# \_\_\_\_\_\_\_ vs. \_\_\_\_\_\_\_ (Comic Book All-Time Battle + The Next Doper Decides)

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**Created:** [August 4, 2007, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/_______-vs-_______-comic-book-all-time-battle-the-next-doper-decides/414382 "2007-08-04T02:33:48Z")\
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[QUOTE=Just Some Guy]  
The population of Daxam vs. the population of Mars (or where ever the white martians hide out).  
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I think the last living White Martians are both living on Earth, at the moment, but who the heck knows any more?

AAAANYWAY.

Assuming the current populations of both species, the Daxamites win by sheer numbers, even before the issues of their racial weaknesses get a chance to come into play. (And one of the two living White Martians is a bit of a ditz about using her powers effectively, based on the last issue of Teen Titans…there’s no way Megan should have taken that hit…but I digress…)

Monster Fighting Women match…

Cassie Hack vs Elsa Bloodstone

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**Post date:** [August 7, 2007, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/_______-vs-_______-comic-book-all-time-battle-the-next-doper-decides/414382/82 "2007-08-07T20:42:34Z")

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As much as I love Cassie, she’s just outclassed and overpowered in this one. Elsa takes her down without breaking much of a sweat and even takes a swat at Vlad for good measure.

Dr. Strange vs. The Phantom Stranger

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[QUOTE=I’m No Saint]  
As much as I love Cassie, she’s just outclassed and overpowered in this one. Elsa takes her down without breaking much of a sweat and even takes a swat at Vlad for good measure.

Dr. Strange vs. The Phantom Stranger  
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Dr. Strange, if there ws ever any occasion for the two of them to fight. But I can’t imagine one.

If I may go slightly off-topic: Xena versus Buffy?

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**Post date:** [August 7, 2007, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/_______-vs-_______-comic-book-all-time-battle-the-next-doper-decides/414382/84 "2007-08-07T21:07:27Z")

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[QUOTE=Skald the Rhymer]  
If I may go slightly off-topic: Xena versus Buffy?  
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What are they fighting over, who has the more delectible sidekick?  
Buffy in 6 rounds, TKO. Although I doubt she could take it to the death. Xena would have no problem with that, of course, which would give her the early advantage. But Buffy would take her eventually.

Aquaman vs Namor the Sub-Mariner?

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According to the _Marvel vs. DC_ crossover, Aquaman wins… but that’s because the victor only had to pin his opponent down for a moment. In an all out slugfest, Aquaman would be reduced to aquapaste.

The Phantom Lady vs. the Blonde Phantom?

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**Post date:** [August 7, 2007, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/_______-vs-_______-comic-book-all-time-battle-the-next-doper-decides/414382/86 "2007-08-07T21:40:06Z")

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IIRC, Namor can fly…tactically more important than telepathic communication with marine species.

Namor wastes Aquaman.

The Saint of Killers

> **[Saint of Killers](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_of_Killers)**
>
> The Saint of Killers is a fictional character who appears in the comic book series Preacher, published by Vertigo Comics in 1995. Writer Garth Ennis created the Saint of Killers with artist Steve Dillon. The Saint is described as "a grim, taciturn, implacable killing machine" with supernatural abilities involving divinity, immortality, and influence over Heaven and Hell. His goals typically centre on bringing down individuals through destruction and death by the laws of Paradise.
> The Saint o...

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Henry Phage  
[http://www.neilgaiman.info/Teknophage](http://www.neilgaiman.info/Teknophage)

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**Post date:** [August 7, 2007, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/_______-vs-_______-comic-book-all-time-battle-the-next-doper-decides/414382/87 "2007-08-07T21:59:59Z")

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From that writeup, I don’t see anything that gives Phage any kind of leverage over the Saint. He doesn’t seem to be able to throw anything at the Saint that he couldn’t shake off, and seems to be technically alive, so the Saint could kill him.

Monster Mash-up!  
DC’s Frankenstein vs Marvel’s Dracula

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[QUOTE=Menocchio]  
From that writeup, I don’t see anything that gives Phage any kind of leverage over the Saint. He doesn’t seem to be able to throw anything at the Saint that he couldn’t shake off, and seems to be technically alive, so the Saint could kill him.

Monster Mash-up!  
DC’s Frankenstein vs Marvel’s Dracula  
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On general principle, Dracula sucks the life out of Frankenstein’s Monster.

Samaritan vs. Superman?

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[QUOTE=DiggitCamara]  
On general principle, Dracula sucks the life out of Frankenstein’s Monster.

Samaritan vs. Superman?  
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The impression I have of Samaritan is that while he will fight he spends almost all of his time dealing with natural disasters and low key events. Superman has the fighting experience that he doesn’t and I think it gives Superman the edge in this. Besides, you know Samaritan is going to be distracted by a dozen things during the fight.

Superman Emergency Squad vs. The Legion of Super-Pets

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[QUOTE=Just Some Guy]  
The impression I have of Samaritan is that while he will fight he spends almost all of his time dealing with natural disasters and low key events. Superman has the fighting experience that he doesn’t and I think it gives Superman the edge in this. Besides, you know Samaritan is going to be distracted by a dozen things during the fight.

Superman Emergency Squad vs. The Legion of Super-Pets  
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_Any-one or -thing_ beats the Legion of Super-pets.

I reiterate: John Constantine vs. Superman

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[QUOTE=SisterCoyote]  
_Any-one or -thing_ beats the Legion of Super-pets.

I reiterate: John Constantine vs. Superman  
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The Blue Laws prohibit reiterating in a public place without a Realotor, a CPA & a Rabbi or Priest in attendance. But, I digress.

Superman. He’s got a _long_ track record of victories.

Godzilla (Dark Horse Comics version) vs. the Hulk.

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[QUOTE=Bosda Di’Chi of Tricor]  
The Blue Laws prohibit reiterating in a public place without a Realotor, a CPA & a Rabbi or Priest in attendance. But, I digress.

Superman. He’s got a _long_ track record of victories.

Godzilla (Dark Horse Comics version) vs. the Hulk.  
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Godzilla. He has the advange of (1) being 400 feet tall, (b) having long-range attacks, and (iii) being freaking Godzilla.

Taskmaster vs. Deathstroke.

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[QUOTE=Skald the Rhymer]  
Godzilla. He has the advange of (1) being 400 feet tall, (b) having long-range attacks, and (iii) being freaking Godzilla.

Taskmaster vs. Deathstroke.  
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Deathstroke. He might be thrown for a bit, it wouldn’t be a quick fight, but he’d pretty well stomp Tasky. He’s just the better physical specimen.  
Hellboy vs. Blue Devil.

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[QUOTE=Love Rhombus]

Hellboy vs. Blue Devil.  
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Hellyboy. He’s a lot more durable.

Silver Surfer v. Superman

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How did we get this far without anyone mentioning:

Deadpool vs. Deathstroke

Slade vs. Wade!

Battle of the eyespots!

The Merc with the mouth goes toe to toe with the Terminator!!

dismemberments galore!!! 😃😃

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[QUOTE=Lochdale]  
Hellyboy. He’s a lot more durable.

Silver Surfer v. Superman  
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Surfer is too passive to win.

You gotta be agressive! Kal-El takes home the nickels.  
King Kong (from the recent film) vs Spiderman.

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[QUOTE=Enola Straight]  
IIRC, Namor can fly…tactically more important than telepathic communication with marine species.

Namor wastes Aquaman.

The Saint of Killers

> **[Saint of Killers](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_of_Killers)**
>
> The Saint of Killers is a fictional character who appears in the comic book series Preacher, published by Vertigo Comics in 1995. Writer Garth Ennis created the Saint of Killers with artist Steve Dillon. The Saint is described as "a grim, taciturn, implacable killing machine" with supernatural abilities involving divinity, immortality, and influence over Heaven and Hell. His goals typically center on bringing down individuals through destruction and death by the laws of Paradise. The Saint of K...

vs  
Henry Phage

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Sigh. This is the second time in this thread that my post got skipped over, as though it didn’t exist. (The first time was admittedly caused by a simulpost, though.)

Double sigh.

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I believe three posts have gotten skipped over. I’ll take 'em in order.

1.Phantom Stranger vs. The Blond Phantom

Winner: The Phantom Stranger is just so much cooler. I love the idea of the character so he gets the rub.

1. Deadpool vs. Deathstroke

Winner: Damn. I’m going to pick Deadpool in the upset. If both guys went into the fight blind, Wade’s healing factor is the only thing that saves him.

1. Spiderman vs. King Kong

Spiderman gets squashed. Or eaten. Or both.

Now…one of mine that was skipped over…

Madman vs. Madcap

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[QUOTE=I’m No Saint]  
I believe three posts have gotten skipped over. I’ll take 'em in order.

1.Phantom Stranger vs. The Blond Phantom

Winner: The Phantom Stranger is just so much cooler. I love the idea of the character so he gets the rub.  
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Actually, it was the Phantom Lady vs. the Blonde Phantom. Still, the Phantom Stranger is indeed way cool.

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[QUOTE=JThunder]  
Actually, it was the Phantom Lady vs. the Blonde Phantom. Still, the Phantom Stranger is indeed way cool.  
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Sorry about that, I just took a quick glance. I’ll give the victory to the Blonde Phantom because I don’t like Phantom Lady’s sunglasses.

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