9/11

Yes based on FDNY on other eyewitnesses hearing explosions on the ground level and below, and the pictures of the squibs and just the whole way the buildings fell.

I think it’s a little more than just semantics. My post was clear in the context it was responding to.

I did NOT take my links out of context. They were asked point blank what they saw and heard.

The fact that you all don’t like the answer is not my problem, so don’t try to make it sound like I said FDNY saw the actual wires for the explosives.

There aren’t any.

All of which don’t add up to a fraction of evidence for CD.

What they saw and heard was not surprising for the fire in the building.

You have twisted that to your own scenario.

Firemen heard loud sounds <> Building Wired to go BOOM!

Here is one, of several in a line above that, I was responding to. There is your context.

My links report secondary explosions after the plane impact, backing up the point I was trying to make.

I quote myself, and I stand behind my words. It’s damn clear I never said FDNY saw buildings wired for expolsives or had any thing to do with this 9/11 BS

I, for one, find it ludicrous that we’re told to believe so many soldiers are “killed in action”, or have to have limbs amputated, when there are plenty of health packs lying around every battlefield that can be used to instantly restore one to peak physical condition.

I believe that you meant that you’d drawn your own conclusion that the building was wired after hearing the FDNY account that you posted, even though the FDNY account doesn’t say the building was wired. But I also think the way you initially worded your statement was confusing, not “damn clear”. You knew what you meant, but everyone else didn’t.

Squibs aren’t used in demolitions. Squibs are used in Hollywood movies to produce simulated demolitions. The presence of “squibs” in the WTC would be more likely to indicate that the buildings had been secretly infiltrated by Michael Bay than by the Illuminati.

You like photos? There are photos of the cores of both towers standing after the outer walls fell. What sort of deliberate demolition does that?

“Explosions” <> explosive charges.

Got any idea what sound a body makes when hitting pavement after falling ~100 floors? Or, in the case of 7, what a BLEVE is?

It’s obviously not “damn clear”, otherwise this point wouldn’t be debated for so long.

Again, it’s on YOU to make your points clear. The available evidence says that your point was not actually clear and still isn’t clear to some of us.

From what I can gather, you are trying to build a case for a controlled demolition, based, in part, on eyewitness testimony.

Correct, so far?

Well, I’m glad you’re no longer claiming other posters “misquoted” you. It’s disheartening, however, that you’ve fallen back to “out of context”. That’s a weaselly argument when you are the one being unclear.

That is not what I’m saying. We have all seen that one of the few ways you bring a steel framed building down is with explosives or by taking it apart.

Earthquakes and all the other things listed can do it too, but not in the way we saw on 9/11. I personally don’t have to be an engineer to understand this. Just like I don’t personally have to know how to grow corn to feed myself.

By your logic, the Empire State building should have collasped when it was hit by a B-25.

Or with burning foam-filled furniture, and the Towers had 110 floors of foam-filled furniture.

I’m not understanding the problem here. My dispute is that I’m being quoted as saying FDNY saw that the buildings were wired for expolsives. To me, that is a clear misquote as well as a post taken way out of context.

I’m not trying to build a case, I believe, point blank, that the buildings were wired for expolsives.

I base my belief on the eyewitness accounts that include FDNY, and I provided those links.

My words have, in fact been twisted, and now the thread seems to only be about that.

Easy and dishonest, not to mention disgusting, answer. Actually, it’s not an answer. An answer to how a crime happens is based on scientific evidence. Asserting the planes were misdirection is simply wishful thinking to excuse the incredible lack of understanding that you, along with every single other WONJCT, lack of science, evidence, and even plain courtesy. That last is in there because your touting baseless “arguments” is an insult to the memory of those who were killed in those attacks.

They still stand, just not as evidence of your claims.

You may have meant something different, but Czarcasm’s challenge to your statment that I have quoted does not appear to twist your words in any way.

Feel free to restate your view in a way that is more clear, but recognize that what you actually posted says pretty much what Czarcasm understood it to mean.

I’m sorry, what steel framed building like WTC 1,2 &7 ever totally collasped due to foam-filled furniture, prior to 9/11.

Even more to the point, why was the crime scene cleaned up so fast? I know you’re going to say “the nation need to move on and heal the damage” or some nonsense like that.

Fine, they had to clean up NYC, but they could of stored the debris elsewhere..

They did you say. Yeah some of it, they did.

Almost allof it was quickly hauled off, some melted down, some in ships in BS monuments. I think one is going up near my hometown.

Why was there no one saying, hold on lets study all of this. All of our great buildings can be in danger. Let’s really understand why they collasped.

Could you please fix this?

If only a group of scientists, perhaps banding together in some kind of national institute of standards and technology, had collected an amount of material they deemed sufficient for study and stored it in Maryland.

Oh, they did.

Just pointing out that is it possible, as you previously noted and apparently forgot.

I’m sorry, nearly six months is “fast”?

Yeah, approximately two million tons, which was sorted through.

You are aware that there are monuments which contain debris as was found in situ?

Finding out how to prevent the same thing from happening again was the point of the Commission.