# A 17 day vacation? Are you shitting me? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 4, 2017, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-17-day-vacation-are-you-shitting-me/792787 "2017-08-04T17:14:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2017, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-17-day-vacation-are-you-shitting-me/792787/101 "2017-08-06T00:39:22Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > A few people probably were influenced by his explicit promise to skip golfing and vacations and stay in the WH working. I wonder how they’re feeling about this betrayal. “Hypocrisy? I don’t see no stinkin’ hypocrisy! Obama was a Muslim! Fake news! E-mails! Lock her up! Benghazi! Bill was an adulterer!” ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2017, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-17-day-vacation-are-you-shitting-me/792787/102 "2017-08-06T00:42:19Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > A few people probably were influenced by his explicit promise to skip golfing and vacations and stay in the WH working. I wonder how they’re feeling about this betrayal. I know. Can even the trumpiest trumpkin defend this? This isn’t about other presidents, or whether he earned the time off. He specifically stated that he wouldn’t take vacations or have time for golf during the campaign. Many people thought he was full of shit when he said stuff like that, but there are folks out there that ate ate it up and applauded it. Are any of those people willing to call Trump a bullshitter on this fairly minor point or are they, like the president, just going to pretend like he never said it. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2017, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-17-day-vacation-are-you-shitting-me/792787/103 "2017-08-06T01:27:02Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > A few people probably were influenced by his explicit promise to skip golfing and vacations and stay in the WH working. I wonder how they’re feeling about this betrayal. Looks as though **doorhinge** doesn’t mind. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2017, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-17-day-vacation-are-you-shitting-me/792787/104 "2017-08-06T03:26:29Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Why do haters such as yourself believe it’s OK to denigrate the gay lifestyle by using it as insult? What makes you think I was denigrating it? Now get busy, pumpkin. Yes, I really am a fireman…I got the hat and everything. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2017, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-17-day-vacation-are-you-shitting-me/792787/105 "2017-08-06T03:39:10Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > Looks as though **doorhinge** doesn’t mind. **Doorhinge** wouldn’t mind if he was run over by Trump’s limo as long as libtards are upset. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2017, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-17-day-vacation-are-you-shitting-me/792787/106 "2017-08-06T03:50:22Z")
> [@Lance\_Turbo](#): > > I know. Can even the trumpiest trumpkin defend this? > > This isn’t about other presidents, or whether he earned the time off. He specifically stated that he wouldn’t take vacations or have time for golf during the campaign. Many people thought he was full of shit when he said stuff like that, but there are folks out there that ate ate it up and applauded it. Are any of those people willing to call Trump a bullshitter on this fairly minor point or are they, like the president, just going to pretend like he never said it. Trump supporters aren’t very well informed and are not very bright. Just sayin’. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2017, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-17-day-vacation-are-you-shitting-me/792787/107 "2017-08-06T05:05:03Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > **Doorhinge** wouldn’t mind if he was run over by Trump’s limo as long as libtards are upset. Why would anyone be upset? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2017, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-17-day-vacation-are-you-shitting-me/792787/108 "2017-08-06T05:08:50Z")
> [@The\_Tooth](#): > > Why would anyone be upset? Only us SDMB libtards know who **Doorhinge** is. To everyone else, he’s a faceless nobody. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2017, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-17-day-vacation-are-you-shitting-me/792787/109 "2017-08-06T05:09:41Z")
Limo’s not a hybrid. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2017, 10:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-17-day-vacation-are-you-shitting-me/792787/110 "2017-08-06T10:09:23Z")
Given that there is barely even incidental contact between Trump and the _job_ of being the President, what does ‘vacation’ even _mean_ for him? He gets to be away from DC and play golf during the week instead of just on weekends. That’s about it, AFAICT. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2017, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-17-day-vacation-are-you-shitting-me/792787/111 "2017-08-06T10:57:22Z")
Of course, the real problem here is that most Americans can’t take a 17-day vacation, either because they literally don’t get any paid vacation, or get paid vacation but are lucky to be allowed to take that much at once. If anything good could come from Trump’s vacation, it would be people saying to Congress, “we all ought to have paid vacation _by right_. Now make it happen.” ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2017, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-17-day-vacation-are-you-shitting-me/792787/112 "2017-08-06T19:01:47Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > Of course, the real problem here is that most Americans can’t take a 17-day vacation, either because they literally don’t get any paid vacation, or get paid vacation but are lucky to be allowed to take that much at once. > > If anything good could come from Trump’s vacation, it would be people saying to Congress, “we all ought to have paid vacation _by right_. Now make it happen.” Yeah, there’s an issue to really Republicans. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2017, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-17-day-vacation-are-you-shitting-me/792787/113 "2017-08-06T21:55:58Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > Of course, the real problem here is that most Americans can’t take a 17-day vacation, either because they literally don’t get any paid vacation, or get paid vacation but are lucky to be allowed to take that much at once. I’m not sure why that is the “real problem”. Is it your contention that the US president should not be afforded something unless most Americans are afforded the same thing? Most Americans don’t make anywhere near 400k/year. Most Americans don’t get free housing, food and transportation. Most Americans don’t get Secret Service protection, or have streets cleared for them when they get around by car. Plus, this is going to be a working vacation to some point, even for Trump. A certain amount of work is going to follow him whether he wants it to or not. I think the hypocrisy angle is a better argument, but of course we know Trump is oblivious to that. Had he not shot off his mouth, I’m sure he’d still get criticized, but it wouldn’t ring as true as the criticism of him doing what he said he wouldn’t do. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2017, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-17-day-vacation-are-you-shitting-me/792787/114 "2017-08-06T23:16:48Z")
> [@Evan\_Drake](#): > > Srsly ? > Kind of like those weird fantasies of Obama being kicked out of the White House and all his acts nullified because of a birth certificate — idle reveries. A fellow can dream, can’t he? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2017, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-17-day-vacation-are-you-shitting-me/792787/115 "2017-08-06T23:19:58Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > **Doorhinge** wouldn’t mind if he was run over by Trump’s limo as long as libtards are upset. Is this like that briar patch thing? In THAT case Oh please Resident Chump! Please don’t run doorhinge over with your limo! Please don’t say what was that and back up over him to get another look! 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Evan\_Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b487fb/32.png) [@Evan\_Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evan_Drake)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2017, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-17-day-vacation-are-you-shitting-me/792787/116 "2017-08-06T23:36:00Z")
Dreams give us hope. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2017, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-17-day-vacation-are-you-shitting-me/792787/117 "2017-08-07T01:17:49Z")
Complaining about Trump going on vacation is like complaining about a restaurant’s lousy food _and_ small portions. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2017, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-17-day-vacation-are-you-shitting-me/792787/118 "2017-08-07T03:26:12Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Plus, this is going to be a working vacation to some point, even for Trump. A certain amount of work is going to follow him whether he wants it to or not. You know, for any other president, I’m sure you’d be right. I can’t imagine Obama, or Bush, et al. completely forgoing all the business of their office. Even on vacation I think they’d get a daily briefing of some kind, meet with a local congressman or senator, make a few phone calls, etc. I can imagine it of Trump. I’m sure there’ll be someone following him around with the football, and he’ll be reachable 24/7 in case of a crisis; but just waking up, hitting the links, having lunch, and skipping all business, I can totally see it. ---
**Author:** ![betonbill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b782af/32.png) [@betonbill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/betonbill)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2017, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-17-day-vacation-are-you-shitting-me/792787/119 "2017-08-07T04:48:32Z")
I’m wondering if he’s feeling that since he’s playing the presidential role as a freebie to the USA that he’s entitled to do just as little as he can get away with. Oh, and as far as working, it seems that he’s crashing a whole lot of weddings on the clubhouse grounds. Wondering what all the kiddies, grandkids, and Melania and Co. do with all that time at the golf course? It’s not like they can jet away to NYC or go shopping or take in a show–and the golf course seems like it’s out in the boonies. Meanwhile the “dump” is probably being gold plated inside and out. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2017, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-17-day-vacation-are-you-shitting-me/792787/120 "2017-08-07T05:19:57Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > You know, for any other president, I’m sure you’d be right. I can’t imagine Obama, or Bush, et al. completely forgoing all the business of their office. Even on vacation I think they’d get a daily briefing of some kind, meet with a local congressman or senator, make a few phone calls, etc. I can imagine it of Trump. I’m sure there’ll be someone following him around with the football, and he’ll be reachable 24/7 in case of a crisis; but just waking up, hitting the links, having lunch, and skipping all business, I can totally see it. With all due respect, that speaks to the limitations of your imagination, not to the reality of the job. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-17-day-vacation-are-you-shitting-me/792787.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-17-day-vacation-are-you-shitting-me/792787.md?page=7)