# 9/11 was an inside job **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [June 18, 2012, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-was-an-inside-job/625490 "2012-06-18T05:20:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2012, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-was-an-inside-job/625490/121 "2012-06-21T03:20:27Z")
lame joke previously taken durnit. nevermind ---
**Author:** ![I\_Know\_Nothing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f04885/32.png) [@I\_Know\_Nothing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Know_Nothing)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2012, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-was-an-inside-job/625490/122 "2012-06-21T03:25:26Z")
> [@Veneriable\_Slacks](#): > > Straight dopers are in obvious denial, as a whole. As a group, in general, you are in denial of the obvious. The evidence of WTC 7 being a controlled demolition is so obvious. > > The truth will set you free, unless you bury your head in the sand. > > This is my last post. I will not visit this site again. > > Bye bye, pompous morons, > > William C. Nixon > B.S., Metallurgical Engineering, Illinios Institute of Technology, 1987 It was not a controlled demolition. I\_Know\_Nothing Johnson B.S., Nutrition, University of Texas, 2000 ---
**Author:** ![Toucanna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3bc359/32.png) [@Toucanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toucanna)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2012, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-was-an-inside-job/625490/123 "2012-06-21T05:36:02Z")
> [@Einsatzgroping](#): > > {snip} The theory that 19, ragtag, fundamentalist, Arabic loons… Whom are you calling “ragtag”? Don’t you know that’s a racist stereotype and Oh, excuse me a second, gotta read this PM. [Emily Litella]“RagTAG”, not “head”? Ooh! Never mind![/Emily Litella] > [@Einsatzgroping](#): > > So, who is the real idiot…? Just a WAG on my part but, how about the one who doesn’t know the difference between “Arabic” and “Saudi”? ---
**Author:** ![Toucanna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3bc359/32.png) [@Toucanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toucanna)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2012, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-was-an-inside-job/625490/124 "2012-06-21T05:43:05Z")
> [@Musicat](#): > > Birds of a feather… Loons flock, don’t they? And most parrots. Did dodo birds? In seabirds, it’s called gull-ability. It’s true! I have a bunch of scientific initials associated with my name\*, so that qualifies me to speak on the matter. ---
**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2012, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-was-an-inside-job/625490/125 "2012-06-21T11:17:53Z")
> [@Toucanna](#): > > I have a bunch of scientific initials associated with my name… Me, too. RTFM, SNAFU and FUBAR. I’m qualified to speak on _anything._ ---
**Author:** ![Gedd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gedd/32/4938_2.png) [@Gedd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gedd)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2012, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-was-an-inside-job/625490/126 "2012-06-21T12:49:34Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > Not a doctor. Got a bachelor’s. Dang, I’m not doing so well in this thread. Think I’ll back off the allergy medication and check my hat for tears in the tin foil. ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2012, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-was-an-inside-job/625490/127 "2012-06-21T14:03:15Z")
When I took a close look at this issue, I concluded that there was no reason to suspect a conspiracy beyond the official story, regardless of that fishy smell surrounding the Bush Administration and its wars in the ME. I haven’t seen anything since to change my mind. **Try2B Comprehensive** Genius ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2012, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-was-an-inside-job/625490/128 "2012-06-21T14:39:36Z")
Not to totally hijack (ha!) an admittedly hilarious thread, but… > [@Gedd](#): > > B.A. Underwater Container Construction, ASU, 2012" If this is real, you should start an Ask Me thread. If not, and you were just making it up… :slinks away: ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2012, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-was-an-inside-job/625490/129 "2012-06-21T14:47:02Z")
> [@Anaamika](#): > > If this is real, you should start an Ask Me thread. If not, and you were just making it up… :slinks away: Well, I venture a guess that “underwater container construction” is related to the venerable academic field of [underwater basket weaving](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underwater_basket_weaving). ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2012, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-was-an-inside-job/625490/130 "2012-06-21T15:03:01Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > Everybody knows that the 9/11 demolition was the last step in the coverup of the Kennedy assassination. All the Kennedys, going back to Joe Jr. in WWII. That’s why they used exploding planes – kind of a retro tribute to the original assassins. No, no no. WTC7 was being used to temporarily house the alien bodies from Area 51. Unfortunately, there was a breech in the containment facilities, and alien viruses began to infect the staff. One brave soul was able to hit the “red” button, and an orbiting defense satellite was able to unleash a top-secret kenetic kill weapon, which slammed into the WTC7 at 57,000 miles per hour, which destroyed the alien virus and saved humanity. You can’t prove that I’m not right! ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2012, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-was-an-inside-job/625490/131 "2012-06-21T15:17:48Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Well, I venture a guess that “underwater container construction” is related to the venerable academic field of [underwater basket weaving](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underwater_basket_weaving). I figured…BUT they do build things underwater, and so I figured someone had to know what was going on. And here I was so hoping! Oh well. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2012, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-was-an-inside-job/625490/132 "2012-06-21T15:27:18Z")
Heck, it wouldn’t surprise me if there were whole academic fields of engineering that concentrate on structures that are built under water or (perhaps less exotically) built on land and designed to be submerged. [Caissons](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caisson_(engineering)) alone are pretty fascinating. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2012, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-was-an-inside-job/625490/133 "2012-06-21T16:18:43Z")
> [@Toucanna](#): > > I have a bunch of scientific initials associated with my name\*, so that qualifies me to speak on the matter. > > \*IUD, OCD, IBS, BPD, ASBO While most of those initials sound cute (I can never remember what I’m not supposed to do with The Crazy), wouldn’t the IBS negate the need for the IUD? d&r ---
**Author:** ![outlierrn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/outlierrn/32/3005_2.png) [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2012, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-was-an-inside-job/625490/134 "2012-06-21T16:28:02Z")
Did you hear about the dyslexic highway patrol man? He pulled some drunk over and tried to give him an IUD. Outlierrn D&R ---
**Author:** ![Toucanna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3bc359/32.png) [@Toucanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toucanna)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2012, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-was-an-inside-job/625490/135 "2012-06-22T03:18:00Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > …wouldn’t the IBS negate the need for the IUD?.. Initials were listed in the order in which they were “earned”. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Fool\_in\_the\_Rain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8491ac/32.png) [@Fool\_in\_the\_Rain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fool_in_the_Rain)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2012, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-was-an-inside-job/625490/136 "2012-06-22T13:05:09Z")
> [@Repent](#): > > Here is a link to 2 1/2 hours of expert testimony from Architechs and engineers for 9/11 truth, demanding a second independant investigation into 9/11: > > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lw-jzCfa4eQ](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lw-jzCfa4eQ) > > Crime of the century, and they got away with it. Now two pointless wars and the patriot act later, they are still at large and no one is looking for them. Ok Ok Ok…I repent I repent. I did it. I convinced Jeremy to turn his mysterious purple and green object into a brainwash machine and make one billion people fulfill my plans, and never speak of it. Jeremy then smuggled all the people from the planes to the Sea of Nothing, where they sing songs and write limericks. I feel better now. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![CoolHandCox](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coolhandcox/32/16233_2.png) [@CoolHandCox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CoolHandCox)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-was-an-inside-job/625490/138 "2012-06-23T07:17:03Z")
I NEVER post in these NUMEROUS threads. EVER. (But you can tell I read them by the CAPS). Until now. So, I read these threads, used to be to actually learn, then for fun, then for boredom, now not sure. One simple question, for the OP’er, or anyone who’s read _a lot_ of these threads. The phrase “inside job.” I"m just curious what “inside” means? I’ve never followed all the threads, but is it ever clear how deep “inside” means? i.e. President, Vice President, The Entire Republican Party is involved? Does “inside” mean some people I’m not aware of? I dunno, what does inside job mean. Inside what circle I guess, is ever established? ---
**Author:** ![sevenwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6de8d8/32.png) [@sevenwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sevenwood)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-was-an-inside-job/625490/139 "2012-06-23T12:14:54Z")
> [@CoolHandCox](#): > > I dunno, what does inside job mean. Inside what circle I guess, is ever established? Have you ever seen the movie “Alien”? ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-was-an-inside-job/625490/140 "2012-06-23T13:57:01Z")
I have a Masters degree in Science and can assure the Teeming Millions that 9/11 was not an inside job. The perpetrators were _not_ who the government blames, however. You’ll never get to first base unless you take a hard look at [these people](http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/17/sports/baseball/plumbers-in-the-outfield-meet-the-all-watergate-team.html). ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-was-an-inside-job/625490/141 "2012-06-23T21:22:29Z")
> [@CoolHandCox](#): > > I NEVER post in these NUMEROUS threads. EVER. (But you can tell I read them by the CAPS). > > Until now. > > So, I read these threads, used to be to actually learn, then for fun, then for boredom, now not sure. > > One simple question, for the OP’er, or anyone who’s read _a lot_ of these threads. The phrase “inside job.” I"m just curious what “inside” means? I’ve never followed all the threads, but is it ever clear how deep “inside” means? i.e. President, Vice President, The Entire Republican Party is involved? Does “inside” mean some people I’m not aware of? > > I dunno, what does inside job mean. Inside what circle I guess, is ever established? Inside as in the US government actively creating and participating in the plot. So for example the Pentagon being hit by a missile (because there’s no plane-shaped hole in the building like we know from Road Runner cartoons there should be) or Flight 93 being shot down by a secret government spy jet. The WTC itself was brought down by experimental orbs and/or a combination of magical thermite that leaves no trace of itself except the kind keyboard commandos can detect. And Larry Silverstein’s comment that the firefighters should “pull it” regarding WTC7 was some barely disguised code for “it’s your turn to take part in this conspiracy”. The hijackers themselves were either patsies or didn’t exist at all. Same for the passengers. The Bush administration was in on it but the Obama administration must be as well - the current administration is in a perfect position to know exactly what really happened and since they’re not using that knowledge to destroy the Republican party for a generation they must be in on it too. So basically the whole government is in on it, usually due to puppet masters in the corporate world and in conspiracy-central, Israel. And of course all of these insiders have a perfect understanding of secrecy and none of them ever wish to talk to the media or demand more hush money or better hookers and blow or whatnot. That’s the world a CTer lives in. An infinitely powerful government which exists at the mercy of another infinitely powerful group (usually Jewish in nature) setting up an innocent bunch of patsies (because nobody on the other side of the world ever has any reason to hate America!) so they can build pipelines in Afghanistan or set up the invasion of Iran or etc etc etc. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11-was-an-inside-job/625490.md?page=6)