# 9/11

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11/628099>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [July 13, 2012, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11/628099 "2012-07-13T12:46:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11/628099/81 "2012-07-16T20:43:07Z")

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n/m

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**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11/628099/82 "2012-07-16T20:53:17Z")

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> [@42fish](#):
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> From what I can tell, 99% of the time it’s so people can say “This post was graped by the grapist.”

This post has been blabbered by the blabberist.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11/628099/83 "2012-07-16T21:24:18Z")

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> [@blabber](#):
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> Anybody that knows anything about demotions will tell you that those towers coming down was the result of a " controlled explosion ".

Any resemblance between controlled building demolitions and the destruction of the WTC is attributable to the fact that the destruction in both cases is primarily carried out by gravity.

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> And if anybody thinks that their government would never do that, l have some land you maybe interested in down Florida way.

Even if they _would_, it doesn’t mean they _did_.

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**Author:** ![blabber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e8c25b/32.png) [@blabber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blabber)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11/628099/84 "2012-07-16T23:19:13Z")

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> [@Eutychus](#):
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> The bottom line is that if you need fancy font styles / colors / sizes to make your ideas stand out, they’re probably not worth that much to begin with.

Well then that being said l guess l’ll move on. Something is offered yet frowned on if one use’s it. Sounds like bullcrap to me.  
So delete my account or not l’ll not post here again.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11/628099/85 "2012-07-16T23:27:51Z")

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> [@blabber](#):
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> Sounds like bullcrap to me.

Oh, you don’t know the half of it. On Tuesdays, you forbidden from using adverbs. And did you notice we don’t have avatars?

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11/628099/86 "2012-07-16T23:28:36Z")

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Remember **blabber**? I miss him.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11/628099/87 "2012-07-16T23:32:15Z")

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Dude, it isn’t “offered,” it just comes with the software. And we prefer you don’t use it because it might make you look like an immature idiot and we want to think you have something more to say than the twelve year old your font and color choices suggest you are.

Your account does not get deleted just because you stormed out in a huff. The real, grownup world doesn’t work like that. Your words will remain to embarrass you well into your teens and twenties, after you have learned something about engineering and “demotions,” whatever color those words are.

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**Author:** ![Full\_Tilt\_Boogie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/2acd7d/32.png) [@Full\_Tilt\_Boogie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Full_Tilt_Boogie)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11/628099/88 "2012-07-16T23:34:56Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Oh Lordy…here we go again.

^^^ This.

For all you tinfoil hat merchants: \*\*[Voodoo, Quackery, and a bad case of the CT’s](http://cosmicnavellint.blogspot.co.uk/2009/11/my-theory-about-conspiracy-theorists.html) \*\*

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11/628099/89 "2012-07-16T23:53:33Z")

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> [@blabber](#):
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> Well then that being said l guess l’ll move on. Something is offered yet frowned on if one use’s it. Sounds like bullcrap to me.  
> So delete my account or not l’ll not post here again.

You’re going to flounce just because someone took your blue crayon away?

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**Author:** ![Eutychus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Eutychus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eutychus)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2012, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11/628099/90 "2012-07-17T00:21:08Z")

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> [@blabber](#):
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> Well then that being said l guess l’ll move on. Something is offered yet frowned on if one use’s it. Sounds like bullcrap to me.  
> So delete my account or not l’ll not post here again.

Hey, it worked!

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2012, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11/628099/91 "2012-07-17T02:34:14Z")

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> [@blabber](#):
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> **Anybody that knows anything about demotions will tell you that those towers coming down was the result of a " controlled explosion ".**

> [@Mr.Miskatonic](#):
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> Assuming you meant ‘demolitions’ - so tell me why there has been zero word from any real demolitions experts (not the fakes the cranktastic 9/11 movement has produced) saying that it was demolition? Let alone any serious papers on the subject.

There was that one Dutch guy. Danny Jowenko said 1 & 2 could not possibly be controlled demolitions due to all the fire. After looking at video footage of 7’s northern face, and not being told about it having burned uncontrolled for nearly 7 hours, he said that _was_ a controlled demolition. When he was finally informed of 7 also being on fire, he said he had “no explanation”.

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**Author:** ![Algorithm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/algorithm/32/12204_2.png) [@Algorithm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algorithm)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2012, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11/628099/92 "2012-07-17T03:59:35Z")

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> [@blabber](#):
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> **Anybody that knows anything about demotions will tell you that those towers coming down was the result of a " controlled explosion ".**

Except for [Mark Loizeaux, president of Controlled Demolition, Inc.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nj6ZtXt6W90)

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> There were a lot of broken windows, mainly from impact of debris. But I didn’t see windows broken on the backs of buildings. Only where debris falling from the towers struck it.  
> …  
> If explosives of the magnitude necessary to cut the columns in a big building were detonated, the windows all the way around [the adjacent buildings] would be shattered. No way around it.

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**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2012, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11/628099/93 "2012-07-17T04:10:03Z")

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> [@blabber](#):
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> So delete my account or not l’ll not post here again.

Why is this such a common request – and threat – from posters who make no sense to begin with?

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2012, 9:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11/628099/94 "2012-07-17T09:26:56Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> Dude, it isn’t “offered,” it just comes with the software. And we prefer you don’t use it because it might make you look like an immature idiot and we want to think you have something more to say than the twelve year old your font and color choices suggest you are.
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> \*\*Your account does not get deleted just because you stormed out in a huff. The real, grownup world doesn’t work like that. Your words will remain to embarrass you well into your teens and twenties, after you have learned something \*\*about engineering and “demotions,” whatever color those words are.

I would suggest that we add the bolded section to the forum rules to remind new posters that they’ll have to live with their stupid posts forever, but the people making the stupid posts don’t read the rules so I suppose it wouldn’t make any difference anyway.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2012, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11/628099/95 "2012-07-17T11:47:45Z")

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_nm_

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**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2012, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11/628099/96 "2012-07-17T14:28:30Z")

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> [@Lute Skywatcher](#):
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> There was that one Dutch guy. Danny Jowenko said 1 & 2 could not possibly be controlled demolitions due to all the fire. After looking at video footage of 7’s northern face, and not being told about it having burned uncontrolled for nearly 7 hours, he said that _was_ a controlled demolition. When he was finally informed of 7 also being on fire, he said he had “no explanation”.

Yeah, and no surprise which parts the truthers crowed about and which parts they pretended never happened.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2012, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11/628099/97 "2012-07-17T15:50:27Z")

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> [@Mr.Miskatonic](#):
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> Yeah, and no surprise which parts the truthers crowed about and which parts they pretended never happened.

And have no repsonse to, “Why put so much stock in someone you think is wrong two-thrids of the time?”

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**Author:** ![Colophon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f05b48/32.png) [@Colophon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colophon)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2012, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11/628099/98 "2012-07-18T18:43:08Z")

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> [@blabber](#):
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> Anybody that knows anything about demotions will tell you that those towers coming down was the result of a " controlled explosion ".

Ah ha - you’re saying the WTC didn’t collapse, it was just demoted? To the “North American Trade Center”, perhaps, or even the “Manhattan Trade Center”. That’s pretty harsh.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2012, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11/628099/99 "2012-07-18T21:43:02Z")

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> [@Colophon](#):
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> Ah ha - you’re saying the WTC didn’t collapse, it was just demoted? To the “North American Trade Center”, perhaps, or even the “Manhattan Trade Center”.

To “Pile of Smoking Rubble”.

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**Author:** ![edwards\_beard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7bcc69/32.png) [@edwards\_beard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/edwards_beard)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2012, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9-11/628099/100 "2012-07-19T03:06:21Z")

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> [@XT](#):
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> How do we know that was actually Chaney? I thought I saw a glint of a long tooth during part of that interview, plus wasn’t he looking a bit more wrinkly than usual? It’s a sure sign that he’s either been taken over by our lizard overlords (they can put on human like skin and clothes and impersonate anyone), or he has been a lizard overlord the whole time (instead of an evil vampire overlord)!! :eek:
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> -XT

You may be on to something…[Donald Rumsfeld won’t admit he and Cheney aren’t lizards.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XH_34tqxAjA)

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