# 700 Club **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 29, 2010, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/700-club/526914 "2010-01-29T17:17:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![fubbleskag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fubbleskag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fubbleskag)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2010, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/700-club/526914/21 "2010-01-29T18:31:38Z")
Excessive punctuation is cool, but it’s no CAPS LOCK. ---
**Author:** ![Silverstreak\_Wonder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Silverstreak\_Wonder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silverstreak_Wonder)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2010, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/700-club/526914/22 "2010-01-29T18:44:58Z")
Do you all realize in sandy areas water wells are dug in a few hours or less, often by just using water from the sea to drill with? It is not like you are in the rocky mountains. They can be fitted with hand pumps like in the 1800’s too so power is not needed for them to get water. The Seabees should have gotten off those Navy ships and done this upon arrival, yes indeed. Months of planning are NOT needed to go send a team to repair an existing water plant either, just supply some generators and some skilled workers they already have who had worked there, and give them materials and tools. ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2010, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/700-club/526914/23 "2010-01-29T18:58:15Z")
> [@Silverstreak\_Wonder](#): > > I’d want to know what the aid was, from anyone before donating. This is the pit and a great place to say what in the hell with all this bottled water?? That is nuts, they will just want another bottle tomorrow. Yeah, the greedy fuckers. A friend of mine is just shipping 7 large water purifiers out there that can be hooked up to the water supply (which is still working in places) or wells. It’s not either-or, Streakypants. ---
**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2010, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/700-club/526914/24 "2010-01-29T19:00:21Z")
> [@Zebra](#): > > Well, seeing how the head of the 700 Club recently said it was the fault of the people of Haiti,(do you remember that?) it is rather strange of them to now be willing to help them. Now if Mr. Robertson would retract his ignorant statement… > > It doesn’t matter if all or part of the money is going to Haiti. The 700 Club does not have charity in their hearts on this one. No, I don’t remember that because Pat did not say that. What he did say was stupid, but he didn’t say what you’re claiming. And the day he said that, he also noted that they were presently getting assistance out to Haiti. So good of you to know what’s in people’s hearts. ---
**Author:** ![FloatyGimpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/floatygimpy/32/7750_2.png) [@FloatyGimpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FloatyGimpy)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2010, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/700-club/526914/25 "2010-01-29T19:05:38Z")
Ah, Silverstreak. You’ve turned into my new Kanicbird. That greedy so-and-so doesn’t post enough. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2010, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/700-club/526914/26 "2010-01-29T19:13:31Z")
> [@Silverstreak\_Wonder](#): > > Do you all realize in sandy areas water wells are dug in a few hours or less, often by just using water from the sea to drill with? It is not like you are in the rocky mountains. They can be fitted with hand pumps like in the 1800’s too so power is not needed for them to get water. The Seabees should have gotten off those Navy ships and done this upon arrival, yes indeed. > > Months of planning are NOT needed to go send a team to repair an existing water plant either, just supply some generators and some skilled workers they already have who had worked there, and give them materials and tools. Even if that were so, what’s it to you if we bring them bottled water in the meantime? (And no shit, you’re going to want another bottle. Duh. Greedy bastards. Probably want another clean bandaid too! Can’t they make their own?) ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2010, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/700-club/526914/27 "2010-01-29T19:52:43Z")
> [@](#): > > Let’s make up a platitude summing up this pearl; maybe we could have it be about fishing and giving away fish to make it seem like really ancient wisdom. Build a man a fire and you’ll keep him warm for an hour. But set a man of fire and he’ll be warm for the rest of his life. ---
**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2010, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/700-club/526914/28 "2010-01-29T20:03:05Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Build a man a fire and you’ll keep him warm for an hour. But set a man of fire and he’ll be warm for the rest of his life. Even better than my stupid fish idea. ---
**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2010, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/700-club/526914/29 "2010-01-29T20:03:06Z")
I just picked up The 700 Club 700 DVD boxset on Amazon. Only $699.99! ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2010, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/700-club/526914/30 "2010-01-29T20:32:37Z")
> [@MOIDALIZE](#): > > I just picked up The 700 Club 700 DVD boxset on Amazon. Only $699.99! I wouldn’t pay more than $666 for it. ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2010, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/700-club/526914/31 "2010-01-29T21:29:26Z")
> [@Arnold\_Winkelried](#): > > I commend the 700 club for their efforts, but they should realize that all the money in the world can’t help a country whose founders have made a **PACT WITH SATAN!!!** Well, where do you think the portion Pat isn’t sending to Haitian relief will go? ---
**Author:** ![DanBlather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@DanBlather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DanBlather)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2010, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/700-club/526914/32 "2010-01-29T21:31:47Z")
My take was that they were looking for people to give to the 700 club like usual, but right now they’ll send part of it to the Haiti relief effort. It seems sleazy to me. And he certainly did blame the people of Haiti. He said their disasters were because the Haitians had made a pact with the devil to drive out the French. I’m not sure why Christianity is so big on having the innocent descendants of sinners take on the blame themselves. I guess that means conservatives will support reparations to descendants of slaves. ---
**Author:** ![Rain\_Soaked](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e19adc/32.png) [@Rain\_Soaked](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rain_Soaked)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2010, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/700-club/526914/33 "2010-01-29T21:48:39Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Build a man a fire and you’ll keep him warm for an hour. But set a man of fire and he’ll be warm for the rest of his life. I’m sitting here in my Terry cloth robe thinking I’m such at Prat. Chet Atkins mp3 playing off my computer Disk. World of difference is what some magical music makes. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2010, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/700-club/526914/34 "2010-01-29T23:00:38Z")
> [@tdn](#): > > I wouldn’t pay more than $666 for it. Surely you meant $6.66. Decimals are important, ya know. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2010, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/700-club/526914/35 "2010-01-30T02:19:27Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Build a man a fire and you’ll keep him warm for an hour. But set a man of fire and he’ll be warm for the rest of his life. Your not saying we should set **Silverstreak Wonder** on fire … or are you?\* 😉 CMC fnord! \*We’d certainly see if he’d prefer a bottle of water now or a rebuilt water supply infrastructure whenever it actually can be rebuilt and put back online! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2010, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/700-club/526914/36 "2010-01-30T18:02:17Z")
> [@FriarTed](#): > > No, I don’t remember that because Pat did not say that. What he did say was stupid, but he didn’t say what you’re claiming. And the day he said that, he also noted that they were presently getting assistance out to Haiti. > > So good of you to know what’s in people’s hearts. [QUOTE=Pat Robertson] They need to have, and we need to pray for them, a great turning to God. [/QUOTE] He said this meaning that the current population must do this to end the curse on Haiti. That clearly puts the blame on the people of Haiti. Board rules prevent me from posting what’s in my heart. ---
**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2010, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/700-club/526914/37 "2010-01-30T18:18:18Z")
> [@Zebra](#): > > He said this meaning that the current population must do this to end the curse on Haiti. > That clearly puts the blame on the people of Haiti. > Board rules prevent me from posting what’s in my heart. You and I differ on the meaning of “blame”. In Christian theology, all of us are under the curse of sin & death & separation from God until we turn to Him through Jesus. It doesn’t mean we’re to blame for anything but our own personal sins. I will say this: “They need to have, and we need to pray for them, a great turning to God.” is actually pretty good advice for a people in which Voodoo is predominant. Pretty good advice for anyone, really. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2010, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/700-club/526914/38 "2010-01-30T18:26:18Z")
> [@FriarTed](#): > > You and I differ on the meaning of “blame”. In Christian theology, all of us are under the curse of sin & death & separation from God until we turn to Him through Jesus. It doesn’t mean we’re to blame for anything but our own personal sins. > > \*\*I will say this: > > “They need to have, and we need to pray for them, a great turning to God.” > > is actually pretty good advice for a people in which Voodoo is predominant. > > Pretty good advice for anyone, really\*\*. Read up on [Vodun](http://www.religioustolerance.org/voodoo.htm). [QUOTE] Today, there are two virtually unrelated forms of the religion: An actual religion, **Vodun** practiced in Benin, Dominican Republic, Ghana, Haiti, Togo and various centers in the US - largely where Haitian refuges have settled. An evil, imaginary religion, which we will call **Voodoo**. It has been created for Hollywood movies, complete with violence, bizarre rituals, etc. It does not exist in reality. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2010, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/700-club/526914/39 "2010-01-30T18:35:45Z")
I don’t know that that follows, exactly. He blamed the leaders of Haiti at the time of the Revolution (for the whole pact with Satan thing), and said that the current Haitians need both charity now and to turn to God, i.e. become evangelical Christians. But Pat thinks everybody should become an evangelical Christian. If you ask him about Norway or Botswana, he’d say they need to turn to God and become evangelical Christians too, and then their lives woud improve. So I don’t think he’s blaming the Haitians now for the actions of their ancestors. It’s just in Pat Robertson’s view, natural disasters happen because somebody’s pissed God off. Hurricanes in Florida? It’s because Disneyworld has Gay Day. Not the fault of everybody in Florida, just the Disney people, but the hurricane hits because his God is indiscriminate in the infliction of suffering. Hurricane Katrina hits? It’s because women are getting abortions, and God’s pissed off that America allows that. It’s not the specific fault of the people of New Orleans and the Gulf Coast. There are plenty of people in coastal Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama who never got abortions and don’t even approve of them, but again, angry indiscriminate God. Or, he agrees with Falwell that God let the 9/11 attacks happen because of the ACLU, abortionists, feminists, pagans, lesbians and gays. Not everybody in the twin towers or Pentagon were these things, but angry indiscriminate God. ---
**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2010, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/700-club/526914/40 "2010-01-30T18:54:58Z")
[quote=“runner pat, post:38, topic:526914”] Read up on [Vodun](http://www.religioustolerance.org/voodoo.htm). > [@](#): > > Today, there are two virtually unrelated forms of the religion: > > An actual religion, **Vodun** practiced in Benin, Dominican Republic, Ghana, Haiti, Togo and various centers in the US - largely where Haitian refuges have settled. > > An evil, imaginary religion, which we will call **Voodoo**. It has been created for Hollywood movies, complete with violence, bizarre rituals, etc. It does not exist in reality. I actually knew the basics of what was in that article, and the only correction I would make in what I said is in replacing “Voodoo” with “Voudoun”, the spelling of Vodun with which I’m most familiar. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/700-club/526914.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/700-club/526914.md?page=3)