# 85th Academy Awards viewing thread

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [February 24, 2013, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/85th-academy-awards-viewing-thread/651279 "2013-02-24T19:12:18Z")\
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**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 7:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/85th-academy-awards-viewing-thread/651279/501 "2013-02-25T07:48:19Z")

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I’ve lived in California since 1999. I don’t remeber the Oscars ever not being live. I’ve always sat down in front of the T.V. late afternoon. In fact, I remember one year I had forgotten it was Oscar day. I was in a sheet music store mid-afternoon, and the owner was closing early that day and was getting _very_ upset with me taking my time. He didn’t say anything about why he was closing so early but I figured it out and I myself went home to watch on T.V.

ETA: First Post on a new page, I win a puppy!

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 8:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/85th-academy-awards-viewing-thread/651279/502 "2013-02-25T08:26:30Z")

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With Ben Affleck winning for Best Picture[sup]\*[/sup] and previously for Best Original Screenplay, and still the potential to win for acting and directing, I was curious who had won Oscars in the most different categories. Typing “who has won oscars in the most different categories”, the first result is a SDMB thread.

- He still didn’t thank Kevin Smith.

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**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 8:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/85th-academy-awards-viewing-thread/651279/503 "2013-02-25T08:56:24Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> I was curious who had won Oscars in the most different categories.

[Unless I’m just not seeing it, it doesn’t seem to be on the Wiki page for Academy Award Records.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academy_Award_records#Miscellaneous_records)  
Someone interviewed Clooney on the red carpet, and I _think_ asked him about tying the record for most _nominations_ in different categories but [this is only his second win](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_awards_and_nominations_received_by_George_Clooney#Wins) (the other being Supporting Actor for _Syriana_). During that red carpet interview, I believe the other record holder that Clooney was said to be tying was Walt Disney.

[Walt Disney had Wins in the following categories:](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Academy_Awards_for_Walt_Disney)  
[ul]  
[li]Best Short Subject (Cartoon)[/li][li]Best Short Subject (Two-Reel)_[/li][li]Best Documentary (Feature)[/li][li]Best Documentary (Short Subject)[/li][li]Best Short Subject (Live Action)_[/li][/ul]

\*For the purpose of tallying up records, Best Short Subject (Two-Reel) and Best Short Subject (Live Action) could justly be counted as one category. The Live Action Short award as we now know it used to be split into Best Short Subject (One-Reel) and Best Short Subject (Two-Reel). So, Walt has 4 category wins by my count.

The record for nominations referred to in the interview was 6.  
Walt Disney also had one nomination for Best Picture, which by my tally brings his total to 5- so they must be counting Best Short Subject (Two-Reel) and Best Short Subject (Live Action) separately in order to bring Walt up to 6.

Clooney’s 6 are:  
[ul]  
[li]Best Picture (Win)[/li][li]Best Supporting Actor (Win)[/li][li]Best Actor[/li][li]Best Director[/li][li]Best Adapted Screenplay[/li][li]Best Original Screenplay[/li][/ul]

As to the question of most different category _WINS_, I’m not prepared to answer that yet. If 6 is the record for nominations, and if we count Walt Disney at 5 category wins rather than 4, then I’m sure he has the record. The only other possibility is another person with 5 category nominations that actually won in all 5 categories. If we count Walt only at 4, then there’s a possibility that there’s a 5 out there who has him beat.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 9:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/85th-academy-awards-viewing-thread/651279/504 "2013-02-25T09:26:10Z")

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The previous thread is [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=237664) (from 2004), and Walt Disney seems to be considered the leader there, too. The changes in categories make a direct comparison tricky, though. Also worth mentioning are Francis Ford Coppola (Picture, Director, Adapted Screenplay (_The Godfather: Part 2_) Original Screenplay[sup]\*[/sup] (_Patton_)) and Billy Wilder (Picture, Director, Original Screenplay (_The Apartment_)). Wilder also won “Best Writing, Story and Screenplay” for _Sunset Blvd._, but that appears to be analogous to the Original Screenplay category.

- Strictly speaking “Screenplay Based on Factual Material or Material Not Previously Published or Produced”.

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 9:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/85th-academy-awards-viewing-thread/651279/505 "2013-02-25T09:42:01Z")

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I guess I’m alone on this one, but I thought Shirley Bassey missed two out of every three notes.

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**Author:** ![newcomer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e5b9ba/32.png) [@newcomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/newcomer)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/85th-academy-awards-viewing-thread/651279/506 "2013-02-25T12:31:45Z")

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> [@asterion](#):
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> So, how long before we get the conspiracy theories that Argo didn’t actually win because Obama?

Um, Argo won because of corrupt… ahem… vote buying… ummm… extensive lobbying.

If they spent all that “lobby” money making a better movie maybe they’d win clean.

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**Author:** ![newcomer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e5b9ba/32.png) [@newcomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/newcomer)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/85th-academy-awards-viewing-thread/651279/507 "2013-02-25T12:36:35Z")

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> [@Wheelz](#):
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> _Lincoln_ seemed like a mortal lock for Best Picture a month or so ago,\*\* then for whatever reason the tide started turning\*\*. I really liked _Argo_, but I was still rooting for Abe and company.

Oh, man… 😃

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**Author:** ![The\_Vorlon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d07c76/32.png) [@The\_Vorlon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Vorlon)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/85th-academy-awards-viewing-thread/651279/508 "2013-02-25T12:52:25Z")

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> [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](#):
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> She looks downright put out. And she’s only 22.

Nice black and blue on the left arm. Who does she think she is, Rhiannon?

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**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/85th-academy-awards-viewing-thread/651279/509 "2013-02-25T13:06:14Z")

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> [@The\_Vorlon](#):
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> Nice black and blue on the left arm. Who does she think she is, Rhiannon?

Is this a Fleetwood Mac joke, or did you violently assault the spelling of [Rihanna](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rihanna)?

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**Author:** ![The\_Vorlon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d07c76/32.png) [@The\_Vorlon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Vorlon)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/85th-academy-awards-viewing-thread/651279/510 "2013-02-25T13:08:57Z")

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> [@bienville](#):
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> Is this a Fleetwood Mac joke, or did you violently assault the spelling of [Rihanna](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rihanna)?

That’s what I get for posting pre-coffee…

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**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/85th-academy-awards-viewing-thread/651279/511 "2013-02-25T13:32:12Z")

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> [@TonySinclair](#):
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> I guess I’m alone on this one, but I thought Shirley Bassey missed two out of every three notes.

I thought so, too. Really rough start. It got a little better by the end, but only a little.

My, my, isn’t the Emperor’s Coat just lovely?!

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/85th-academy-awards-viewing-thread/651279/512 "2013-02-25T13:53:37Z")

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Can’t look it up easily from my phone, but isn’t Warren Beatty the person with the most categories nominated/won?

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**Author:** ![Rollo\_Tomasi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/58956e/32.png) [@Rollo\_Tomasi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rollo_Tomasi)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/85th-academy-awards-viewing-thread/651279/513 "2013-02-25T13:59:20Z")

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> [@Bob Ducca](#):
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> Can’t look it up easily from my phone, but isn’t Warren Beatty the person with the most categories nominated/won?

No, he’s tied at five with a few other people (although Kenneth Branagh is the only one I can think of off the top of my head). Clooney broke the record this year with his Best Picture nomination, his sixth category.

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/85th-academy-awards-viewing-thread/651279/514 "2013-02-25T13:59:57Z")

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With Argo, Clooney now has nods in 6 different categories which is a record. There were several tied at the 5-category mark until this year.

[http://m.hitfix.com/in-contention/george-clooney-poised-to-break-an-oscar-record-with-argo](http://m.hitfix.com/in-contention/george-clooney-poised-to-break-an-oscar-record-with-argo)

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/85th-academy-awards-viewing-thread/651279/515 "2013-02-25T14:29:54Z")

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Man, I love me the Oscars. General thoughts:

1. I thought Seth was fine. His monologue / opening skit was a little edgy (We saw your boobs!) but overall I thought he was appropriately respectful of the show.

2. I _loved_ the return to more song-and-dancing which had been trimmed back in recent years. Seth has a great voice (he released an album of standards last year), and I liked hearing the familiar music from _Chicago, Dreamgirls, Les Miz,_ and the Bond movies. Some of the sound mixing was off, though, and though Shirely Bassey is cool as hell she doesn’t have the pipes she used to.

3. It seemed like there were a lot of minor- to middling upsets. J-Law over Riva was the biggest surprise, but I have no beef with that. I love Walz but I really don’t think he deserved it this time - it should have gone to DeNiro IMO. _Wreck-it Ralph_ also deserved the win.

4. Did not like Jennifer L’s big dress. Too much neck too, I think. But I didn’t see any spectacularly enduring wardrobe choices this year.

5. The _Sound of Music_ joke made me laugh harder than anything else I’ve seen on TV in a long time. I don’t know why but it made me so tickled.

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/85th-academy-awards-viewing-thread/651279/516 "2013-02-25T14:37:22Z")

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> [@Hermione](#):
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> And who knew Seth McFarlane had such a good singing voice?

Anyone who ever heard Brian sing on Family Guy???

Bad, tasteless Oscar joke: Yeah, Lewis won, but who was the first actor to get inside Lincoln’s head? John Wilkes Booth.

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**Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/85th-academy-awards-viewing-thread/651279/517 "2013-02-25T14:46:06Z")

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> [@Hermione](#):
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> And who knew Seth McFarlane had such a good singing voice?

Anyone who is aware of the [album he released of him singing song standards](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_Is_Better_Than_Words).

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/85th-academy-awards-viewing-thread/651279/518 "2013-02-25T14:52:11Z")

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> [@Annie-Xmas](#):
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> Bad, tasteless Oscar joke: Yeah, Lewis won, but who was the first actor to get inside Lincoln’s head? John Wilkes Booth.

Seth beat you to that joke.

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**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/85th-academy-awards-viewing-thread/651279/519 "2013-02-25T14:59:40Z")

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> [@Annie-Xmas](#):
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> Anyone who ever heard Brian sing on Family Guy???
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> Bad, tasteless Oscar joke: Yeah, Lewis won, but who was the first actor to get inside Lincoln’s head? John Wilkes Booth.

That wasn’t so much a stand-alone joke as it was a lead-in the the “Too soon?” line.

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**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/85th-academy-awards-viewing-thread/651279/520 "2013-02-25T15:01:36Z")

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> [@newcomer](#):
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> Oh, man… 😃

What, what’d I say?  
I know very little of the politics behind Oscar voting, but all I kept hearing after the noms were announced was that there’s no way _Lincoln_ won’t win. _Argo_’s Golden Globe was a big surprise, and then suddenly _Lincoln_ wasn’t such a lock anymore.

Not that I’m terribly upset over the outcome, I just don’t know why everybody was so wrong initially, and why _Argo_ rose up over the early favorite.

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