# \[\_\_\_\_\] melt

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/____-melt/698865>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 18, 2014, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/____-melt/698865 "2014-09-18T20:07:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 18\
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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2014, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/____-melt/698865/1 "2014-09-18T20:07:14Z")

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Rather than hijack the tuna melt thread, I thought I’d start a new one. I wanted to post the smoked salmon melt, but why not open it up to others?

**Smoked Salmon Melt**  
Split a bagel, and toast it or not. Top with cream cheese, smoked salmon, sliced red onion, and a slice of Swiss cheese. Put it in the oven until it’s hot through, and the Swiss cheese is nice and melty.

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**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2014, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/____-melt/698865/2 "2014-09-18T20:18:08Z")

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I love turkey melts.  
Slices of real turkey warmed in gravy, piled on to of a thick piece of white toast, and then topped with a generous pile of shredded aged cheddar and passed under the salamander.  
Serve with mashed potatoes & gravy and buttered corn.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2014, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/____-melt/698865/3 "2014-09-18T20:27:29Z")

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Ham-off-the-bone style deli meat, on pita with sweet hot mustard and mozzarella or american cheese. In the toaster oven until the cheese is golden brown. When done, top with sliced tomatoes, salt & pepper.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2014, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/____-melt/698865/4 "2014-09-18T20:32:53Z")

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Of course, the King of Melts has to be the patty melt. 😉

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**Author:** ![Mllz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Mllz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mllz)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2014, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/____-melt/698865/5 "2014-09-18T20:48:11Z")

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Do be careful with your [**] melts… accidentally press them, and they become [**] Panini. Get the cheese-to-[**] ratio wrong and all of a sudden it’s a [**] Grilled Cheese or Grilled Cheese with [\_\_\_\_] !

I’d probably term the sandwich in the OP as “Bagel and Lox with Swiss-cheese-for-some-reason, and hold the Capers. Toast that sonofagun!”, for instance. “Smoked Salmon Melt”? I’d likely do that like a standard Tuna Melt if I were asked to make one with no further instructions. But either option sounds pretty good to me!

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2014, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/____-melt/698865/6 "2014-09-18T21:54:42Z")

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> [@Mllz](#):
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> I’d probably term the sandwich in the OP as “Bagel and Lox with Swiss-cheese-for-some-reason, and hold the Capers. Toast that sonofagun!”, for instance. “Smoked Salmon Melt”? I’d likely do that like a standard Tuna Melt if I were asked to make one with no further instructions. But either option sounds pretty good to me!

‘Melt’, as it pertains to sandwiches, covers a variety; and some melts are not called ‘melts’. For example, we call a cheese melt a ‘grilled cheese sandwich’. A melt may be any grilled sandwich as long as it has cheese. (Hey, you need to melt the cheese to call it a melt!) It could be closed faced like a patty melt, or open faced like the smoked salmon melt. It could be on sandwich bread, a bagel, or an English muffin. A panini is a variety of ‘melt’.

OK, so let’s say you have a nice pastrami-and-provalone on a roll. Not a melt, even though the cheese is melted. The cheese has to _be_ melted by cooking the assembled sandwich.

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**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2014, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/____-melt/698865/7 "2014-09-19T06:17:39Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> Rather than hijack the tuna melt thread, I thought I’d start a new one. I wanted to post the smoked salmon melt, but why not open it up to others?
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> **Smoked Salmon Melt**  
> Split a bagel, and toast it or not. Top with cream cheese, smoked salmon, sliced red onion, and a slice of Swiss cheese. Put it in the oven until it’s hot through, and the Swiss cheese is nice and melty.

Isn’t this a fancy lox & bagel?

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**Author:** ![chiroptera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/df705f/32.png) [@chiroptera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chiroptera)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2014, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/____-melt/698865/8 "2014-09-19T11:07:29Z")

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Pulled pork melt. I do it without bread, but open-face would work.

Pulled pork in the slow cooker: combine pork with either apple sauce or sliced apples, a dash of cinnamon and some salt. Cook until done.

Pile in a bowl, or on on thick toast. Cover with sharp cheddar. Add a liberal splash of sriracha or hot sauce. Broil or nuke. The sweet-savoury pork is delicious with sharp cheese and hot sauce.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2014, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/____-melt/698865/9 "2014-09-19T14:15:35Z")

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> [@Terminus\_Est](#):
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> Isn’t this a fancy lox & bagel?

[Lox](http://img2.timeinc.net/health/images/slides/lox-bagel-400x400.jpg) is different from [smoked salmon](http://kathdedon.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/smoked-salmon.jpg). Also, ‘lox & bagel’ isn’t a melt.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2014, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/____-melt/698865/10 "2014-09-19T14:23:58Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> [Lox](http://img2.timeinc.net/health/images/slides/lox-bagel-400x400.jpg) is different from [smoked salmon](http://kathdedon.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/smoked-salmon.jpg). Also, ‘lox & bagel’ isn’t a melt.

Well, not all smoked salmon is hot smoked, like the one you have pictured. [This is also smoked salmon](http://www.midwayproductszw.com/products/Fish/Salmon/lochduartcoldsmokedsalmon200g.html).

That said, lox is not necessarily smoked. (I would say by default, it isn’t.) Nova (lox) is the most popular smoked version of lox.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2014, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/____-melt/698865/11 "2014-09-19T14:54:05Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> That said, lox is not necessarily smoked. (I would say by default, it isn’t.)

All of the lox I’ve encountered in my life has not been smoked. When I’ve seen cold smoked salmon, it has been called ‘cold smoked salmon’. Hot smoked salmon is just ‘smoked salmon’.

Now I want to make some [gravlax](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=529733). But smörgåsar aren’t melts, so I can’t talk about them here.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2014, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/____-melt/698865/12 "2014-09-19T15:21:58Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> All of the lox I’ve encountered in my life has not been smoked. When I’ve seen cold smoked salmon, it has been called ‘cold smoked salmon’. Hot smoked salmon is just ‘smoked salmon’.
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> Now I want to make some [gravlax](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=529733). But smörgåsar aren’t melts, so I can’t talk about them here.

Mmmmm…gravlax.

(I’ve encountered both smoked/Nova and unsmoked lox fairly commonly. Here’s [a New York Times article](http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/25/dining/setting-out-the-bagels-and-lox.html) stating “And by the way, when New Yorkers say bagels and lox, we don’t always strictly mean the salty pickled belly meat of the salmon, which is what traditional Jewish lox is. The word lox also colloquially means any kind of cold smoked salmon that you’d eat on a bagel (hot smoked salmon is a whole other thing). In general, true lox is saltier than most kinds of smoked salmon.” Now, I am _not_ a New Yorker, nor Jewish, but that’s how I hear the word used myself in the Midwest. And cold-smoked salmon is usually just packaged as “smoked salmon” in my experience. See my link, for example. But this may be somewhat regional.)

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**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2014, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/____-melt/698865/13 "2014-09-19T18:39:49Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> All of the lox I’ve encountered in my life has not been smoked. When I’ve seen cold smoked salmon, it has been called ‘cold smoked salmon’. Hot smoked salmon is just ‘smoked salmon’.
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> Now I want to make some [gravlax](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=529733). But smörgåsar aren’t melts, so I can’t talk about them here.

That’s backwards, in my experience. Smoked salmon is always cold smoked, and looks pretty much like lox.

Hot smoked salmon isn’t nearly as common, and it flakes like cooked fish.

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**Author:** ![DonLogan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@DonLogan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DonLogan)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2014, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/____-melt/698865/14 "2014-09-21T12:44:06Z")

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Hmmmm…what would Brett Somers say?

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2014, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/____-melt/698865/15 "2014-09-21T12:53:37Z")

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I love seafood melts with tomato.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2014, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/____-melt/698865/16 "2014-09-21T14:08:12Z")

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> [@etv78](#):
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> I love seafood melts with tomato.

Grilled turkey and cheese with tomato, too.

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**Post date:** [September 21, 2014, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/____-melt/698865/17 "2014-09-21T16:22:22Z")

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[I’ll Stop The World and] [Melt](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuN6gs0AJls) [With You]

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**Post date:** [September 21, 2014, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/____-melt/698865/18 "2014-09-21T20:04:17Z")

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Q: What happen when Patty stay in sun too long?

A: Patty melt.
