# 8 months pregnant woman murdered for her baby. What the fuck is wrong with people?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 17, 2004, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/8-months-pregnant-woman-murdered-for-her-baby-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-people/280348 "2004-12-17T15:21:47Z")\
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**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2004, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/8-months-pregnant-woman-murdered-for-her-baby-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-people/280348/1 "2004-12-17T15:21:47Z")

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[Link](http://www.kfoxtv.com/news/4005020/detail.html)

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> Nodaway County Sheriff Bill Espey said, “Someone was wanting a baby awful bad.”

I nominate this for Understatement of the Year.

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> The sheriff issued an Amber Alert for the missing fetus. Police are searching for an 8-month-old white, female fetus. It also suggested that things to look for in the case included “bloody clothing or towels, possible health issues with the fetus and a freshly cut umbilical cord.”

Other than the fact that it is now a baby (and to my mind always was), this might be the sickest APB I have ever seen. “Calling all cars, be on the lookout for a baby that looks freshly ripped from a woman’s body, likely covered with blood and possibly already dead”.

And to the person/people who did this: You will be caught. People tend to notice a baby showing up one day. They also tend to notice that you now have a baby even though you were never pregnant (or your girlfriend/wife wasn’t ever pregnant). You also tend to give yourself away with constant laments about babies that you apparently can’t have, and a baby suddenly showing up is just a bit too coincidental.

You will be caught, and when you are, I think we should cut out your heart.

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**Author:** ![Elza\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Elza\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elza_B)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2004, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/8-months-pregnant-woman-murdered-for-her-baby-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-people/280348/2 "2004-12-17T15:25:00Z")

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Holy crap.

The world scares me sometimes. It really does.

E.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2004, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/8-months-pregnant-woman-murdered-for-her-baby-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-people/280348/3 "2004-12-17T15:28:51Z")

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That is quite possibly the most horrific thing I’ve ever heard.

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**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2004, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/8-months-pregnant-woman-murdered-for-her-baby-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-people/280348/4 "2004-12-17T15:39:55Z")

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Criminy, I thought Macduff’s line to Macbeth, “I am of no woman born, I was from my mother’s womb untimely ripped!” was just literary license. HTF are they going to care for a premature baby without proper medical equipment?

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**Author:** ![AsecretK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7ab992/32.png) [@AsecretK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AsecretK)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2004, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/8-months-pregnant-woman-murdered-for-her-baby-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-people/280348/5 "2004-12-17T15:40:11Z")

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That happened here in Ohio too. It is just unbelievable ☹

[Link](http://archives.cnn.com/2000/US/10/05/pregnant.woman.killing.02/)

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**Author:** ![Blackclaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e68b1a/32.png) [@Blackclaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blackclaw)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2004, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/8-months-pregnant-woman-murdered-for-her-baby-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-people/280348/6 "2004-12-17T15:40:49Z")

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> [@Airman Doors](#):
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> I think we should cut out your heart.

good luck finding it.

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**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2004, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/8-months-pregnant-woman-murdered-for-her-baby-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-people/280348/7 "2004-12-17T15:48:16Z")

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> [@gobear](#):
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> Criminy, I thought Macduff’s line to Macbeth, “I am of no woman born, I was from my mother’s womb untimely ripped!” was just literary license. HTF are they going to care for a premature baby without proper medical equipment?

Nope, Macduff was a c-section, or so the director told me in college.

“8 months” is a nebulous phrase and is probably being used instead of a more accurate and more useful week count so the police can verify calls. If someone calls about a 40 week infant, it’s obviously the wrong one.

8 months can mean anywhere from 32 weeks, which probably, but not always, needs a ventilator and warmer but not much else, to 36 weeks, which needs a slap on the butt and a kiss, but probably no intervention.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2004, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/8-months-pregnant-woman-murdered-for-her-baby-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-people/280348/8 "2004-12-17T16:06:10Z")

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> [@WhyNot](#):
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> Nope, Macduff was a c-section, or so the director told me in college.

Yah, that line reminded me of a saint called San Ramón Nonato (St Raymond the Unborn): his mother died of other causes and the father figured that, since she was _very_ pregnant, maybe he could still save the baby. The baby evidently survived.

I’m against the death penalty as a matter of general principle, but cases like these make me wish I belonged to a better species. Like E. Coli.

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**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2004, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/8-months-pregnant-woman-murdered-for-her-baby-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-people/280348/9 "2004-12-17T16:58:38Z")

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> [@Airman Doors](#):
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> You will be caught, and when you are, I think we should cut out your heart.

**AD** This is [Skidmore](http://www.findmall.com/cgi-bin/forums/royal_tales/royal.pl?noframes;read=10141)

Half the town is suspected as witnesses to a murder and the case was never solved. Talk about a communitiy that comes together.

These people don’t mess around. If the people of Skidmore get a clue as to who did this I suspect the law may _never_ get a chance to coddle anyone.

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**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2004, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/8-months-pregnant-woman-murdered-for-her-baby-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-people/280348/10 "2004-12-17T17:29:06Z")

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Christ.

And I thought the story from this thread:

> **[Woman falls on baby, killing both (lame, unfocused)](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=292318)**
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> Not exactly a flame, and I’m not sure this is the right forum, but needs venting, and it’s just too tragic for MPSIMS ☹ Two die as woman falling from 13th floor lands on baby I mean, this is the kind of stuff that never shows up in even the worst...

was the worst thing I’d ever heard.

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**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2004, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/8-months-pregnant-woman-murdered-for-her-baby-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-people/280348/11 "2004-12-17T18:23:52Z")

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Am I having déjà vu, or didn’t this exact same thing happen a year or two ago?

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2004, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/8-months-pregnant-woman-murdered-for-her-baby-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-people/280348/12 "2004-12-17T18:24:31Z")

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> [@Airman Doors](#):
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> [Link](http://www.kfoxtv.com/news/4005020/detail.html).

Hells bells! Words fail me.

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**Author:** ![Trunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/87869e/32.png) [@Trunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trunk)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2004, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/8-months-pregnant-woman-murdered-for-her-baby-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-people/280348/13 "2004-12-17T18:45:56Z")

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> [@Eve](#):
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> Am I having déjà vu, or didn’t this exact same thing happen a year or two ago?

See the link in post #5. It happened 4 years ago in Ohio. Maybe that’s what you’re thinking of.

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**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2004, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/8-months-pregnant-woman-murdered-for-her-baby-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-people/280348/14 "2004-12-17T19:25:02Z")

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Ah. oops.

Becoming a regular fad, it sounds like.

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**Author:** ![Harmonix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Harmonix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harmonix)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2004, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/8-months-pregnant-woman-murdered-for-her-baby-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-people/280348/15 "2004-12-17T19:29:55Z")

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I’m usually a pretty tough nut about this kind of stuff but :eek:

words fail me.

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2004, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/8-months-pregnant-woman-murdered-for-her-baby-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-people/280348/16 "2004-12-17T19:55:40Z")

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Her poor mother… finding her shy daughter slain and her grandaughter carved out of the body. No one should be forced to contemplate something so horrific.

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**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2004, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/8-months-pregnant-woman-murdered-for-her-baby-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-people/280348/17 "2004-12-17T20:13:04Z")

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Remind me again how big cities are supposed to be cesspools of vile corruption, and the suburbs are a haven of decency and simple living?

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**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2004, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/8-months-pregnant-woman-murdered-for-her-baby-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-people/280348/18 "2004-12-17T20:47:15Z")

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> [@rjung](#):
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> Remind me again how big cities are supposed to be cesspools of vile corruption, and the suburbs are a haven of decency and simple living?

What a lame statement. Think PURPLE, dude…not the “Red” and “Blue” that you are trying to imply here. Violence is dependent on the person who does it, not where he/she lives.

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**Author:** ![35340](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/3/8baadc/32.png) [@35340](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/35340)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2004, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/8-months-pregnant-woman-murdered-for-her-baby-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-people/280348/19 "2004-12-17T21:39:01Z")

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msn says they found it:

**SKIDMORE, Mo. - Authorities said Friday that had found a healthy baby girl and believed it could be the child of slain Bobbi Jo Stinnett.**

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**Author:** ![Rune](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e68b1a/32.png) [@Rune](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rune)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2004, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/8-months-pregnant-woman-murdered-for-her-baby-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-people/280348/20 "2004-12-17T21:39:14Z")

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It seems the baby has been found alive. Two held in custody.

Stolen Fetus Found Alive  
(…is a fetus a fetus when it’s removed from the womb?)  
[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,141836,00.html](http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,141836,00.html)

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