# 99? Rookies! I say 100%!!! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 8, 2011, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/99-rookies-i-say-100/599035 "2011-10-08T22:24:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Mr\_Smashy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/2bfe46/32.png) [@Mr\_Smashy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Smashy)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2011, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/99-rookies-i-say-100/599035/141 "2011-10-11T21:11:44Z")
> [@Ogre](#): > > [The voice of the American right.](http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/bl-tea-party-signs.htm?PS=552%3A4) > > (In case you can’t parse through the moronic message, it’s from a Tea Party protest.) > > I can play this game all day long. LOL, OK. The Tea Party: Let’s get back to the principles of the Constitution The young, idealist idiots: Personal ownership of property is a crime, and all debts in the country should be immediately forgiven. Plus we should behead all billionaires. You’re right. They’re equally extremist. ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2011, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/99-rookies-i-say-100/599035/142 "2011-10-11T21:37:12Z")
> [@Mr\_Smashy](#): > > LOL, OK. > > The Tea Party: Let’s get back to the principles of the Constitution > > The young, idealist idiots: Personal ownership of property is a crime, and all debts in the country should be immediately forgiven. Plus we should behead all billionaires. > > You’re right. They’re equally extremist. Don’t let the hats fool you, they don’t give two shits about the principles of the Constitution. I doubt many of them have even read it. But I’m pretty certain they like that whole three-fifth of a person thing for blacks though ---
**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/99-rookies-i-say-100/599035/143 "2011-10-12T19:06:51Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > I’m making a note here: big success… Is it hard to overstate your satisfaction? ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/99-rookies-i-say-100/599035/144 "2011-10-12T19:24:17Z")
> [@Mr\_Smashy](#): > > The Tea Party: Let’s get back to the principles of the Constitution They only bleat about the constitution because the piggies told them to bleat about the constitution. I reckon that a casual survey with fact-type question would reveal their vast ignorance not only about the specifics of the constitution, but even the general gist of what the thing is. They assume whatever they believe is in the constitution somewhere, just like they assume it’s in the bible. These are people who think gay marriage is socialism. They haven’t any knowledge or even any curiosity about what any of their shouting points even mean. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/99-rookies-i-say-100/599035/145 "2011-10-12T19:29:55Z")
But they sure are clean. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/99-rookies-i-say-100/599035/146 "2011-10-12T19:36:40Z")
> [@Mosier](#): > > I didn’t ask anyone to assume the tea party platform was reasonable or correct. I only asked you to assume good faith-that they actually believe what they say they do. “Their arguments are stupid because taxes are at historic lows” is a valid response to the tea party platform. “What they’re REALLY protesting is that a black person got elected” is not. Well, that may or may not be the case. Got numbers on the TP protest turnouts when it was the white guy running up the national debt? ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/99-rookies-i-say-100/599035/147 "2011-10-12T19:38:51Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Bookmarked for easy citation the next time someone talks about how the ring wing has a monopoly on discussing violence against disliked targets with approval. What dialect of English do they speak on your planet, in which “may come to that” denotes approval? > [@Bricker](#): > > Ok. I sure didn’t see anything that suggested disapproval either, but perhaps you simply meant a neutral state of fact, neither approving or disapproving. Another data point re non-Earthly English dialects arrives… ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Smashy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/2bfe46/32.png) [@Mr\_Smashy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Smashy)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/99-rookies-i-say-100/599035/148 "2011-10-12T20:12:34Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > Well, that may or may not be the case. Got numbers on the TP protest turnouts when it was the white guy running up the national debt? I always get a kick when the lefties on this board try to equate what was done previously, to what’s being done now. There’s really no comparison. Your boy is driving us off a cliff. Let me dumb it down for you, perhaps you’ll understand: Check out this [video clip](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5yxFtTwDcc&feature=player_embedded), it might make some sense now. And we’ll take as a given that your guy is black, therefore any criticism of him is racist, etc. Plus Bush lied, people died, no blood for oil. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Smashy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/2bfe46/32.png) [@Mr\_Smashy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Smashy)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/99-rookies-i-say-100/599035/149 "2011-10-12T20:23:19Z")
> [@tnetennba](#): > > They only bleat about the constitution because the piggies told them to bleat about the constitution. I reckon that a casual survey with fact-type question would reveal their vast ignorance not only about the specifics of the constitution, but even the general gist of what the thing is. > > They assume whatever they believe is in the constitution somewhere, just like they assume it’s in the bible. These are people who think gay marriage is socialism. They haven’t any knowledge or even any curiosity about what any of their shouting points even mean. Do you have a cite for this claptrap, or is it just the demonization of those you disagree with? Your liberal Oracle, the [New york times](http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/15/us/politics/15poll.html), says the opposite. In fact, Tea Party people tend to be smarter, wealthier, and better educated than the average American (certainly more than the average union worker/brainwashed plantation minority/illegal immigrant that makes up much of the left’s coalition). The article makes the point that, to a large extent, the Tea Party movement reflects America. As opposed to the spoiled children of privilege, union thugs, and other communist/whackjobs who are getting their 15 minutes at the expense of our olfactory senses. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/99-rookies-i-say-100/599035/150 "2011-10-12T20:49:00Z")
> [@Mr\_Smashy](#): > > /brainwashed plantation minority/ Subtle, that. As for your limping attempt at a point, Tea Partiers are more likely to have higher education and wealth, because _older white men_ are more likely to have higher education and wealth. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/99-rookies-i-say-100/599035/151 "2011-10-12T20:58:20Z")
> [@Mr\_Smashy](#): > > I always get a kick when the lefties on this board try to equate what was done previously, to what’s being done now. There’s really no comparison. Your boy is driving us off a cliff. By cutting taxes? Explain. ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/99-rookies-i-say-100/599035/152 "2011-10-12T21:15:40Z")
> [@Mr\_Smashy](#): > > Do you have a cite for this claptrap, or is it just the demonization of those you disagree with? Your liberal Oracle, the [New york times](http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/15/us/politics/15poll.html), says the opposite. In fact, Tea Party people tend to be smarter, wealthier, and better educated than the average American (certainly more than the average union worker/brainwashed plantation minority/illegal immigrant that makes up much of the left’s coalition). The article makes the point that, to a large extent, the Tea Party movement reflects America. > > As opposed to the spoiled children of privilege, union thugs, and other communist/whackjobs who are getting their 15 minutes at the expense of our olfactory senses. Better educated != smarter. I can’t find the part in the story where they say what they mean by “better educated,” but I imagine it means a lot of them got Bachelors degrees in something that has nothing to do with history or political science a long time ago. It certainly doesn’t translate into better informed. Rather than poll their opinions and demographics, I’d like to see them post actual quiz results about basic information related to their opinions – like the growth of debt under Obama vs. the last adminsitration, when the bailouts occurred, the content of the healthcare bill, the text of the constitution, the way the US spends its money, and the meaning of their favorite swear word: “Socialism!” ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/99-rookies-i-say-100/599035/153 "2011-10-12T21:22:36Z")
> [@Mr\_Smashy](#): > > I always get a kick when the lefties on this board try to equate what was done previously, to what’s being done now. There’s really no comparison. Your boy is driving us off a cliff. > > Let me dumb it down for you, perhaps you’ll understand: Check out this [video clip](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5yxFtTwDcc&feature=player_embedded), it might make some sense now. > > And we’ll take as a given that your guy is black, therefore any criticism of him is racist, etc. Plus Bush lied, people died, no blood for oil. Oh, so now blacks are reckless drivers? RACIST! LOVE that video! ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/99-rookies-i-say-100/599035/154 "2011-10-12T21:24:30Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > Subtle, that. > > As for your limping attempt at a point, Tea Partiers are more likely to have higher education and wealth, because _older white men_ are more likely to have higher education and wealth. From the Tea Party members I’ve seen on TV, they, too, appear to be better educated. So, it’s not “whiteness” that seems to be responsible. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/99-rookies-i-say-100/599035/155 "2011-10-12T21:24:48Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > Oh, so now blacks are reckless drivers? RACIST! > > LOVE that video! You love it because you believe things that are not true and they color your perceptions. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/99-rookies-i-say-100/599035/156 "2011-10-12T21:32:14Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > From the Tea Party members I’ve seen on TV, they, too, appear to be better educated. So, it’s not “whiteness” that seems to be responsible. You are a small, angry thing motivated by emotion, so I will explain this to you: [ul] [li]You have not seen every TV depiction of both groups.[/li][li]You are ideological so you may be skewing what you see. For instance, because you are bigoted, you cannot understand that your argument against same sex marriage is nothing but a statement of that bigotry.[/li][li]The set of TV depictions in no way represents a solid demographic sampling of both groups.[/li][/ul] ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/99-rookies-i-say-100/599035/157 "2011-10-12T21:36:56Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > From the Tea Party members I’ve seen on TV, they, too, appear to be better educated. So, it’s not “whiteness” that seems to be responsible. One suspects that to you “appear to be better educated” means, “they say all the stupid ignorant things I think.” ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/99-rookies-i-say-100/599035/158 "2011-10-12T21:46:50Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > You love it because you believe things that are not true and they color your perceptions. HA! Go talk to the mirror. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/99-rookies-i-say-100/599035/159 "2011-10-12T21:48:26Z")
> [@tnetennba](#): > > One suspects that to you “appear to be better educated” means, “they say all the stupid ignorant things I think.” Actually, no. I’m going by the way they speak, as well as what they say. I wouldn’t say they’re necessarily more intelligent, but they clearly appear to be better educated. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/99-rookies-i-say-100/599035/160 "2011-10-12T21:50:17Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > HA! Go talk to the mirror. Protip: Not everyone sees that wide-eyed dipshit in the mirror. That’s just you. 😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/99-rookies-i-say-100/599035.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/99-rookies-i-say-100/599035.md?page=9)