# 9th Republican presidential debate tonight 02/13/16 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [February 13, 2016, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9th-republican-presidential-debate-tonight-02-13-16/746063 "2016-02-13T23:26:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2016, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9th-republican-presidential-debate-tonight-02-13-16/746063/101 "2016-02-15T20:55:32Z")
I like how the Republican establishment still wants to fight every side in Syria - ISIS, Assad, Russia, yeehaw. They should just lie about it. Remember when Dubya campaigned as being against nation building? These so called Trump controversies are old. He already said the 9/11, Iraq, Bush stuff a couple months ago. Not sure if it’ll matter. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2016, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9th-republican-presidential-debate-tonight-02-13-16/746063/102 "2016-02-16T02:23:26Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > That’s what I said in one of the other threads. They’ve just put so much of their identity into stopping Obama they can’t see what a bad precedent they are setting. And I can’t imagine anyone on the planet thinks they would take this view if the shoe was on the other foot. Yeah, I was really hoping that at least on of the hosts of the Sunday talk shows would have the balls to ask Rubio or Cruz or McConnell to look into the camera and promise that if it were February 14, 2008, and Ginsburg had just dropped dead while Bush was President, he would still be saying we should wait until after the election to appoint her replacement. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2016, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9th-republican-presidential-debate-tonight-02-13-16/746063/103 "2016-02-16T02:31:57Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > It’s like having respect for a serial killer because he has fewer victims than all the other serial killers. Kasich is a loonie; he’s just not batshit crazy. Here are some of his positions: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19083644&postcount=73](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19083644&postcount=73) ---
**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2016, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9th-republican-presidential-debate-tonight-02-13-16/746063/104 "2016-02-16T15:00:32Z")
> [@TonySinclair](#): > > Yeah, I was really hoping that at least on of the hosts of the Sunday talk shows would have the balls to ask Rubio or Cruz or McConnell to look into the camera and promise that if it were February 14, 2008, and Ginsburg had just dropped dead while Bush was President, he would still be saying we should wait until after the election to appoint her replacement. Welcome to politics. Democrats said they should not confirm another GWB SCOTUS nomination even before February 14, 2008. Now those same politicians, and I mean the exact same people, are very concerned with upholding the Constitution. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2016, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9th-republican-presidential-debate-tonight-02-13-16/746063/105 "2016-02-16T15:09:57Z")
> [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](#): > > Welcome to politics. **Democrats said they should not confirm another GWB SCOTUS nomination even before February 14, 2008**. Now those same politicians, and I mean the exact same people, are very concerned with upholding the Constitution. Cite for the bolded part, please? ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2016, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9th-republican-presidential-debate-tonight-02-13-16/746063/106 "2016-02-16T15:42:18Z")
> [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](#): > > Welcome to politics. Democrats said they should not confirm another GWB SCOTUS nomination even before February 14, 2008. Now those same politicians, and I mean the exact same people, are very concerned with upholding the Constitution. Where’s the link to that story? ---
**Author:** ![treis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bc79bd/32.png) [@treis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/treis)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2016, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9th-republican-presidential-debate-tonight-02-13-16/746063/107 "2016-02-16T16:20:36Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > What was “bad” about his Spanish? Here’s what he said: "_Ahora mismo, díselo en Español si tu quieres"_ That’s not what he said. He said “Marco si quieres, [unintelligible] Ahora mismo, dicelo en Espanol si quieres [unitelligible]”. It’s wrong both ways. dice lo is “[he] says it”. Diselo is “I gave you/them it”. editing ---
**Author:** ![treis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bc79bd/32.png) [@treis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/treis)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2016, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9th-republican-presidential-debate-tonight-02-13-16/746063/108 "2016-02-16T16:37:37Z")
On further review (and googling) it seems like people are saying that Cruz said “Right now, speak to them in Spanish, if you want”. That would make Cruz’s Spanish correct but it seems like an odd thing for him to say to Rubio in Spanish. To recap, it can be: di se lo (say it to them) [Correct Spanish] dice lo (he says it) [Bad Spanish] di se lo (I gave it to them) [Bad Spanish] All these are pronounced (essentially) the same. ---
**Author:** ![Lakai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lakai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lakai)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2016, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9th-republican-presidential-debate-tonight-02-13-16/746063/109 "2016-02-16T23:50:11Z")
Trump is getting crucified on conservative talk show radio. Mark Levin and Rush Limbaugh have been ranting against him on their shows. We’ll see if this translates to Trump losing voters in SC. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2016, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9th-republican-presidential-debate-tonight-02-13-16/746063/110 "2016-02-17T00:47:06Z")
So far his poll numbers still look good. He never ceases to amaze. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2016, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9th-republican-presidential-debate-tonight-02-13-16/746063/111 "2016-02-17T00:58:35Z")
> [@Lakai](#): > > Trump is getting crucified on conservative talk show radio. Mark Levin and Rush Limbaugh have been ranting against him on their shows. We’ll see if this translates to Trump losing voters in SC. And thus does Dr. Frankenstein try to recruit the villagers to slow the monster he has created and loosed upon them. ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2016, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9th-republican-presidential-debate-tonight-02-13-16/746063/112 "2016-02-17T02:15:33Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > And thus does Dr. Frankenstein try to recruit the villagers to slow the monster he has created and loosed upon them. That’s exactly what I thought of as well! It’s hysterical, really. The extreme right has finally found a reflection of themselves that they can’t stand. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2016, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9th-republican-presidential-debate-tonight-02-13-16/746063/113 "2016-02-17T11:49:18Z")
> [@Bridget\_Burke](#): > > Where’s the link to that story? [Here, friends, right here!](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/lol-has-anyone-looked-at-what-schumer-actually-said) But in context, no, it doesn’t mean what all the wingnuts have been saying it does. Big surprise, I know. After saying that Senate Democrats had accepted Administration assurances that Roberts and Alito were mainstream conservative judges who would operate within the precedents and decisions of the Rehnquist Court, but had found out otherwise when it was too late, Schumer said the following: > [@](#): > > We cannot afford to see Justice Stevens replaced by another Roberts of Justice Ginsburg replaced by another Alito. Given the track of this President and the experience of obfuscation at hearings, with respect to the Supreme Court at least, I will recommend to my colleagues that we should not confirm any Bush nominee to the Supreme Court except in extraordinary circumstances. They must prove by actions not words that they are in the mainstream rather than we have to prove that they are not. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2016, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9th-republican-presidential-debate-tonight-02-13-16/746063/114 "2016-02-17T11:55:16Z")
> [@Lakai](#): > > Trump is getting crucified on conservative talk show radio. Mark Levin and Rush Limbaugh have been ranting against him on their shows. We’ll see if this translates to Trump losing voters in SC. One by one, Trump is sowing doubt among his followers about the major institutions of the right wing. First, of course, the GOP establishment and its backers. Second, Fox News. And now, talk radio. And of course, talk radio has largely been in his corner up to this point, so their turning on him is as much a problem for their own credibility as anything else. Whether or not Trump wins the nomination, the Republican coalition is never going to be the same. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2016, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9th-republican-presidential-debate-tonight-02-13-16/746063/115 "2016-02-17T12:36:08Z")
Was Schumer saying Roberts is to the right of Rehnquist? Because that’s definitely wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2016, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9th-republican-presidential-debate-tonight-02-13-16/746063/116 "2016-02-17T15:14:40Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > One by one, Trump is sowing doubt among his followers about the major institutions of the right wing. > > First, of course, the GOP establishment and its backers. > > Second, Fox News. > > And now, talk radio. > > And of course, talk radio has largely been in his corner up to this point, so their turning on him is as much a problem for their own credibility as anything else. > > Whether or not Trump wins the nomination, the Republican coalition is never going to be the same. Heh. “No! NO!! I didn’t pass out the torches and pitchforks for you to use on ME!!!” :smack: :eek: 😃 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2016, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9th-republican-presidential-debate-tonight-02-13-16/746063/117 "2016-02-17T15:18:47Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > As I said in another thread: there’s chess players, checkers players, and tic-tac-toe players. > > The R folks who could play chess have retired or been run off and the checkers players are now being shouted down by the tic-tac-toe players. I think we’re heading for the point where the tic-tac-toe players are driven out to make room for the play-with-their-own-feces crowd. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2016, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9th-republican-presidential-debate-tonight-02-13-16/746063/118 "2016-02-17T21:42:48Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > I think we’re heading for the point where the tic-tac-toe players are driven out to make room for the play-with-their-own-feces crowd. QFT. And the scary thing is, the mainstream pundits will still treat the two parties as basically equivalent, with the only difference being that one’s left of center, and the other’s to the right. ---
**Author:** ![Lakai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lakai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lakai)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2016, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9th-republican-presidential-debate-tonight-02-13-16/746063/119 "2016-02-18T00:18:35Z")
A poll just came out showing Ted Cruz in [first place](http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/surprise-trump-falls-behind-cruz-national-nbc-wsj-poll-n520296) at 28%. Trump at 26%. It was conducted after the debate. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2016, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9th-republican-presidential-debate-tonight-02-13-16/746063/120 "2016-02-18T00:45:06Z")
So Trump found a way to pierce his Teflon after all. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9th-republican-presidential-debate-tonight-02-13-16/746063.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/9th-republican-presidential-debate-tonight-02-13-16/746063.md?page=7)