# 9-11 And Pot **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [February 20, 2003, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-and-pot/156266 "2003-02-20T03:58:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![saloman504](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@saloman504](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saloman504)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-and-pot/156266/1 "2003-02-20T03:58:12Z")
It seems like very day there is a new ad linking Marijuana to terrorism and I guess I would like to know if there have actually been any ties shown to the public that link bowls to bombs. I guess I have trouble buying the idea that there is such a direct link that exists. Does any one know how valid this is? ---
**Author:** ![saloman504](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@saloman504](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saloman504)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-and-pot/156266/2 "2003-02-20T05:09:33Z")
If there is in fact a link then wouldn’t this be an argument FOR legal government grown or regulated grass? ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-and-pot/156266/3 "2003-02-20T05:12:00Z")
Isn’t most pot in America from the Americas? (As far as drugs are concerned, I think they’d be more worried about opiates). What about gasoline though? ---
**Author:** ![joshmaker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a587f6/32.png) [@joshmaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joshmaker)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-and-pot/156266/4 "2003-02-20T05:27:40Z")
I remember reading news accounts that mentioned that the terrorists used marijuana the day of the attack, though I have no clue how they would know this. I don’t remember anything about the sale of marijuana being used to fund terrorist activities however. ---
**Author:** ![antechinus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/fbc32d/32.png) [@antechinus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/antechinus)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-and-pot/156266/5 "2003-02-20T06:38:47Z")
What!!! :eek: Are there ads showing on TV linking drugs and terrorists? What is going on over there? Is this true? ---
**Author:** ![Mehitabel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Mehitabel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mehitabel)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-and-pot/156266/6 "2003-02-20T07:01:57Z")
It’s actually pretty simple–money given away by self-indulgent middle-class white idiots goes to people who are ruthless bastards who affect neighborhoods here and abroad in horrible ways to keep the trade going. Some Americans are so sheltered and naive they deny this and are shocked when it’s pointed out to them, which the government is currently doing in a series of ads that show (actors) portraying children killed in drive-bys over drug turf and families killed in South America and such. And the opium-Taliban link is definite. I grew up in the Bronx. In the 1970s. I watched the neighborhoods burn. And drugs contributed to it–a lot of it, not all–and made some places here hells on earth. Legalization might alleviate it, but selfish people saying no to their need to feel goofy once in a while would STOP it. ---
**Author:** ![MysteryFellow63427](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e4f/32.png) [@MysteryFellow63427](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MysteryFellow63427)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-and-pot/156266/7 "2003-02-20T07:14:44Z")
The ads to which I think the the OP is referring are [available here](http://www.mediacampaign.org/mg/television.html), at the Office of National Drug Control Policy’s website. A related thread on this subject is [Stupidest anti-drug commercial yet](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=157328). **Mehitabel** , it’s not just “self-indulgent middle-class white idiots” who are drug abusers. Using ignorant invective isn’t a good way to prove a point. ---
**Author:** ![Mehitabel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Mehitabel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mehitabel)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-and-pot/156266/8 "2003-02-20T07:16:43Z")
Whoops, forgot the forum but this is something I feel strongly about. The “idiots” reference is not to anybody in this thread or anybody who disagrees with my stance. Just wanted to make it clear. I think the ads are saying that marijuana is part of a whole underground drug economy that funds a whole host of terrible things, that’s all. And when Joe Yuppie buys a dime bag, he’s contributing to it. And even if he doesn’t spend much money, it would be like him saying in relation to an assault, “Hey, those other guys raped her, all I did was yell at her and kick her in the ribs once.” Sorta misses the point that you’re not supposed to have attacked her to begin with. ---
**Author:** ![Mehitabel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Mehitabel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mehitabel)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-and-pot/156266/9 "2003-02-20T07:26:46Z")
And oh yeah, read a lot of 9/11 coverage and while some of the hijackers did seem to indulge in a bit of wine, women, and song before their deed, pot was never mentioned at all. ---
**Author:** ![Mothchunks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@Mothchunks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mothchunks)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 8:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-and-pot/156266/10 "2003-02-20T08:22:47Z")
pious Muslims aren’t supposed to DO drugs. Massacre innocents yes, but NEVER drugs. ---
**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 8:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-and-pot/156266/11 "2003-02-20T08:34:50Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Mehitabel \* > \*\*A…some of the hijackers did seem to indulge in a bit of wine, women, and song before their deed… \*\* To date, there aren’t any commercials stating the link between alcohol, sex, or singing to terrorism. Weird.:rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![compton\_homie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ea924/32.png) [@compton\_homie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/compton_homie)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 9:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-and-pot/156266/12 "2003-02-20T09:29:47Z")
i always thought marijuana made you more peacefull;j ---
**Author:** ![fezza](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/59ef9b/32.png) [@fezza](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fezza)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 10:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-and-pot/156266/13 "2003-02-20T10:42:33Z")
> [@](#): > > And the opium-Taliban link is definite Is it? The Taliban banned and burnt the opium crops. Now that Afghanistan is ‘free’ The farmers are able to return to growing their traditional crop. Pity I am on 56k and can’t see the ad. ---
**Author:** ![Ms2001](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ms2001/32/18463_2.png) [@Ms2001](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ms2001)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-and-pot/156266/14 "2003-02-20T11:05:34Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Mehitabel \* > **Whoops, forgot the forum but this is something I feel strongly about. The “idiots” reference is not to anybody in this thread or anybody who disagrees with my stance.** Well, it kinda is, if any of the posters to this thread use illegal drugs. > [@](#): > > **I think the ads are saying that marijuana is part of a whole underground drug economy that funds a whole host of terrible things, that’s all.** The link between buying drugs and funding terrorism is far less clear than the link between, say, paying taxes and funding police brutality or third world militias. The link between _marijuana_ and terrorism is even less evident, since a lot of marijuana consumed in the U.S. comes from the U.S., Canada, and Mexico. ---
**Author:** ![Blown\_Injected](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a87d85/32.png) [@Blown\_Injected](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blown_Injected)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-and-pot/156266/15 "2003-02-20T12:57:27Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Mehitabel \* > \*\*It’s actually pretty simple–money given away by self-indulgent middle-class white idiots goes to people who are ruthless bastards who affect neighborhoods here and abroad in horrible ways to keep the trade going. Some Americans are so sheltered and naive they deny this and are shocked when it’s pointed out to them, which the government is currently doing in a series of ads that show (actors) portraying children killed in drive-bys over drug turf and families killed in South America and such. And the opium-Taliban link is definite. > > I grew up in the Bronx. In the 1970s. I watched the neighborhoods burn. And drugs contributed to it–a lot of it, not all–and made some places here hells on earth. > > Legalization might alleviate it, but selfish people saying no to their need to feel goofy once in a while would STOP it. \*\* I Do Not Use Illegal Drugs! I have never heard of any turf wars or violence due to pot. Since, as other posters have pointed out, pot is not coming from terrorists. I’ll bet that the burning neighborhoods were due to coke and heroin, not pot. I do on occasion, compared to pot, use a much more powerful and harmful drug - Alcohol. ---
**Author:** ![superfreakicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@superfreakicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/superfreakicus)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-and-pot/156266/16 "2003-02-20T13:10:16Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by antechinus \* > \*\*What!!! :eek: > > Are there ads showing on TV linking drugs and terrorists? What is going on over there? Is this true? \*\* ahahaha… oh, you’re funny. yes. many. also, suv’s. basically, anything someone wishes to demonize is linked to terrorism. I expect that in about a year, or so, our gov will set up hearings to determine who is a terrorist sympathizer. I look forward to the next election period flooding the airwaves w/‘my opponent is soft on terrorism!!’ ---
**Author:** ![yme](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/35a633/32.png) [@yme](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yme)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-and-pot/156266/17 "2003-02-20T13:28:04Z")
I know a guy who grows his own for personal consumption, is he a supporting terrorism? ---
**Author:** ![superfreakicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@superfreakicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/superfreakicus)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-and-pot/156266/18 "2003-02-20T13:44:04Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by yme \* > \*\*I know a guy who grows his own for personal consumption, is he a supporting terrorism? \*\* does he drive an suv? ---
**Author:** ![yme](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/35a633/32.png) [@yme](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yme)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-and-pot/156266/19 "2003-02-20T14:00:39Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by superfreakicus \* > \*\*does he drive an suv? \*\* No, but his car has an LT1, with loud exhaust and scares the hell outta’ hondas. ---
**Author:** ![broccoli](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@broccoli](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/broccoli)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-and-pot/156266/20 "2003-02-20T14:23:28Z")
Watch… Soon cigarettes will be illegal, but pot will be sold by Marlboro. Everyone I’ve ever met who has smoked pot (and this is quite a number of people… enough that I can’t count them all) has procured their smokeage from American growers. I don’t know ANYONE who has got weed from anywhere outside of the US, with the exception of the Bahamas, which we might as well own anyways. I think those commercials are a joke. Had they used the commercials for other drugs than it would be easily plausible, but they had to go and try to scare 12 year olds… “If you buy pot, _you’re a terrorist!_” [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-and-pot/156266.md?page=2)