# A 90-MINUTE "Will & Grace?!" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 21, 2002, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-90-minute-will-grace/137934 "2002-11-21T14:13:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-90-minute-will-grace/137934/1 "2002-11-21T14:13:26Z")
Ninety goddam minutes to see if Suzy Parker (whatever the hell her name is) is going to marry Harry Connick, Jr. (I vote “no”)? I mean, _It Happened One Night_ isn’t even 90 minutes long! I can take a half-hour of _Will & Grace_ every so often, if nothing better is going on in my life—but 90 minutes?! Tear-drenched “very special episodes” are unbearable enough, but come _on_—these writers do _not_ have 90 minutes of watchable material in them! ---
**Author:** ![MsRobyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MsRobyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsRobyn)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-90-minute-will-grace/137934/2 "2002-11-21T14:46:05Z")
It’s called “Sweeps Month”, Eve. Nothing more or less. Robin ---
**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-90-minute-will-grace/137934/3 "2002-11-21T14:53:35Z")
Pretty ineffective “sweep,” in my case. I might very well watch a 30-minute _Will & Grace_. But an hour and a half? Feh. I’ll tune in the last five minutes to see how and why the wedding fell through. Maybe. ---
**Author:** ![UrbanChic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9dc877/32.png) [@UrbanChic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UrbanChic)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-90-minute-will-grace/137934/4 "2002-11-21T14:59:46Z")
I am _so_ with you Eve. I stopped watching _Will & Grace_ after one-too-many 'on a very special _Will & Grace_…" commercials. So, have they starting airing the commercials set to Enya music yet, a la _Friends_? ---
**Author:** ![Silentgoldfish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@Silentgoldfish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silentgoldfish)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-90-minute-will-grace/137934/5 "2002-11-21T15:05:51Z")
Don’t you hate it when comedies start taking themselves too seriously? ---
**Author:** ![Sunshine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Sunshine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunshine)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-90-minute-will-grace/137934/6 "2002-11-21T15:39:04Z")
Not to mention that we all KNOW she’s not actually going to marry him, so why waste 90 minutes? ---
**Author:** ![Trion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@Trion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trion)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-90-minute-will-grace/137934/7 "2002-11-21T15:55:57Z")
First of all, according to my TV Guide, Will and Grace is really only an hour followed by a 30 minute clip show. Secondly, I think Grace will marry Leo. Then Leo will die or they will somehow get rid of him. And then Grace will find herself pregnant and she’ll have to raise the baby with Will. Now Grace is a tragic Widow - or fleeing a bad marriage or whatever - and is getting help with her non-bastard child from her good friend. Without these complicated plot shennanigans Grace would have made an _immoral lifestyle choice_ by having a baby out of wedlock with a gay man. (sarcasm) NBC: Having Our Cake and Eating it Too. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-90-minute-will-grace/137934/8 "2002-11-21T16:08:37Z")
Well, gosh. If watching 22 minutes of making fun of gay men is funny, just imagine how hilarious 66 minutes of it will be! ---
**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-90-minute-will-grace/137934/9 "2002-11-21T16:14:10Z")
Omigod, a _clip show?_ Why don’t they just visit our apartments one by one and beat us mercilessly over the head with the September issue of _Vogue_? ---
**Author:** ![h.sapiens](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e0b2c6/32.png) [@h.sapiens](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/h.sapiens)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-90-minute-will-grace/137934/10 "2002-11-21T17:25:04Z")
What all this means to me is _no Scrubs tonight_! I’d rather watch an average episode of Scrubs than 90 minutes of the best very-special-Will-and-Grace ever. ---
**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-90-minute-will-grace/137934/11 "2002-11-21T17:36:42Z")
Maybe Harry Connick, Jr., will suddenly out himself and jump Will, and they’ll hump away for 90 minutes? It would make up for the total lack of gay romance for the last 20 years, or however long that show has been on . . . ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-90-minute-will-grace/137934/12 "2002-11-21T17:50:12Z")
Oh well, I’m going to be watching CSI. ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-90-minute-will-grace/137934/13 "2002-11-21T18:13:39Z")
So I saw the Today show (in the afternoon here) and they had all the cast on proming the Very Speical Episode. Can someone tell me if any of the actors have same sexual orientation they play on the show? It tickles me to no end that “Niles Crane” is gay\* although he plays a straight. (\*not that is anything worng with that) ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-90-minute-will-grace/137934/14 "2002-11-21T18:15:23Z")
Yeah. The wonder of sweeps month. The only time of the season where Niles Crane is made bed-ridden (okay, an exageration) and Daphne (so is it Daphne Crane now, or still Daphne Moon?) is reduced to slamming fire-extinguishers into vending machines, all for ratings. Why can’t a comedy just be funny, and not try to bridge the extremely awkard line between drama and amusement? ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-90-minute-will-grace/137934/15 "2002-11-21T18:15:36Z")
Eh, I just bought the DVDsof _Glengarry Glen Ross_\* and _Reign of Fire_\*, so I’ll be getting my manly, shirtless studs fighting dragons AND an all-male cast speaking David Mamet’s dialogue, which I’m willing to beat is just a teensier bit more sophisticated than some NBC hack’s. ---
**Author:** ![UrbanChic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9dc877/32.png) [@UrbanChic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UrbanChic)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-90-minute-will-grace/137934/16 "2002-11-21T18:24:32Z")
You got the _Glengarry Glen Ross_ DVD before I did? I am so jealous. [sub]At least I can still code better than you…[/sub] I dig Mamet so much that I bought the completely predictable _Heist_. ---
**Author:** ![Kiki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dc4da7/32.png) [@Kiki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kiki)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-90-minute-will-grace/137934/17 "2002-11-21T19:22:39Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Paul in Saudi \* > \*\*So I saw the Today show (in the afternoon here) and they had all the cast on proming the Very Speical Episode. Can someone tell me if any of the actors have same sexual orientation they play on the show? > > It tickles me to no end that “Niles Crane” is gay\* although he plays a straight. > > (\*not that is anything worng with that) \*\* I’m pretty sure that the guy that plays Will is straight. I think he and his wife just had a baby not too long ago. I think Jack is straight in real life too… but I’m not 100% sure. As for Niles being gay in real life… I had no idea. I’ve never read anything about his personal life… everything I’ve read/seen on t.v. about him has been in regard to the show. ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-90-minute-will-grace/137934/18 "2002-11-21T19:26:30Z")
No, the Niles guy is gay, and so I find the show much funnier. ---
**Author:** ![Kiki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dc4da7/32.png) [@Kiki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kiki)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-90-minute-will-grace/137934/19 "2002-11-21T19:28:51Z")
So Niles (the character) is gay? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Peach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/67e7ee/32.png) [@Peach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peach)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-90-minute-will-grace/137934/20 "2002-11-21T19:30:41Z")
the show got real boring real fast when they added drama to the relationships. I loved the show when they were all carefree and funny. but now, ugh! [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-90-minute-will-grace/137934.md?page=2)