# 9/11 was an inside job **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [June 18, 2012, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-was-an-inside-job/625490 "2012-06-18T05:20:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![drachillix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/48db29/32.png) [@drachillix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drachillix)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-was-an-inside-job/625490/81 "2012-06-20T15:05:09Z")
> [@Mijin](#): > > A drive-by and a join date of Jun 2012… > > The Straight Dope’s war on ignorance is clearly a guerilla war. Just as an area like ground zero has apparently been pacified, a civilian dons a foil hat, does a drive-by attack then disappears back into the crowd. The igno-terrorists have won. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Veneriable\_Slacks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/838e76/32.png) [@Veneriable\_Slacks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Veneriable_Slacks)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-was-an-inside-job/625490/82 "2012-06-20T15:12:19Z")
> [@Repent](#): > > Here is a link to 2 1/2 hours of expert testimony from Architechs and engineers for 9/11 truth, demanding a second independant investigation into 9/11: > > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lw-jzCfa4eQ](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lw-jzCfa4eQ) > > Crime of the century, and they got away with it. Now two pointless wars and the patriot act later, they are still at large and no one is looking for them. Repent - I’m with you dude. I love good conspiracy theories - even bad ones. Don’t let all these coincidence theorists get you down. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-was-an-inside-job/625490/83 "2012-06-20T15:22:11Z")
> [@Einsatzgroping](#): > > Conspire: to work together towards a common goal; to collude. > Theorise: to propose a postion or explanation. We’ve spent a significant amount of this thread discussing what “Conspiracy Theory” actually means and how it is different from [dictionary definition of conspiracy] + [dictionary definition of theory]. We’ve also address (or at least I did) this nonsense about “the official story,” as if all the evidence came from one source. As to “who’s the idiot?” - I’ll just say it’s not the people with the facts and evidence and the theories that actually make sense and stand up to scrutiny. “Inside Job” CTs don’t have any of those qualities. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-was-an-inside-job/625490/84 "2012-06-20T15:24:24Z")
> [@outlierrn](#): > > I find your lack of faith, disturbing. > When I want to thwart the lawmakers, I wear a tinfoil vagina on my head. That would make you… _invisible to lawmakers!_ _rummages through kitchen drawers_ AAUGH! All I have is aluminum foil. Blast. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-was-an-inside-job/625490/85 "2012-06-20T15:28:28Z")
… Wait. There’s a difference between tin foil and aluminum foil? … The last 10 years of my life - WASTED! I must have looked like a fool! I can just hear the whispered conversations now… “Uh, why is that guy wearing aluminum foil on his head?” “He thinks it’s tin foil, which protects one from Harmful Government Rays.” “Well, shouldn’t we tell him he’s in danger?” “Naw, we need all the subjects we can… I mean, why bother?” ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-was-an-inside-job/625490/86 "2012-06-20T15:54:41Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > We’ve spent a significant amount of this thread discussing what “Conspiracy Theory” actually means and how it is different from [dictionary definition of conspiracy] + [dictionary definition of theory]. We’ve also address (or at least I did) this nonsense about “the official story,” as if all the evidence came from one source. Sorry, [all of that was in this thread.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=653850) It doesn’t matter much. Someone tries this rhetorical trick every time we discuss Conspiracy Theories and nobody else ever buys it. ---
**Author:** ![Veneriable\_Slacks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/838e76/32.png) [@Veneriable\_Slacks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Veneriable_Slacks)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-was-an-inside-job/625490/87 "2012-06-20T16:19:10Z")
Straight dopers are in obvious denial, as a whole. As a group, in general, you are in denial of the obvious. The evidence of WTC 7 being a controlled demolition is so obvious. The truth will set you free, unless you bury your head in the sand. This is my last post. I will not visit this site again. Bye bye, pompous morons, William C. Nixon B.S., Metallurgical Engineering, Illinios Institute of Technology, 1987 ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-was-an-inside-job/625490/88 "2012-06-20T16:20:48Z")
Door, ass, etc. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-was-an-inside-job/625490/89 "2012-06-20T16:23:58Z")
> [@Veneriable\_Slacks](#): > > This is my last post. I will not visit this site again. > > Bye bye, pompous morons, > > William C. Nixon > B.S., Metallurgical Engineering, Illinios Institute of Technology, 1987 Nothing builds trust and confidence like tossing out an insult then running away as you present your totally unsupported claim of professional credentials. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-was-an-inside-job/625490/90 "2012-06-20T16:27:02Z")
> [@Veneriable\_Slacks](#): > > Straight dopers are in obvious denial, as a whole. As a group, in general, you are in denial of the obvious. No we aren’t. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-was-an-inside-job/625490/91 "2012-06-20T16:29:52Z")
> [@Veneriable\_Slacks](#): > > Bye bye, pompous morons, > > William C. Nixon > B.S., Metallurgical Engineering, Illinios Institute of Technology, 1987 I may be a moron, but I am NOT pompous. Nars Glinley, BA, Public Administration, MBA, Information Systems ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-was-an-inside-job/625490/92 "2012-06-20T16:30:16Z")
[QUOTE=Veneriable Slacks] Straight dopers are in obvious denial, as a whole. As a group, in general, you are in denial of the obvious. The evidence of WTC 7 being a controlled demolition is so obvious. The truth will set you free, unless you bury your head in the sand. This is my last post. I will not visit this site again. Bye bye, pompous morons, William C. Nixon B.S., Metallurgical Engineering, Illinios Institute of Technology, 1987 [/QUOTE] Hilarious. 😛 It’s really, really convincing to come into a thread like this, toss out some ridiculous claims to credentials, a couple of insults, some unsupported claims, then tuck tail and bolt. It REALLY shows you’ve got evidence to back you up, and the courage to display it and let the chips fall where they may. -XT ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-was-an-inside-job/625490/93 "2012-06-20T16:31:00Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > No we aren’t. > > Regards, > Shodan Yes we are…but if you tell anybody, I’ll deny it. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-was-an-inside-job/625490/94 "2012-06-20T16:37:35Z")
> [@XT](#): > > Hilarious. 😛 I agree. **Marley23** , Millionaire, owner of a mansion and a yacht ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-was-an-inside-job/625490/95 "2012-06-20T16:37:51Z")
> [@Veneriable\_Slacks](#): > > The evidence of WTC 7 being a controlled demolition is so obvious. This silliness again? Anyone who believes that WTC 7 was a “controlled demolition” after ten years of actual evidence that it was not and all the errors that are found in the presentations of the wingnuts who spout that claim is just predisposed to embracing CTs and not really interested in the truth. > [@Veneriable\_Slacks](#): > > B.S., Metallurgical Engineering, Illinios Institute of Technology, 1987 IIT would probably would like their diploma back before their reputation gets tarnished. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-was-an-inside-job/625490/96 "2012-06-20T16:39:48Z")
> [@Einsatzgroping](#): > > The theory that 19, ragtag, fundamentalist, Arabic loons conspired to take down two of the United States’ most prominant symbols of capitalism, despite all of the US’ supposed overwhelming military might _and_ intelligence-gathering wherewhithal, is what we conventionally accept as the veridical account of the goings on of 9/11. Are you referring to the educated, world-traveling, well-funded Saudi nationals who carefully planned and prepared for years to execute something that the US military thought impossible and wasn’t prepared to defend against, and by persons who were not being watched by the proper government agencies, and who were taught how to defeat the system and avoid detection and had practiced it for a long time, and who used the all-important element of surprise (a la Pearl Harbor) yet achieved only 75% of their goals? ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-was-an-inside-job/625490/97 "2012-06-20T16:42:14Z")
I have found a [website](http://tinyurl.com/yg3k9ja) that illustrates that not only is the OP wrong, but so are all of you. And THIS guy is recognized by an **expert** by many on this very board. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-was-an-inside-job/625490/98 "2012-06-20T16:46:48Z")
> [@Musicat](#): > > Are you referring to the educated, world-traveling, well-funded Saudi nationals who carefully planned and prepared for years to execute something that the US military thought impossible and wasn’t prepared to defend against, and by persons who were not being watched by the proper government agencies, and who were taught how to defeat the system and avoid detection and had practiced it for a long time, and who used the all-important element of surprise (a la Pearl Harbor) yet achieved only 75% of their goals? Nah. Those guys were in the pay of the conspiracy to divert attention from the real Saudi terrorists. Who in turn were just window dressing to cover up the actions of FEMA ninjas. Who were in fact in the pay of agents of the USSR - oh come on, you didn’t think the USSR had _really_ fallen, did you? Those Commies are clever. ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-was-an-inside-job/625490/99 "2012-06-20T16:53:48Z")
> [@Nars\_Glinley](#): > > I may be a moron, but I am NOT pompous. > > Nars Glinley, > BA, Public Administration, MBA, Information Systems I, on the other hand, am almost unspeakably pompous. Dr. Stephen Fidelius PHD, Yale, 1988 Senior Curator of Enigmatic Paleontology, Miskatonic University 2002 - present Incumbent of the Carl Denham Chair of Applied Paleontology ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-was-an-inside-job/625490/100 "2012-06-20T17:05:14Z")
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