# 84th Academy Awards 2012 - ongoing discussion thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 25, 2012, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/84th-academy-awards-2012-ongoing-discussion-thread/613979 "2012-02-25T18:05:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2012, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/84th-academy-awards-2012-ongoing-discussion-thread/613979/281 "2012-02-27T18:39:12Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > They also no longer have the president of the academy speak. Unless they did that again last night(I only flipped over to it a few times). Did they? Yes. They also had highlights of the Scientific & Technical Awards (and they actually gave away two Oscar statuettes (usually reserved for reasonably major inventions) at that event this year), if you missed those as well. ---
**Author:** ![Pai325](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Pai325](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pai325)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2012, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/84th-academy-awards-2012-ongoing-discussion-thread/613979/282 "2012-02-27T19:16:35Z")
I was surprised to see Peter Asher in the credits. I remember him from Peter & Gordon, and his sister from her relationship with Paul McCartney, but didn’t realize he was still so involved with music. I googled a picture of him, and boy has he changed. Of course when I look at myself from 50 years ago it’s hard to believe I’m the same species as the young girl I see in the picture. ---
**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2012, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/84th-academy-awards-2012-ongoing-discussion-thread/613979/283 "2012-02-27T21:55:24Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > This is crude and inappropriate. Don’t do it again. Hey I know you’re a mod, but some formats don’t show your moderator title. You might want to put “Modding:” in your modding posts to avoid confusion for some readers, and also just to differentiate from your regular contributions. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2012, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/84th-academy-awards-2012-ongoing-discussion-thread/613979/284 "2012-02-27T21:56:55Z")
He did. Or am I dreaming? ---
**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2012, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/84th-academy-awards-2012-ongoing-discussion-thread/613979/285 "2012-02-27T21:57:26Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > They also no longer have the president of the academy speak. Unless they did that again last night(I only flipped over to it a few times). Did they? They did, and Billy made some jokes about him being boring. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2012, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/84th-academy-awards-2012-ongoing-discussion-thread/613979/286 "2012-02-27T22:06:36Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > He did. Or am I dreaming? I see a “Moderating” note in his post. Maybe I’m dreaming, too. If so, what a mundane dream. ---
**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2012, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/84th-academy-awards-2012-ongoing-discussion-thread/613979/287 "2012-02-27T22:12:09Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > Dujardin, not Plummer, won for lead actor. Correction noted…but was Plummer’s speech that long? ---
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2012, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/84th-academy-awards-2012-ongoing-discussion-thread/613979/288 "2012-02-27T22:51:08Z")
> [@Tangent](#): > > I see a “Moderating” note in his post. Maybe I’m dreaming, too. If so, what a mundane dream. It doesn’t show up on Tapatalk for your phone. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2012, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/84th-academy-awards-2012-ongoing-discussion-thread/613979/289 "2012-02-27T23:25:35Z")
> [@Tangent](#): > > I see a “Moderating” note in his post. Maybe I’m dreaming, too. If so, what a mundane dream. A moderating note on whose post? ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2012, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/84th-academy-awards-2012-ongoing-discussion-thread/613979/290 "2012-02-27T23:41:03Z")
In **Marley** ’s post. Just above his quote of **Horseface** ’s offense, I see the word **Moderating** in bold. ---
**Author:** ![savvsyearch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc348/32.png) [@savvsyearch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/savvsyearch)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2012, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/84th-academy-awards-2012-ongoing-discussion-thread/613979/291 "2012-02-28T01:09:02Z")
> [@Mixolydian](#): > > Well, it wasn’t “Crash” bad… > > (sorry, Fusoya 😉 ) Well, nothing can be “Crash” bad. That was indeed a terrible movie. But I don’t think any of the nominees were strong enough for us to have a collective sense that any of them were jilted. ---
**Author:** ![savvsyearch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc348/32.png) [@savvsyearch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/savvsyearch)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2012, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/84th-academy-awards-2012-ongoing-discussion-thread/613979/292 "2012-02-28T01:12:46Z")
> [@That\_Don\_Guy](#): > > Correction noted…but was Plummer’s speech that long? It was long, but mostly because he was really slow talker with lots of pauses. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2012, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/84th-academy-awards-2012-ongoing-discussion-thread/613979/293 "2012-02-28T01:48:23Z")
> [@savvsyearch](#): > > It was long, but mostly because he was really slow talker with lots of pauses. No, Sir Laurence Olivier was slow with a lot of pauses. Jon Voight loves it, though. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2012, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/84th-academy-awards-2012-ongoing-discussion-thread/613979/294 "2012-02-28T02:40:02Z")
Sorry if it has been posted before, but here is a montage(Oscar-style) of the snubs of the year. [2012 Oscar Snubs](http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3iztme97NYs) ---
**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2012, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/84th-academy-awards-2012-ongoing-discussion-thread/613979/295 "2012-02-28T03:04:38Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Sorry if it has been posted before, but here is a montage(Oscar-style) of the snubs of the year. > > [2012 Oscar Snubs](http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3iztme97NYs) Some I agree with, some I don’t agree with . . . . . . but they lose all credibility for including _The Adventures of Tin Tin_ as a “snub” in the Best Animated Film category. It _WASN’T ELIGIBLE_ for that category because it was a motion capture film. ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2012, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/84th-academy-awards-2012-ongoing-discussion-thread/613979/296 "2012-02-28T03:26:05Z")
> [@randwill](#): > > Is there any way for mere mortals to see all those short live-action and animated nominees? You can see the winner of the Animated Short here: [The Fantastic Flying Books of Mr. Morris Lessmore](http://theguardiansbooks.com/FlyingBooks/?utm_source=Social&utm_medium=Post&utm_campaign=RHSocialMedia) I saw all but one of the Shorts in the theater. One theater showed 4 of the Documentary shorts on a special $5 Monday. I was told they couldn’t get the rights to show the one about actress Dolores Hart giving up Hollywood and becoming a nun. Since Hart acted with Elvis I’m assuming there’s Elvis music in it and that’s why they couldn’t get the rights, but I have no idea. Anyway, while I predicted The Tsunami and Cherry Blossom, I’m happy for Saving Face, a very somber and moving piece that deserved its win. Another theater showed the Animated and Live Action shorts as 2 blocks, one price ($10) and all of them were shown, along with a few Animated shorts that were submitted but sadly didn’t get nominated. As happy as I am for the winners, Flying Books wasn’t my favorite to win. The winners, the guys from Louisiana, were so flustered and charming I truly am happy for them and I hope they go on to bigger and better things. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2012, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/84th-academy-awards-2012-ongoing-discussion-thread/613979/297 "2012-02-28T03:41:32Z")
> [@Equipoise](#): > > This is the first movie about movies that’s ever won Best Picture. When I read that, I immediately thought, “Hey, what about ‘Singin’ in the Rain’?” BTW, anybody wanna tell me the correct way to punctuate that? But I looked it up, and was surprised to see it not only didn’t win, it wasn’t even nominated for the Best Picture Oscar. And the Golden Globes had a separate category for Musicals, so it didn’t even have to compete with the dramas, and it didn’t win a GG for best musical/comedy, either. In many, many, polls, it’s considered one of the top five films ever. ---
**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2012, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/84th-academy-awards-2012-ongoing-discussion-thread/613979/298 "2012-02-28T04:25:36Z")
> [@Equipoise](#): > > As happy as I am for the winners, Flying Books wasn’t my favorite to win. What was your favorite animated short? _Flying Books_ was my favorite _easily_. Second favorite would have been the one with the chicken on a morning stroll. The others, while decent, didn’t even come close. ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2012, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/84th-academy-awards-2012-ongoing-discussion-thread/613979/299 "2012-02-28T05:52:09Z")
TonySinclair, I understand what you mean about being surprised that Singin’ In The Rain (that’s how it is on the [IMDB page](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0045152/)) not only didn’t win but wasn’t even nominated, and it’s a good reason why I don’t think it’s worth getting too worked up about who’s nominated or who wins or loses. Few people remember from year to year what won or was nominated. I’m an Oscar freak and even I don’t remember. Often. To me Brokeback Mountain won. To me The Social Network won. Yeah, not officially, but that’s how I choose to remember the Oscars. What does it matter? Not much. It only matters in the moment and for a few months before and after. Over time, people forget, until they look up the results, like you did. I didn’t realize that Singin’ In The Rain hadn’t even been nominated either. > [@bienville](#): > > What was your favorite animated short? _Flying Books_ was my favorite _easily_. Second favorite would have been the one with the chicken on a morning stroll. That’s it, A Morning Stroll was my favorite. That was so strange and wonderful and sick and twisted and funny, I was hoping it would win. It did win the BAFTAS, which was nice. I agree none of the others came close. The Animated presentation in the theater showed some shorts that were not nominated and a couple of those were favorites too. ---
**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2012, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/84th-academy-awards-2012-ongoing-discussion-thread/613979/300 "2012-02-28T07:08:00Z")
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