# 9/11

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11/628099>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [July 13, 2012, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11/628099 "2012-07-13T12:46:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2012, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11/628099/61 "2012-07-14T04:02:58Z")

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There are a couple of glaring holes in your theory, Der:

[QUOTE=Der Trihs]  
Fake rubble.  
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First off, there was no way they could fake the rubble. Keen eyed workers would have been onto that instantly, and even those in the conspiracy couldn’t have covered such a thing up. No, what was done is real rubble was used from identical Twin Towers, that were destroyed by flying real planes into them. This was done 6 months before 9/11 and the rubble was collected and put on a large mothership (more on this later) and put in position just before the attack. Each piece of rubble was carefully dropped into position (a little known fact is that some of the rubble was actually numbered, similar to the folks who hoaxed the Moon Landing).

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> They disintegrated the Towers with orbital lasers using the lasers to simultaneously project holograms of planes “hitting the buildings”, and then to project holograms of the “damaged Towers” for a while.

Total horsehit. Sure, sure, the mothership had a cloaking device, but they didn’t project holograms of the damaged towers or air planes. Instead, they used large balloons that LOOKED like air planes (sort of like those used in the Macy’s parade, but really high tech and alieny). The towers, of course, were destroyed by kinetic strikes from orbit using a second mother ship (sort of an Aunt ship I guess…related on the mothers side…who also has kids). Basically, rabid mutant space ferrets ALWAYS use kinetic strikes when taking down 2 towers. They only use orbital GRAZERS (with real ruminants) if there are 1 or 3 towers, and orbital “lasers” (the " indicate finger quotes…and you have to say it slowly for full effect) if there are 4 or more towers being secretly destroyed. EVERYONE knows this, including you, so you must be part of the conspiracy for putting in such blatant misinformation. :mad:

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> That “smoke and dust” was just the vaporized towers dissipating.

The smoke and dust were from the rubble from the previously destroyed and transported identical Twin Towers, and is a sure sign that mutant space turtles (of the non-ninja variety) were also involved.

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> Then they ran a holomovie of the towers collapsing, and the “rescue workers” ran in to dump the fake debris.

This is just…well, ok, this one is close to the Truth(er), but is a distortion. They DID run a holomovie, but it was called ‘mutant space muskrat luv’ (with appropriate squeaky noises), and it was for the entertainment of the crew, and also to keep the rescue workers (many of who were non-human) entertained as well. The thing was, the kinetic strikes from the Aunt ship would have been extremely violent, and mutant space muskrat luv is key to maintaining good social and biological order.

Also, and I’m only going to lightly touch on this part (don’t ask why, or what might be being touched)…one word. Illuminati Jesus and evolution. Ok, that’s 3 or 4 words (not sure if ‘and’ counts in such a counting, or what the total number of countings would be), but it’s key to understanding the whole conspiracy any what happened, to whom it happened, what species it was, and what the dwarf and donkey were doing in the bottom of frame 347…

-XT

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2012, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11/628099/62 "2012-07-14T04:10:50Z")

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> [@XT](#):
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> Basically, rabid mutant space ferrets ALWAYS use kinetic strikes when taking down 2 towers. They only use orbital GRAZERS (with real ruminants) if there are 1 or 3 towers, and orbital “lasers” (the " indicate finger quotes…and you have to say it slowly for full effect) if there are 4 or more towers being secretly destroyed. EVERYONE knows this, including you, so you must be part of the conspiracy for putting in such blatant misinformation. :mad:

You know too much. The ferret assassins are on their way. It’ll take a while though; short legs.

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**Author:** ![Kenm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bc79bd/32.png) [@Kenm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kenm)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2012, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11/628099/63 "2012-07-14T04:28:34Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Someone’s discovered a dark and disturbing truth behind the September 11th attacks again. Must be Friday.

No. It was Bill Gannon. Or possibly Frank Smith.

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> That’s always how it goes with Conspiracy Theories. Evil geniuses pull off incredible plots full of misdirection and involving huge numbers of moving parts and conspirators, and then they give it away by doing something ridiculously stupid like blurting out the truth during a TV interview.

He was taken all aback because his white cat jumped off his lap.

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**Author:** ![blabber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e8c25b/32.png) [@blabber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blabber)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2012, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11/628099/64 "2012-07-15T22:54:22Z")

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> [@politicstahl](#):
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> Why do people and governments around the world pretend to believe that the Twin Towers disappeared solely because of gravity when anyone can see them turning into large and small pieces which go up and out before coming down?
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> Why did Richard Cheney “misspeak” when talking about Khalid Sheik Mohammed, who “blew up the World Trade Center”? [http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=5004452n](http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=5004452n)

**Anybody that knows anything about demotions will tell you that those towers coming down was the result of a " controlled explosion ".**  
**And if anybody thinks that their government would never do that, l have some land you maybe interested in down Florida way.**

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**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2012, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11/628099/65 "2012-07-15T22:58:18Z")

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Best username/post combo in a while. ^ blabber

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2012, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11/628099/66 "2012-07-15T23:08:27Z")

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**blabber** , please stop with the large goofy-looking blue text.

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**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2012, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11/628099/67 "2012-07-15T23:11:30Z")

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> [@blabber](#):
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> **Anybody that knows anything about demotions will tell you that those towers coming down was the result of a " controlled explosion ".**  
> **And if anybody thinks that their government would never do that, l have some land you maybe interested in down Florida way.**

Demotions are hard. Especially if you get paid less. I really have never been demoted, so I don’t know much about it. Also, I don’t think pickles belong on burgers, but I’m not sure that has anything to do with the government’s RDA.

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2012, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11/628099/68 "2012-07-15T23:12:07Z")

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**blabber** , [I posted a Mod comment](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=15275522#post15275522) on your choice of style in another thread, (although, looking at the content of your post, here, perhaps the style is suitable for the content).

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**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11/628099/69 "2012-07-16T11:36:02Z")

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Going froward, I shall make all of my internet arguments in a brightly-coloured sans serif font. I had no idea prior to this just how effective that technique is in driving home a point.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11/628099/70 "2012-07-16T12:04:54Z")

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> [@DrFidelius](#):
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> Going froward, I shall make all of my internet arguments in a brightly-coloured sans serif font. I had no idea prior to this just how effective that technique is in driving home a point.

Not just any [sans serif font](http://achewood.com/index.php?date=07052007) either…

And people who actually know things about demolitions will also tell you that those towers didn’t come down like a controlled explosion at all, particularly in the way the collapses started from the points of impact.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11/628099/71 "2012-07-16T14:05:09Z")

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> [@DrFidelius](#):
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> Going froward, I shall make all of my internet arguments in a brightly-coloured sans serif font. I had no idea prior to this just how effective that technique is in driving home a point.

Color and fonts aren’t everything, You’ll need to develop the art of pulling opinions out of your ass to do it properly.

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**Author:** ![blabber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e8c25b/32.png) [@blabber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blabber)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11/628099/72 "2012-07-16T14:36:40Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> **blabber** , please stop with the large goofy-looking blue text.

Fine but why is it offered if we can’t use it ?

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**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11/628099/73 "2012-07-16T14:46:34Z")

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> [@blabber](#):
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> Fine but why is it offered if we can’t use it ?

Ever go to McDonald’s? They have those ketchup dispensers there that are totally free. They assume you will use them as needed for your fries and such. But if you brought a jar in from home and started filling up with it, well, that is abusing the system they’ve created there. The option is there for a little bit of fries in a smaller container, not for slathering all over your body. Same way with the font choices.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11/628099/74 "2012-07-16T14:52:12Z")

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> [@blabber](#):
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> Fine but why is it offered if we can’t use it ?

Because it’s not worth the trouble to turn it off and it’s fine once in a while, but highlighting every single one of your posts with blue text and an unusual font is kind of annoying - if nothing else it makes it a pain for people to quote from your posts because they might leave stray bits of coding.

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**Author:** ![blabber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e8c25b/32.png) [@blabber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blabber)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11/628099/75 "2012-07-16T14:52:18Z")

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> [@stpauler](#):
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> Ever go to McDonald’s? They have those ketchup dispensers there that are totally free. They assume you will use them as needed for your fries and such. But if you brought a jar in from home and started filling up with it, well, that is abusing the system they’ve created there. The option is there for a little bit of fries in a smaller container, not for slathering all over your body. Same way with the font choices.

Well that makes no sense but it’s no problem. The blue and the font will no longer be used.  
Any concerns about the size of text ?

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11/628099/76 "2012-07-16T14:58:39Z")

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> [@blabber](#):
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> Well that makes no sense but it’s no problem. The blue and the font will no longer be used.  
> Any concerns about the size of text ?

If you’ve noticed, no one uses color, text size or fonts, other than to emphasize a particular word or thought. Posts stand out when they are logical and well presented and require nothing more. Using color and font or test size is like waiving a flag and shouting “look at me.” It’s not necessary here. Everyone is already looking.

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**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11/628099/77 "2012-07-16T15:13:01Z")

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> [@blabber](#):
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> Fine but why is it offered if we can’t use it ?

From what I can tell, 99% of the time it’s so people can say “This post was graped by the grapist.”

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**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11/628099/78 "2012-07-16T15:37:10Z")

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> [@blabber](#):
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> \*\*Anybody that knows anything about demotions will tell you that those towers coming down was the result of a " controlled explosion ".

Assuming you meant ‘demolitions’ - so tell me why there has been zero word from any real demolitions experts (not the fakes the cranktastic 9/11 movement has produced) saying that it was demolition? Let alone any serious papers on the subject.

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**Author:** ![Eutychus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Eutychus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eutychus)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11/628099/79 "2012-07-16T15:39:58Z")

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> [@blabber](#):
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> Well that makes no sense but it’s no problem. The blue and the font will no longer be used.  
> Any concerns about the size of text ?

The bottom line is that if you need fancy font styles / colors / sizes to make your ideas stand out, they’re probably not worth that much to begin with.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11/628099/80 "2012-07-16T15:40:13Z")

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> [@42fish](#):
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> From what I can tell, 99% of the time it’s so people can say “This post was graped by the grapist.”

Now, now. We do have the occasional firing of the shrink ray.

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