# 85th Academy Awards viewing thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/85th-academy-awards-viewing-thread/651279>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [February 24, 2013, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/85th-academy-awards-viewing-thread/651279 "2013-02-24T19:12:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Hermione](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/cdc98d/32.png) [@Hermione](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hermione)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/85th-academy-awards-viewing-thread/651279/521 "2013-02-25T15:07:34Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> Anyone who is aware of the [album he released of him singing song standards](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_Is_Better_Than_Words).

I’ll have to look it up. I’m not a Family Guy watcher, so I wasn’t quite aware of that either.

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**Author:** ![It\_s\_Not\_Rocket\_Surgery](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/it_s_not_rocket_surgery/32/312_2.png) [@It\_s\_Not\_Rocket\_Surgery](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/It_s_Not_Rocket_Surgery)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/85th-academy-awards-viewing-thread/651279/522 "2013-02-25T15:37:13Z")

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> [@Wheelz](#):
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> What, what’d I say?  
> I know very little of the politics behind Oscar voting, but all I kept hearing after the noms were announced was that there’s no way _Lincoln_ won’t win. _Argo_’s Golden Globe was a big surprise, and then suddenly _Lincoln_ wasn’t such a lock anymore.
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> Not that I’m terribly upset over the outcome, I just don’t know why everybody was so wrong initially, and why _Argo_ rose up over the early favorite.

I think that Affleck’s Best Director snub caused a backlash that eventually turned the tide towards _Argo._ Also, the Academy hates to give awards to Spielberg movies. He’s now directed three or four Oscar favorites that all lost (at least _Lincoln, The Color Purple_, and _Saving Private Ryan_).

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/85th-academy-awards-viewing-thread/651279/523 "2013-02-25T16:41:49Z")

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> [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> What’s with the vampire girl? She sounds like she wants to kill herself.

What a jerk she is. If you don’t want to be there, don’t, but don’t get up there and look like an asshole. Ugh.

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/85th-academy-awards-viewing-thread/651279/524 "2013-02-25T16:48:44Z")

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> [@gigi](#):
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> What a jerk she is. If you don’t want to be there, don’t, but don’t get up there and look like an asshole. Ugh.

That’s just how she is all the time.

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/85th-academy-awards-viewing-thread/651279/525 "2013-02-25T17:11:17Z")

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_Argo_ won because it is partially about Hollywood, and Hollywood loves movies about Hollywood. Add in the Ben Affleck getting snubbed factor and that’s your formula. Now I have not gotten around to see may of the other movies, so I cannot say what should have won, but _Argo_ was a highly competent, by-the-numbers, entertaining film that does not seem that special to me.

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**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/85th-academy-awards-viewing-thread/651279/526 "2013-02-25T18:05:32Z")

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> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#):
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> _Argo_ won because it is partially about Hollywood, and Hollywood loves movies about Hollywood. Add in the Ben Affleck getting snubbed factor and that’s your formula. Now I have not gotten around to see may of the other movies, so I cannot say what should have won, but _Argo_ was a highly competent, by-the-numbers, entertaining film that does not seem that special to me.

It was also a very good movie, my favorite of all those nominated. I have no problem at all with it winning.

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**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/85th-academy-awards-viewing-thread/651279/527 "2013-02-25T18:31:07Z")

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> [@bienville](#):
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> I’ve lived in California since 1999. I don’t remeber the Oscars ever not being live. I’ve always sat down in front of the T.V. late afternoon. In fact, I remember one year I had forgotten it was Oscar day. I was in a sheet music store mid-afternoon, and the owner was closing early that day and was getting _very_ upset with me taking my time. He didn’t say anything about why he was closing so early but I figured it out and I myself went home to watch on T.V.
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> ETA: First Post on a new page, I win a puppy!

Yes, the Oscars are one of the very few “live” shows, aside from sports events, that are not tape-delayed for the West Coast, and they have been live for many years.

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**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/85th-academy-awards-viewing-thread/651279/528 "2013-02-25T18:45:43Z")

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> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#):
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> _Argo_ won because it is partially about Hollywood, and Hollywood loves movies about Hollywood. Add in the Ben Affleck getting snubbed factor and that’s your formula. Now I have not gotten around to see may of the other movies, so I cannot say what should have won, but _Argo_ was a highly competent, by-the-numbers, entertaining film that does not seem that special to me.

People say that Hollywood loves movies about Hollywood, and I’m sure that’s true, but as far as I can tell very few Best Pictures are actually about the movies. Maybe “The Artist” from last year. But before that the previous Best Picture winner that was about the movies was “All About Eve”, back in 1950, from what I can tell.

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/85th-academy-awards-viewing-thread/651279/529 "2013-02-25T18:57:42Z")

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> [@Bob Ducca](#):
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> That’s just how she is all the time.

I guess it’s the producers’ fault for even inviting her, especially to present with Daniel Radcliffe who was actually good-natured about it all.

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**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/85th-academy-awards-viewing-thread/651279/530 "2013-02-25T19:03:33Z")

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I’ve never seen the Harry Potter movies or anything, but it looked to me like Daniel Radcliffe was just enjoying the ever lovin’ shit out of the whole thing. I think he was having the most fun of anybody last night.

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/85th-academy-awards-viewing-thread/651279/531 "2013-02-25T22:15:45Z")

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20 hours later I’m still thinking about how hard I want to slap Kristen Stewart for making a bitchface every time she was on camera. I hope her 15 minutes are about up.

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/85th-academy-awards-viewing-thread/651279/532 "2013-02-25T22:44:46Z")

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Sorry to double-post on K-Stew, but I just learned that on Saturday [she won the Razzie Award for Worst Actress](http://popwatch.ew.com/2013/02/24/the-razzies-twilight/?hpt=hp_t4). Maybe she has no sense of humor.

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**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/85th-academy-awards-viewing-thread/651279/533 "2013-02-25T22:55:26Z")

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> [@suranyi](#):
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> People say that Hollywood loves movies about Hollywood, and I’m sure that’s true, but as far as I can tell very few Best Pictures are actually about the movies. Maybe “The Artist” from last year. But before that the previous Best Picture winner that was about the movies was “All About Eve”, back in 1950, from what I can tell.

Look beyond the winners to the nominees. Look how many are either set in LA, or have plots or subplots involving the performance arts.

Also, there are movies like _Shakespeare in Love_ which, though not ostensibly about Hollywood, is peppered with inside jokes for those in The Industry.

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**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2013, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/85th-academy-awards-viewing-thread/651279/534 "2013-02-26T00:47:14Z")

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> [@suranyi](#):
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> Yes, the Oscars are one of the very few “live” shows, aside from sports events, that are not tape-delayed for the West Coast, and they have been live for many years.

Huh, maybe I’m thinking of other award shows then, like the Grammy’s or something. I recall a lot of time being irritated that a show being recorded in my zip code and broadcast elsewhere wasn’t going to get to me for another two hours. Doesn’t explain why my friend on Facebook didn’t know what was going on, though. Maybe she’s just stupid.

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**Author:** ![SpoilerVirgin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4491bb/32.png) [@SpoilerVirgin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpoilerVirgin)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2013, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/85th-academy-awards-viewing-thread/651279/535 "2013-02-26T01:16:24Z")

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> [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> Huh, maybe I’m thinking of other award shows then, like the Grammy’s or something. I recall a lot of time being irritated that a show being recorded in my zip code and broadcast elsewhere wasn’t going to get to me for another two hours. Doesn’t explain why my friend on Facebook didn’t know what was going on, though. Maybe she’s just stupid.

Yes, every other awards show, Emmys, Grammys, Golden Globes, etc. is tape delayed on the West Coast, but the Oscars is still a holdout. I have watched all but one Oscar ceremony since 1972, almost all of them in California, in part because I can watch without having to stay up too late. (I realized last night that I was watching my _40th_ Oscar telecast! ) :eek:

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2013, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/85th-academy-awards-viewing-thread/651279/536 "2013-02-26T02:25:22Z")

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I’ve already mentioned my bafflement over the rave reviews for Shirley Bassey’s IMO very off-key performance, but it did change my thinking about something else.

I have long thought that the fact that _To Sir, With Love_ wasn’t even nominated for a “Best Original Song” Oscar was the worst mistake in my admittedly very limited knowledge of the history of Best Song Oscars, but not nominating _Goldfinger_ might have matched it. The songs that _ **were** _ nominated in the same year included _What’s New, Pussycat?_ and _The Ballad of Cat Ballou._

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2013, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/85th-academy-awards-viewing-thread/651279/537 "2013-02-26T03:22:45Z")

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I almost forgot!

WTH was wrong with Jack Nicholson? He’s supposed to be this super-suave bad boy of the geriatric set, but that suit looked about four sizes too big for him and then his presentation of the First Lady was almost incomprehensible.

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**Author:** ![corkboard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@corkboard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/corkboard)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2013, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/85th-academy-awards-viewing-thread/651279/538 "2013-02-27T19:40:07Z")

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I know I’m way late to the party here (just watched the show last night as I was traveling Sunday night), but I was surprised to see Renee Zellweger with such an ample chest. I recall from _Chicago_ she had essentially nothing up top, but she filled that dress rather unnaturally. I don’t think it was simple padding; it looked surgical. Has she had augmentation?

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2013, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/85th-academy-awards-viewing-thread/651279/539 "2013-02-27T19:50:35Z")

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> [@corkboard](#):
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> I know I’m way late to the party here (just watched the show last night as I was traveling Sunday night), but I was surprised to see Renee Zellweger with such an ample chest. I recall from _Chicago_ she had essentially nothing up top, but she filled that dress rather unnaturally. I don’t think it was simple padding; it looked surgical. Has she had augmentation?

With as much botox that she has shot into her face, I wouldn’t be surprised to find out that she’s had other work done. [Here’s a pic from the Oscars](http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1007072/thumbs/o-RENEE-ZELLWEGER-OSCAR-DRESS-2013-570.jpg?5), and I agree she seems a bit enhanced.  
ETA: [Here’s an article w/ before & after shots](http://plasticsurgerystar.com/renee-zellweger-before-and-after-breast-implants) and it says that it’s “no secret” that she had the work done in 2010. She went from a 34B to a D cup.

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**Author:** ![corkboard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@corkboard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/corkboard)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2013, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/85th-academy-awards-viewing-thread/651279/540 "2013-02-27T20:10:58Z")

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I guess I’m further out of the celebrity news loop than I thought.

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