# 9/11

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11/628099>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [July 13, 2012, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11/628099 "2012-07-13T12:46:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 5\
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**Author:** ![Kenm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bc79bd/32.png) [@Kenm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kenm)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2012, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11/628099/381 "2012-07-24T06:11:43Z")

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> [@Lute Skywatcher](#):
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> None of whom are seen as sub-human, except maybe the subway drunks and the gangbangers. But they wouldn’t have been in the WTC.

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> [**1966 U.S. Army**](http://rense.com/general36/history.htm) dispenses Bacillus subtilis variant niger throughout the New York City subway system. More than a million civilians are exposed when army scientists drop lightbulbs filled with the bacteria onto ventilation grates.

A million drunks, the rest being gangbangers?..

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2012, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11/628099/382 "2012-07-24T06:22:23Z")

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> [@Kenm](#):
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> A million drunks, the rest being gangbangers?..

You keep trying to turn this into an argument as to what the government would or would not do, when it is _really_ about what the government can or cannot do. The debate is over when people start bringing magic explosives, disppearing buildings, invisible ninja bomb experts and/or holographic 767s to the table. When you can bring a scenario rooted in reality, we can have an honest debate here.

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2012, 10:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11/628099/383 "2012-07-24T10:41:47Z")

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> [@Kenm](#):
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> > [@](#):
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> > [**1966 U.S. Army**](http://rense.com/general36/history.htm) dispenses Bacillus subtilis variant niger throughout the New York City subway system. More than a million civilians are exposed when army scientists drop lightbulbs filled with the bacteria onto ventilation grates.

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> [Those light bulbs contained a harmless anthrax cousin, Bacillus subtilis variant niger.](http://articles.nydailynews.com/1998-02-22/news/18071834_1_new-york-subway-bulb-spores)

You do not seem to have made your point.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2012, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11/628099/384 "2012-07-24T16:01:12Z")

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> [@Kenm](#):
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> > 1966 U.S. Army dispenses Bacillus subtilis variant niger throughout the New York City subway system. More than a million civilians are exposed when army scientists drop lightbulbs filled with the bacteria onto ventilation grates.

Citing a [Rense](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12720317&postcount=5) laundry list? [Seriously?](http://rense.com/politics6/chemdatapage.html)

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2012, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11/628099/385 "2012-07-24T16:12:55Z")

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> [@Lute Skywatcher](#):
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> Citing a [Rense](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12720317&postcount=5) laundry list? [Seriously?](http://rense.com/politics6/chemdatapage.html)

It looks like his choice of sources points to his actual views on the matter.

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