# 70% of all fights go to the ground.

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**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [October 31, 2008, 8:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/70-of-all-fights-go-to-the-ground/470400 "2008-10-31T08:38:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ea5d25/32.png) [@Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Scrappy_Hero_Pup)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2008, 7:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/70-of-all-fights-go-to-the-ground/470400/21 "2008-11-01T07:54:28Z")

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[QUOTE= Cardinal]  
Underestimated by whom? Considering the success of Couture, Lesnar, Lindland, Liddell, Koscheck, and others, it seems to me that knowledgeable fans know that wrestling is a pretty good fighting base.  
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Success of LESNAR? :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2008, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/70-of-all-fights-go-to-the-ground/470400/22 "2008-11-01T14:31:24Z")

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> [@pravnik](#):
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> Some of the same guys will have respect for Judo but not wrestling, for no discernable reason other than that Judo is Japanese and Judoka wear gis and belts.

Well, not necessarily [the only reason](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UwxDGGcEIc).

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**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2008, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/70-of-all-fights-go-to-the-ground/470400/23 "2008-11-01T16:04:37Z")

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> [@mmmiiikkkeee](#):
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> … Royce was one of his younger brothers and chosen to represent the family in the cage; Royce didn’t do much talking at the time - that was Rorion’s thing. …

Really surprises me how few folks ever mention Rickson.  
Before anyone had ever heard of UFC, Rickson was THE MAN!

Just preaching to the choir I’m sure, but instead of just focusing on takedowns and submissions, the well-rounded fighter ought to work on greco-roman or other stand-up grappling.

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**Author:** ![mmmiiikkkeee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/edb3f5/32.png) [@mmmiiikkkeee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mmmiiikkkeee)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2008, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/70-of-all-fights-go-to-the-ground/470400/24 "2008-11-01T17:51:41Z")

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> [@Dinsdale](#):
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> Really surprises me how few folks ever mention Rickson.  
> Before anyone had ever heard of UFC, Rickson was THE MAN!

Rickson was considered to represent the Gracies in the UFC, but Royce (being gangly and scrawney) winning would make BJJ look more impressive. That and Rickson had some spat with the family at the time. It depends where you look though; Rickson is talked about all too much in many circles. The real unsung stud of that family is Rolls; too bad he died.

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**Author:** ![Cardinal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardinal/32/4000_2.png) [@Cardinal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardinal)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2008, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/70-of-all-fights-go-to-the-ground/470400/25 "2008-11-02T02:49:13Z")

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> [@Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](#):
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> Success of LESNAR? :dubious:

Yes.

He scared Mir and dominated Herring. I thought if that Herring fight had been 6 months later, it might have lasted half as long, because Lesnar would have choked him out. Even I could spot opportunities he was missing.

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