenews ?

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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2021, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1904 "2021-07-16T19:03:24Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> Should this be @Macfarlanenews ?

Yes, my bad

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2021, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1905 "2021-07-16T20:26:14Z")

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Insanity pleas are pretty stupid in the US.

If you are convicted of a crime, you pay your fine, spend your time in prison until you are out. Probably time off for good behavior.

If you are found insane, then you are locked up in a mental asylum until doctors who have an interest in keeping you there decide that you are no longer insance.

I’d much rather go the prison route.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2021, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1906 "2021-07-16T21:19:28Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> If you are found insane, then you are locked up in a mental asylum until doctors who have an interest in keeping you there decide that you are no longer insance.

Where were you when R.P. McMurphy needed you??  
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