# 9/11 was an inside job **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [June 18, 2012, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-was-an-inside-job/625490 "2012-06-18T05:20:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-was-an-inside-job/625490/61 "2012-06-19T14:20:49Z")
Well, we have this glowing blue box laying around the lab. You can have that. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-was-an-inside-job/625490/62 "2012-06-19T15:56:34Z")
I’m depressed by the complete lack of orbs. ☹ The tragedy is, that last thread was mostly deleted, so I can’t even link to what I referenced. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![outlierrn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/outlierrn/32/3005_2.png) [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-was-an-inside-job/625490/63 "2012-06-19T17:56:44Z")
I find your lack of faith, disturbing. When I want to thwart the lawmakers, I wear a tinfoil vagina on my head. ---
**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-was-an-inside-job/625490/64 "2012-06-19T18:06:36Z")
> [@Repent](#): > > Here is a link to 2 1/2 hours of expert testimony from Architechs and engineers for 9/11 truth, demanding a second independant investigation into 9/11: > > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lw-jzCfa4eQ](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lw-jzCfa4eQ) > > Crime of the century, and they got away with it. Now two pointless wars and the patriot act later, they are still at large and no one is looking for them. I’d watch, but I’m hiding under my desk – damn black chopper’s circling my place! ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-was-an-inside-job/625490/65 "2012-06-19T18:56:45Z")
> [@Toucanna](#): > > Thanks, and whip it over here, pronto! I shall wear it with pride, for, as a new traditionalist, it is my duty, now for the future. One small nitpick: check out my user name. Q: Am I not a man? A: I am Toucann **a**! Ah, so you are clearly the Girl U Want. ---
**Author:** ![Fiddle\_Peghead](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddle_peghead/32/3506_2.png) [@Fiddle\_Peghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiddle_Peghead)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-was-an-inside-job/625490/66 "2012-06-19T20:53:12Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > No one is going to watch 2 and a half hours of video… It’s obvious you have no idea of the entertainment value of a good old-fashioned conspiracy theory. I’ll be watching! ---
**Author:** ![Fiddle\_Peghead](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddle_peghead/32/3506_2.png) [@Fiddle\_Peghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiddle_Peghead)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-was-an-inside-job/625490/67 "2012-06-19T21:06:41Z")
I’ll make just one vague report, because I don’t want to give any of the choice moments away, but only 15 minutes in and the disconnects, logical fallacies, and paranoid statements are already flying. Yep, this is going to be a good one. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-was-an-inside-job/625490/68 "2012-06-19T21:36:47Z")
Every time I see the thread title here I’m reminded of 9/11 Truthers changing this in mindless unison in New York with their vacuous expressions and stupid signs and tee shirts. :eek: Gah…need brain scrub! -XT ---
**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-was-an-inside-job/625490/69 "2012-06-19T23:39:41Z")
> [@outlierrn](#): > > When I want to thwart the lawmakers, I wear a tinfoil vagina on my head. I think you may have discovered something about the tinfoil life cycle. ---
**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-was-an-inside-job/625490/70 "2012-06-19T23:44:27Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > I’m depressed by the complete lack of orbs. ☹ > > The tragedy is, that last thread was mostly deleted, so I can’t even link to what I referenced. ☹ I was going to post something like “needs more orbs” when I first saw this thread but figured no one will get it. September 11th. Never forget… the orbs. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-was-an-inside-job/625490/71 "2012-06-20T00:29:20Z")
> [@drewtwo99](#): > > I was going to post something like “needs more orbs” when I first saw this thread but figured no one will get it. > > September 11th. Never forget… the orbs. Let me see what my orb says: (yeah, I have one of those “8 ball” knockoffs just for fun) [Shakes] CHANCES AREN’T GOOD Oh well, even them say to forget about them! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-was-an-inside-job/625490/72 "2012-06-20T01:47:27Z")
> [@Death\_of\_Rats](#): > > Well, we have this glowing blue box laying around the lab. You can have that. quibble: it’s _lying_ around the lab. I’ll take it! How does it work? Is it an Atlantean power crystal? Gosh have I ever wanted one of those! Or… will it turn me into Thor? My gf would really go for that 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-was-an-inside-job/625490/73 "2012-06-20T01:55:26Z")
> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#): > > quibble: it’s _lying_ around the lab. > > I’ll take it! How does it work? Is it an Atlantean power crystal? Gosh have I ever wanted one of those! Or… will it turn me into Thor? My gf would really go for that 🙂 [Shakes Orb] UNLIKELY 😃 The really funny thing is that those \*\*are \*\*the answers I’m getting from the orb. ---
**Author:** ![outlierrn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/outlierrn/32/3005_2.png) [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-was-an-inside-job/625490/74 "2012-06-20T05:25:08Z")
Reminds me of a Simpsons episode where Bart and his buddy get into a tussle, one of them grabs an 8-ball and smacks the other, shattering the 8-ball. Bart says, ‘whoa, I bet the 8-ball didn’t see that coming.’ ---
**Author:** ![Einsatzgroping](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Einsatzgroping](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Einsatzgroping)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-was-an-inside-job/625490/75 "2012-06-20T14:37:08Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > No one is going to watch 2 and a half hours of video in support of yet another **conspiracy theory** Conspire: to work together towards a common goal; to collude. Theorise: to propose a postion or explanation. The theory that 19, ragtag, fundamentalist, Arabic loons conspired to take down two of the United States’ most prominant symbols of capitalism, despite all of the US’ supposed overwhelming military might _and_ intelligence-gathering wherewhithal, is what we conventionally accept as the veridical account of the goings on of 9/11. Yet, despite all the evidence buttressing it, we off-the-cuff reject anything that does not fall into line with, what we now know was, a corrupt, incompetent, war mongering US administration’s spin on the incident in question. So, who is the real idiot: the theorist who possits plausible possibilities based on the available evidence -or- the automaton who swallows the holier-than-Swiis-cheese conspiracy fed to them by TPTB? ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-was-an-inside-job/625490/76 "2012-06-20T14:39:56Z")
Oh, I think I know who the real idiots are here, but I ain’t tellin’. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Regallag\_The\_Axe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/regallag_the_axe/32/445_2.png) [@Regallag\_The\_Axe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Regallag_The_Axe)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-was-an-inside-job/625490/77 "2012-06-20T14:46:12Z")
> [@outlierrn](#): > > When I want to thwart the lawmakers, I wear a tinfoil vagina on my head. > [@scabpicker](#): > > I think you may have discovered something about the tinfoil life cycle. You see, tin foil Timmy, tin foil men have a tin foil penis and tin foil women have a tin foil vagina. Sometimes when a tin foil man and a tin foil woman love each other… ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-was-an-inside-job/625490/78 "2012-06-20T14:57:15Z")
> [@Einsatzgroping](#): > > Conspire: to work together towards a common goal; to collude. > Theorise: to propose a postion or explanation. > > The theory that 19, ragtag, fundamentalist, Arabic loons conspired to take down two of the United States’ most prominant symbols of capitalism, despite all of the US’ supposed overwhelming military might _and_ intelligence-gathering wherewhithal, is what we conventionally accept as the veridical account of the goings on of 9/11. > > Yet, despite all the evidence buttressing it, we off-the-cuff reject anything that does not fall into line with, what we now know was, a corrupt, incompetent, war mongering US administration’s spin on the incident in question. > > So, who is the real idiot: the theorist who possits plausible possibilities based on the available evidence -or- the automaton who swallows the holier-than-Swiis-cheese conspiracy fed to them by TPTB? First, you are using a definition of “conspiracy theory” that is different from what I was talking about; I was speaking of the kind of irrational, faith based belief systems that are typically labeled “conspiracy theories”. That’s not the same thing as a theory about a conspiracy. And second, what these people claim is not “plausible”; many of their claims are outright false or impossible. > [@Regallag\_The\_Axe](#): > > You see, tin foil Timmy, tin foil men have a tin foil penis and tin foil women have a tin foil vagina. Sometimes when a tin foil man and a tin foil woman love each other… …they are assassinated by the Illuminati? ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-was-an-inside-job/625490/79 "2012-06-20T14:58:40Z")
> [@Einsatzgroping](#): > > So, who is the real idiot: the theorist who possits plausible possibilities based on the available evidence -or- the automaton who swallows the holier-than-Swiis-cheese conspiracy fed to them by TPTB? Is this a trick question? Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-was-an-inside-job/625490/80 "2012-06-20T15:00:39Z")
> [@Einsatzgroping](#): > > So, who is the real idiot: the theorist who possits plausible possibilities based on the available evidence -or- the automaton who swallows the holier-than-Swiis-cheese conspiracy fed to them by TPTB? I’ll take “The Theorists” for 100 Alex. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-was-an-inside-job/625490.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-was-an-inside-job/625490.md?page=5)