# 9/11 play list - help! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 24, 2002, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-play-list-help/125331 "2002-08-24T03:12:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Marvel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/779978/32.png) [@Marvel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvel)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2002, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-play-list-help/125331/1 "2002-08-24T03:12:25Z")
Let’s try this again… Greetings! 9/11/02 falls on a Wednesday, which is the day I do my 80s music radio show, “The Spandex Years.” I’m making a topic appropriate play list for the show and am open to suggestions (am willing to use songs from outside the 80s as well). Here’s what I’ve got so far… “The Star Spangled Banner” - Jimi Hendrix “Dear God” - XTC “Moments of Pleasure” - The Goddess Herself Kate Bush “What’s So Funny About Peace, Love and Understanding” - Elvis Costello “Bombs Away” - The Police (mentions Afghan-US relations) “Fragile” - Sting “Armageddon Days are Here (Again)” - The The “Panic” - The Smiths “Rock the Kasbah” - The Clash “Let’s All Make a Bomb” - Heaven 17 “Mad World” - Tears for Fears “Who Was That Man” - Nick Lowe “The Change” - Sad Loves and Giant “So Much Trouble” - Bob Marley “When Doves Cry” - Prince and the Revolution “The Sky’s gone Out” - Bauhaus End with Ofra Haza’s “Kaddish” Songs I WON’T do: “Killing an Arab” - The Cure “Its the End of the World as We Know It (And I Fell Fine)” - REM “Born in the USA” - Bruce Springsteen (too obvious) I need 20 to 25 songs to fill a two-hour show, so feel free to throw suggestions my way. Thanks! Patty ---
**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2002, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-play-list-help/125331/2 "2002-08-24T04:33:09Z")
Here’s a Tom Petty tune from 1989: > [@](#): > > Well I won’t back down, no I won’t back down > You can stand me up at the gates of hell > But I won’t back down > > Gonna stand my ground, won’t be turned around > And I’ll keep this world from draggin’ me down > Gonna stand my ground and I won’t back down Tom Petty, “Won’t Back Down”, **Full Moon Fever** ---
**Author:** ![Tanaqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3bc359/32.png) [@Tanaqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tanaqui)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2002, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-play-list-help/125331/3 "2002-08-24T05:38:12Z")
A local radio station played a live version of U2’s Pride (In the Name of Love) a few days after 9-11. I broke down in tears. I usually don’t go in for that kind of stuff, but the lines: > [@](#): > > Free at last, they took your life > But they could not take your pride still get me. It’s from the '80’s, isn’t it? I realize it’s not really about a 9-11 type of situation, but a “hymn dedicated to Martin Luther King” (as one website described it) is still pretty relevent on the anniversary of such acts of hatred, I’d think. Tanaqui ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2002, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-play-list-help/125331/4 "2002-08-24T06:04:56Z")
How 'bout “Cloudbusting” by Kate Bush? (Though that might not work considering it’s subject matter.) “Only Time Will Tell” Asia “Daylight” Asia “Short and Sweet” David Gilmour “Out of the Blue” David Gilmour “Land of the Living” Don Henley “Julia” Eurythmics “Cherish the Day” Sade “Ball of Confusion” Love & Rockets ---
**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2002, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-play-list-help/125331/5 "2002-08-24T06:18:33Z")
These picks are purely for subjective reasons but you may want to include: “Heroes” by David Bowie - I know it’s about the Berlin Wall but now, whenever I hear it I think of all the police and firefighters who gave all as well as Todd Beamer and the passengers aboard the airliner who prevented the plane from crashing into another building. “Last Good Day of the Year” by Cousteau - This song has nothing to do with the events of 9/11 but the title and feel of it just put me in mind of how everything just suddenly changed that morning. ---
**Author:** ![Violet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/ebca7d/32.png) [@Violet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Violet)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2002, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-play-list-help/125331/6 "2002-08-24T06:34:26Z")
Imagine ~ John Lennon ---
**Author:** ![red\_dragon60](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ce73a5/32.png) [@red\_dragon60](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/red_dragon60)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2002, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-play-list-help/125331/7 "2002-08-24T06:42:28Z")
I’d say Sunday, Bloody Sunday by U2. Poetic and sad song about violence and its consequences. How long, how long must we sing this song… ---
**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2002, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-play-list-help/125331/8 "2002-08-24T07:00:45Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by red\_dragon60 \* > \*\*I’d say Sunday, Bloody Sunday by U2. Poetic and sad song about violence and its consequences. > How long, how long must we sing this song… \*\* The 1916 Easter Uprising… [http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~socappeal/Connolly.html](http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~socappeal/Connolly.html) > [@](#): > > And on the Irish capitalists, “Therefore the stronger I am in my affection for national tradition, literature, language, and sympathies, the more firmly rooted I am in my opposition to that capitalist class which in its soulless lust for power and gold would bray the nations as in a mortar”. And again, “We are out for Ireland for the Irish. But who are the Irish? Not the rack-renting, slum-owning landlord; not the sweating, profit grinding capitalist; not the sleek and oily lawyer; not the prostitute pressmen - the hired liars of the enemy. Not these are the Irish upon whom the future depends. Not these, but the Irish working class, the only secure foundation upon which a free nation can be reared.” > > Writing on the need for an Irish insurrection to expel British imperialism he wrote in relation to the World War: “Starting thus, Ireland may yet set the torch to a European conflagration that will not burn out until the last throne and the last capitalist bond and debenture will be shrivelled on the funeral pyre of the last War lord.” > > As an answer to the demand for conscription which had been imposed in Britain and which was supported by the Irish capitalists for Ireland too, where the employers were exerting pressure to force Irish workers to volunteer, Connolly wrote: “We want and must have economic conscription in Ireland for Ireland. Not the conscription of men by hunger to compel them to fight for the power that denies them the right to govern their own country, but the conscription by an Irish nation of all the resources of the nation - its land, its railways, its canals, its workshops, its docks, its mines, its mountains, its rivers and streams, its factories and machinery, its horses, its cattle, and its men and women, all co-operating together under one common direction that gather under one common direction that Ireland may live and bear upon her fruitful bosom the greatest number of the freest people she has ever known.” > [@](#): > > The purpose of all war is ultimately peace.–Saint Augustine ---
**Author:** ![Sparrow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Sparrow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparrow)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2002, 7:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-play-list-help/125331/9 "2002-08-24T07:45:49Z")
Brothers in Arms - Dire Straits ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2002, 7:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-play-list-help/125331/10 "2002-08-24T07:52:24Z")
“Let’s Roll” - Neil Young “Jesus, etc.” - Wilco “The Rising” - Bruce Springsteen “The Envoy” - Warren Zevon ---
**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2002, 8:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-play-list-help/125331/11 "2002-08-24T08:29:11Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Marvel \* > \*\* > > Songs I WON’T do: > “Killing an Arab” - The Cure > > Patty \*\* [Killing an Arab - The Cure](http://www.lyricscafe.com/c/cure/boys_08.htm) You won’t play that song, huh? That song is about killing arabs? Perhaps it might occur to you that this the protagonist of this song is questioning the fallacy of the cultural hatred he had been taught and pondering his own fate. ---
**Author:** ![Bad\_Hat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f0a364/32.png) [@Bad\_Hat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bad_Hat)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2002, 9:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-play-list-help/125331/12 "2002-08-24T09:21:47Z")
i’m usually big on adding my two cents to music related threads, but as a) i am drunk a hell right now and b) i read your OP and was floored, i just wanted to chime in and say… That is a fucking great selection. if i heard that show, you would be my favorite. DJ. ever thats all bye ---
**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2002, 9:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-play-list-help/125331/13 "2002-08-24T09:52:03Z")
I cannot reply in a harsh manner at your weird selections, **Marvel** as I too love Kate Bush (The Goddess Herself in your words.) I haven’t heard The The’s 'Let’s all Make a Bomb in many a year!" The Cure song you won’t do is where our opinions bitterly part. Let’s compromise and include 'Cutting it Fine" - one of Asia’s bestest songs and Tuckerfan will join us in bliss. ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2002, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-play-list-help/125331/14 "2002-08-24T13:11:15Z")
“Let Us Live in Peace” and “My Kind of Love,” both from Andrew Lloyd Webber’s musical \*\* The Beautiful Game \*\*. People need love, that’s what we live for. Now is the time, it’s not too late. We have to love, try to forgive more. No child was ever born to hate. I will fight for peace with all my might. That’s what’s right. If you can find the CD with the trophy cup reflecting a child’s face, it’s the one with all the “naughty” words on it. The second US release, with the couple on it, was edited. ---
**Author:** ![KGS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/90ced4/32.png) [@KGS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KGS)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2002, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-play-list-help/125331/15 "2002-08-24T13:57:53Z")
**Billy Joel** “Miami 2017 (Seen the Lights Go Down on Broadway)” I swear, the lyrics are so close to what actually happened it’s eerie. Might hit a little close to home for what you’re planning, though. ---
**Author:** ![TelcontarStorm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3ab097/32.png) [@TelcontarStorm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TelcontarStorm)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2002, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-play-list-help/125331/16 "2002-08-24T14:42:11Z")
My brain ain’t workin’ yet, but how about **The Imigrant Song** by \*\* Elton John\*\* I include it \* just \*for the lines… There’s a man, over there. What’s his colour? I don’t care. He’s my brother. Let us live in peace. ---
**Author:** ![Marvel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/779978/32.png) [@Marvel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvel)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2002, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-play-list-help/125331/17 "2002-08-24T14:45:07Z")
WOW! My OT is less than a day old and I’ve already have lots of great suggestions! Thanks, everyone! Keep 'em coming! Some responses… Tanaqui and red\_dragon60: U2 and Sting/The Police are such good sources for this special I could ALMOST feature their songs exclusively. Right now, I’m wavering between “Sunday, Bloody Sunday” and “Pride (In the Name of Love).” I’ve decided not to play “Walk On” only because I’m sure the commercial stations will play it (and “Born in the USA”) to death on 9/11/02. NDP - David Bowie actually played an acoustic version of “Heroes” at the start of a 9/11 benefit concert, so it’s more than appropriate. FYI - “Fragile” was chosen not just because of the appropriate lyrics, but also Sting performed it live from Italy on the day of the attacks (he was doing a web-cast concert that day anyhow). Corbomite - My reason for not playing The Cure’s “Killing an Arab” aren’t what you think. I know its really about a scene from Albert Camus’ The Stranger (EXCELLENT novel! I once stayed up to 3:00 am to finish reading it) and it’s a commentary about what a shitty attitude the speaker has, BUT can you see why I wouldn’t want this played in the context of a 9/11 special? Imagine you’re channel surfing on the radio one morning, you’re not familiar with this tune and you hear the repeated line “killing an Arab” on the 9/11 anniversary. See the problem? I like this song as much as REM’s “It the End of the World as We Know It (and I Feel Fine),” but I feel they’d both be equally inappropriate in the context of this special. I have played both on other occasions. Bad Hat - Thanks for the compliment! Actually, you CAN hear my show if you have a decent computer with speakers. All shows are archived for one week at [http://www/wruw/org](http://www/wruw/org) starting about two or three hours after the show ends. If you can’t access the show this way, e-mail me at [p\_marvel@yahoo.com](mailto:p_marvel@yahoo.com) and I’ll see about dubbing an air check for you! KGS - Someone else recommended that Billy Joel song and I forgot to write it down. Thanks for reminding me. FYI - I know the station has most of the songs listed in the OT, but I’ve yet to check on the rest. HOPEFULLY I can play the Nick Lowe and Sad Loves and Giant ones. Again, thanks for your help! Keep the ideas flowing! Patty ---
**Author:** ![red\_dragon60](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ce73a5/32.png) [@red\_dragon60](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/red_dragon60)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2002, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-play-list-help/125331/18 "2002-08-24T19:57:55Z")
If you want to edge in on a technicality, The Offspring’s Tehran was released in '89 IIRC. An excellent song that I think I will be hearing a lot more of if and when we go into Iraq. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2002, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-play-list-help/125331/19 "2002-08-25T01:49:18Z")
You really should try to find “Jesus etc.” by Wilco. This song is just eerie. It was written just before Sept 11, and was already available publically before the attack. But look at these lyrics: - Tall buildings shake Voices escape singing sad sad songs tuned to chords Strung down your cheeks Bitter melodies turning your orbit around \* And later… \* Voices whine Skyscrapers are scraping together Your voice is smoking Last cigarettes are all you can get Turning your orbit around \* It’s also a beautiful song. Bookend that with “Let’s Roll”, written about Flight 93, and “The Envoy”, a song written about Philip Habib who used to be U.S. Envoy to the middle east. The lyrics start off, - Nuclear arms in the middle east. Israel’s attacking the Iraqis, The Syrians are mad at the Lebanese, And Baghdad does whatever it please… \* This was written around 1980… ---
**Author:** ![UNIMATRIXONE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/2bfe46/32.png) [@UNIMATRIXONE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UNIMATRIXONE)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2002, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-play-list-help/125331/20 "2002-08-25T01:59:25Z")
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