# 86 Dead and Counting. Where was the Common Sense? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 21, 2003, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/86-dead-and-counting-where-was-the-common-sense/156611 "2003-02-21T20:17:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![DoctorJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctorj/32/2904_2.png) [@DoctorJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DoctorJ)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2003, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/86-dead-and-counting-where-was-the-common-sense/156611/121 "2003-02-24T22:40:59Z")
I was checking out the All Music Guide entry for Great White. Check this out: 1993 The Best of Great White: 1986-1992 1998 Rock Me (complation of hits) 2000 Latest & Greatest (half new material, half old stuff) 2000 The Best of Great White 2001 Greatest Hits 2001 Rock Champions (compilation of hits) How many Greatest Hits compilations does one band need–especially when it’s a band that only really had one hit? (There are also about four live albums in there.) ---
**Author:** ![The\_Peyote\_Coyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5f8ce5/32.png) [@The\_Peyote\_Coyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Peyote_Coyote)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2003, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/86-dead-and-counting-where-was-the-common-sense/156611/122 "2003-02-24T23:55:49Z")
> [@](#): > > * * * > > Originally posted by The Peyote Coyote > Ace, does it ever occur to you that people at a nightclub might have been a trifle intoxicated? I don’t know about righteous people like yourself, but I drink when I go into bars & night clubs. > > ## Hell, I’ve seen nights where I would have been so stoned and drunk that I would have applauded a fire, at least until I realized what it was. In which case, I probably would have been dead. > > Sure, stone yourself comatose, but don’t think that somehow makes you less responsible for your actions, barring someone somehow lacing your hydroponic B.C. shipment. I never said being drunk and/or stoned absolved me of responsibility, asswipe, I merely said people might be a trifle slow to react in such a condition. Obviously, your reading comprehension skills are on a level with your compassion: non-existent. ---
**Author:** ![II\_Gyan\_II](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/bbe5ce/32.png) [@II\_Gyan\_II](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/II_Gyan_II)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2003, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/86-dead-and-counting-where-was-the-common-sense/156611/123 "2003-02-25T00:27:14Z")
The article I talked about earlier, has been posted [here](http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2003/2/23/153446/542). Worth a read. ---
**Author:** ![okielady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/fbc32d/32.png) [@okielady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/okielady)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2003, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/86-dead-and-counting-where-was-the-common-sense/156611/124 "2003-02-25T18:49:13Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by tlw \* > **CNN is currently reporting that the club owners and Great White are disputing whether or not there was an OK to use the pyro – the band is claiming that it was not only known, it was approved. I can’t see why any club owner would approve of such a thing – they’re not going to lose money if there are no pyros, they may lose everything if there are. It’s an easy question to answer.** New evidence from 2 other bands (video evidence provided) seems to show the contrary. Maybe they really _didn’t_ know this time that pyrotechnics would be used, but they’ve not only allowed it in the past, but encouraged it. [Cite.](http://www.msnbc.com/news/876481.asp?0sl=-13) ---
**Author:** ![OxyMoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e9a140/32.png) [@OxyMoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OxyMoron)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2003, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/86-dead-and-counting-where-was-the-common-sense/156611/125 "2003-02-25T21:12:39Z")
The New York Times reports today that according to local authorities, the brothers are not cooperating in the investigation. Now, by itself that’s not an admission of anything - all it means is that they have a decent lawyer. But if they had something exculpatory lying around, I expect they’d have produced it pretty quickly. Boy, is this going to get ugly. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2003, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/86-dead-and-counting-where-was-the-common-sense/156611/126 "2003-02-25T21:29:50Z")
Yeah, but how do you get proof that you DIDN’T do something? ---
**Author:** ![II\_Gyan\_II](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/bbe5ce/32.png) [@II\_Gyan\_II](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/II_Gyan_II)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2003, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/86-dead-and-counting-where-was-the-common-sense/156611/127 "2003-02-26T00:26:09Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Boyo Jim \* > \*\*Yeah, but how do you get proof that you DIDN’T do something? \*\* Generally, you can’t. But, hypothetically, you would say, if I did do something, I would do it a certain way and leave certain markers. Since those markers don’t exist, I didn’t do it. Of course, this is hardly infallible, but it can convince someone. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/86-dead-and-counting-where-was-the-common-sense/156611.md?page=6)