# 9/11 Story-true?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-story-true/418931>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [September 12, 2007, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-story-true/418931 "2007-09-12T16:57:57Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2007, 10:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-story-true/418931/21 "2007-09-13T10:20:49Z")

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[QUOTE=Green Bean]  
I mean, the police found material “connecting them” to AQ…well what was the nature of that material and what was the nature of the connection?  
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According to the show in question, fake ID’s were among the items found.

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2007, 10:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-story-true/418931/22 "2007-09-13T10:29:27Z")

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[QUOTE=Martiju]  
5 middle-eastern men rushed off a plane in an airport during probably the most heightened state of security the country had ever seen? And escaped? All of them?

My vote is for highly implausible, though not necessarily impossible.  
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Well the Bin Laden family were all allowed to leave in the days after - I believe they even made exceptions for their planes to fly in otherwise locked-down airspace.

That, I will never, ever understand. Sure, they disowned Osama, but don’t you think they might be good witnesses? Or have been lying?

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**Author:** ![Sublight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Sublight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sublight)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2007, 11:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-story-true/418931/23 "2007-09-13T11:32:29Z")

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[QUOTE=jjimm]  
Well the Bin Laden family were all allowed to leave in the days after - I believe they even made exceptions for their planes to fly in otherwise locked-down airspace.

That, I will never, ever understand. Sure, they disowned Osama, but don’t you think they might be good witnesses? Or have been lying?  
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They flew on September 20, seven days after the flight ban was lifted.

According to the 9/11 commission, “The FBI interviewed all persons of interest [Saudi nationals leaving the US] on these flights prior to their departures. They concluded that none of the passengers was connected to the 9/11 attacks and have since found no evidence to change that conclusion. Our own independent review of the Saudi nationals involved confirms that no one with known links to terrorism departed on these flights.”

and

“These flights were screened by law enforcement officials, primarily the FBI. For example, one flight, the so-called Bin Ladin flight, departed the United States on September 20 with 26 passengers, most of them relatives of Usama Bin Ladin… 22 of the 26 people on the Bin Ladin flight were interviewed by the FBI. Many were asked detailed questions. None of the passengers stated that they had any recent contact with Usama Bin Ladin or knew anything about terrorist activity.”

[Cite.](http://www.snopes.com/rumors/flights.asp)

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**Author:** ![Who\_me\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/958977/32.png) [@Who\_me\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Who_me_1)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2007, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-story-true/418931/24 "2007-09-13T11:40:15Z")

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> Perhaps, but Kirk is adamant that Ballinger did save the passengers and crew of United Flight 23, which on Sept. 11 was about to depart from Newark, N.J., to Los Angeles. Kirk believes Flight 23 was going to be commandeered.
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> Thanks to Ballinger’s quick call, the flight crew told passengers it had a mechanical problem and immediately returned to the gate.
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> Later, Ballinger was told six men initially wouldn’t get off the plane. Later, when they did, they disappeared into the crowd, never to return. Later, authorities checked their luggage and found copies of the Qu’ran and al-Qaida instruction sheets.

[http://www.house.gov/list/hearing/il10\_kirk/news040414\_flight.html](http://www.house.gov/list/hearing/il10_kirk/news040414_flight.html)  
With all the conspiracy crap on the web, sifting through the crap is a pain.

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**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2007, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-story-true/418931/25 "2007-09-13T11:58:30Z")

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> **An Gadaí** : I also heard the rumour that boxcutters or razors were found hidden, wedged in seats on planes that had landed that day but sure I never heard anything else about it so might just be UL.

Let’s say for a moment that what An Gadai\*\* said is right or nearly right. Wouldn’t it sound just like an arm of our government to decide to withhold this bit of information from the general public to avoid causing further panic that might bring economic disaster to the airline industry?

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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2007, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-story-true/418931/26 "2007-09-13T12:24:27Z")

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[QUOTE=Zoe]  
Wouldn’t it sound just like an arm of our government to decide to withhold this bit of information from the general public to avoid causing further panic that might bring economic disaster to the airline industry?  
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No, it wouldn’t. Planes crashed into buildings due to the element of surprise and the fact that hijacking was never used in this manner before. Once that has been exposed, box cutters and razor blades become, essentially, ineffective because no one is going to react the same way. There is no reason to withhold info like that; it would cause no further panic among the general public.

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