# 8:32PM Central time, 11/1/2024: Approximately 96 hours to go!

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 2, 2024, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/8-32pm-central-time-11-1-2024-approximately-96-hours-to-go/1009572 "2024-11-02T01:33:48Z")\
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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/8-32pm-central-time-11-1-2024-approximately-96-hours-to-go/1009572/41 "2024-11-03T06:31:53Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> In the event she loses, the American electoral system has spoken, and the will of the people is to have a bully arrogant senile dictator who will imprison minorities, weaponize the judiciary, and roll back 150 years of human rights.  
> The American Experiment will be officially over. Russia and China will take over as world leaders. And that will be what the people chose.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/3c66w6fVqOI/maxresdefault.jpg "ＬＯＣＡＬ５８ＴＶ - Contingency") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c66w6fVqOI)

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**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/8-32pm-central-time-11-1-2024-approximately-96-hours-to-go/1009572/42 "2024-11-03T07:10:34Z")

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> [@dolphinboy](#):
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> assuming I can find a better country willing to take me.

Portugal. Low cost, a vast mix of 1st and 3rd world stuff, English is widely spoken and they have generous investment and eventual citizenship requirements. Or you can live as an ex-pat.

I mean, you could also come here to South Africa (prices are on par with Portugal) but our own domestic politics\* are way more dramatic than the USA. We just don’t feature in international news.

Apologies for the off-topic post.

\* for example, a local politician and presidential candidate seized his bodyguard’s AK-47 and let off a few rounds into the air at a rally. He has not been prosecuted despite video clearly showing him do this.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/8-32pm-central-time-11-1-2024-approximately-96-hours-to-go/1009572/43 "2024-11-03T07:39:26Z")

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> [@scudsucker](#):
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> Portugal.

The home of the most indulgent sandwich I have ever heard of. I want to try one someday. I’d make one myself but it sounds like WAY too much work for a single portion.

> **[Francesinha](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francesinha)**
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> Francesinha (.mw-parser-output .IPA-label-small{font-size:85%}.mw-parser-output .references .IPA-label-small,.mw-parser-output .infobox .IPA-label-small,.mw-parser-output .navbox .IPA-label-small{font-size:100%}Portuguese pronunciation: \[fɾɐ̃sɨˈziɲɐ\] meaning little French woman) is a Portuguese sandwich, originally from Porto, made with layers of toasted bread and assorted hot meats such as roast, steak, wet-cured ham, linguiça, or chipolata over which sliced cheese is melted by the ladling The f...

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**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 8:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/8-32pm-central-time-11-1-2024-approximately-96-hours-to-go/1009572/44 "2024-11-03T08:28:18Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> The home of the most indulgent sandwich I have ever heard of

My ex lives in Porto. I will ask her if she’s tried one.

On the other hand we have… the [gatsby](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.reddit.com/r/eatsandwiches/comments/yyguxn/steak_gatsby_from_mariams_kitchen_cape_town_south/&ved=2ahUKEwilktyt37-JAxVmUkEAHdshOeQQFnoECBkQBQ&usg=AOvVaw0QbumhD2fVxn0LU7nXe0Xf).

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**Author:** ![dolphinboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dolphinboy/32/330_2.png) [@dolphinboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dolphinboy)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/8-32pm-central-time-11-1-2024-approximately-96-hours-to-go/1009572/45 "2024-11-03T13:38:01Z")

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Thanks scudsucker. I’ll add Portugal to my short list of countries. I’ve heard good things about it, but never visited there, although I have been in Spain a few times on business. Lots of rich history, and the coastline is apparently spectacular. I even know a few words of Portuguese having been to Brazil a few times.

I’ll look into their immigration policies versus being an ex-pat. Are you from Portugal? Do you live in or around Lisbon, or somewhere else? Names of specific cities to investigate would be helpful. And being located somewhat near a major airport would be a real plus.

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**Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/8-32pm-central-time-11-1-2024-approximately-96-hours-to-go/1009572/46 "2024-11-03T14:07:58Z")

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Utterly off topic, mods forgive me, I will not pursue this.

I’m not Portuguese, my ex is (well, she is now, by marriage, she is also Zimbabwean like me)

Porto and Lisbon are the big cities but they tend to be quite expensive and have little accomodation near the city centers. You probably don’t want that; I did as a tourist.

The Algarve (the South, Mediterranean coast) has lots of pockets of cheap real estate, and some quite expensive areas driven by investment by English retirees. It is glorious. Certainly worth a fact-finding holiday.

Lisbon itself is a “must see”, secondly the eccentric town of Selma - be early everywhere, tourists tend to be late and thus need to queue. I traveled there with a two year old… I had no choice but to be awake early. But it was really worthwhile. I mean, 5 minute queue with a two year old at 08:00 vs 5 hour queue at 11:00?

Also a very welcoming culture, and great cuisine.

I don’t really like the beer, but you can drink in public. Some of the wine is sublime, and that praise comes from a country (and region) where I live that makes damn fine wine.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/8-32pm-central-time-11-1-2024-approximately-96-hours-to-go/1009572/47 "2024-11-03T14:33:07Z")

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> [@snowthx](#):
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> What? What are _you_ going to do if the unthinkable happens?

The first time Trump won, i subscribed to newspapers. Lots of newspapers and other news vendors. I felt truth, especially news reporting was under attack, and this was a small thing i could do to help.

I subscribed to  
NYT  
The economist  
The guardian  
NPR  
Reuters  
Al Jazeera  
And i already had subscriptions to the WSJ and it local newspaper.

Some of those are paid and others are free.

I’ve since dropped the economist and picked up AP and the Washington Post. I’m told Reuters has started asking for money. They haven’t asked me, yet, but i intend to pay them when they do. I should probably look into CNC and BBC.

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**Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/8-32pm-central-time-11-1-2024-approximately-96-hours-to-go/1009572/48 "2024-11-03T14:47:09Z")

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It’ll be a while before we know the results, because some important swing states (I’m looking at you, Pennsylvania) have broken polling systems, and won’t report results for ages.

Gift link:  
When to Expect Results in Each State on Election Night, and Beyond [When to Expect Election Results in Each State - The New York Times](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/us/elections/results-timing-presidential-race-calls.html?unlocked_article_code=1.XE4.4sdk.Ie2Gr0Mvkz0N)

That article is a little out of date, in that it repeatedly says that Democrats are more likely to vote by mail. That doesn’t appear to be true this year.

> **[How many Americans have already voted in the 2024 general election? | AP News](https://apnews.com/projects/election-results-2024/2024-early-voting-tracker/)**
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> Almost two-thirds of voters cast an early ballot in 2020. Here's how advance voting is progressing in 2024.

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**Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/8-32pm-central-time-11-1-2024-approximately-96-hours-to-go/1009572/49 "2024-11-03T15:42:53Z")

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Maybe it’s not obvious why that link supports my claim that early voting isn’t predominately Democratic this year. You need to poke around and look at various states, as each state publishes different info about their early voters. But some, like Arizona, where most early voting is by mail, list the breakdown among Democrats, Republicans, and other, and currently, the Republican ballots significantly outnumber the Democratic ones.

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**Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/8-32pm-central-time-11-1-2024-approximately-96-hours-to-go/1009572/50 "2024-11-03T17:46:48Z")

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The Quaker who writes on this site [https://mailchi.mp/e147d6c17dee/grounding-resources-for-election-day?e=34db89892c](https://mailchi.mp/e147d6c17dee/grounding-resources-for-election-day?e=34db89892c) has some useful ideas on how to be an election volunteer and keep cool, ways to chill the agita, and, again, a link to the how to prepare for a Trump victory exercise. It assumes one is a political activist or has a high interest in politics, and that this election is particularly crazy-making. It may be of some help to those who are beset by crippling anxiety around this election.

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