# A 90-MINUTE "Will & Grace?!" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 21, 2002, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-90-minute-will-grace/137934 "2002-11-21T14:13:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-90-minute-will-grace/137934/21 "2002-11-21T19:56:45Z")
> [@](#): > > No, the Niles guy is gay, and so I find the show much funnier. I didn’t know that, but I know that the actor who plays Bulldog is gay. As for WIll and Grace – the actor who plays Will is straight. I’m not sure about Jack – I had read somewhere that the actor was gay, too, but somebody here seems to have heard otherwise? Sorry, I don’t have a cite, so I can’t say it definitively. ---
**Author:** ![NotWithoutRage](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/22d042/32.png) [@NotWithoutRage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NotWithoutRage)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-90-minute-will-grace/137934/22 "2002-11-21T20:43:31Z")
Sean Hayes (Jack) is not open about his sexuality, as a policy. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-90-minute-will-grace/137934/23 "2002-11-21T20:46:35Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Monstre \* > \*\*As for WIll and Grace – the actor who plays Will is straight. I’m not sure about Jack – I had read somewhere that the actor was gay, too, but somebody here seems to have heard otherwise? Sorry, I don’t have a cite, so I can’t say it definitively. \*\* Eric McCormack (Will) is straight. He has been married to wife Janet for five years now. Everyone seems to assume Sean Hayes (Jack) is gay, but he has never actually said so that I can find. His public line has always been that he won’t say because he doesn’t want to pass up either role (he’s had a lot of straight roles, too.) Hayes GOT the role in part because of a role in the indie film “Billy’s Hollywood Screen Kis,” but he’s on record as saying he’s trying not to be typecast, and actively seeks out other kinds of role. ---
**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-90-minute-will-grace/137934/24 "2002-11-21T20:59:00Z")
[Homer Simpson] Pot makes anything funny…even that show that’s on after Friends. [/Homer Simpson] ---
**Author:** ![ChuckForbin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecb155/32.png) [@ChuckForbin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChuckForbin)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-90-minute-will-grace/137934/25 "2002-11-21T21:12:28Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Trion \* > \*\*Secondly, I think Grace will marry Leo. Then Leo will die or they will somehow get rid of him. And then Grace will find herself pregnant and she’ll have to raise the baby with Will. > > NBC: Having Our Cake and Eating it Too. \*\* Trion - Very clever. I think you might be onto something, I wouldn’t be surprised if you are exactly right. We’ll probably have to wait a while to find out. Not to dredge up the Jump The Shark cliches, but 1] Too many shows have had the “almost” wedding and 2] A baby will kill this otherwise quite funny show. ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-90-minute-will-grace/137934/26 "2002-11-21T21:30:58Z")
See, this is why **Seinfeld** had its two rules: 1)No hugs, and 2) Nobody learns any lessons. When I watch a comedy, I want to laugh, I don’t want to watch a mini-soap opera. ---
**Author:** ![sj2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@sj2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sj2)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-90-minute-will-grace/137934/27 "2002-11-21T22:07:28Z")
I thought John Mahoney was gay? I swore I heard that. Not the David Hyde Pierce outing though… ---
**Author:** ![Neidhart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Neidhart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neidhart)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-90-minute-will-grace/137934/28 "2002-11-21T22:26:55Z")
I know the fellow who plays “Bulldog” is gay. ---
**Author:** ![Peach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/67e7ee/32.png) [@Peach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peach)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-90-minute-will-grace/137934/29 "2002-11-21T22:56:51Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by gobear \* > \*\*See, this is why **Seinfeld** had its two rules: 1)No hugs, and 2) Nobody learns any lessons. When I watch a comedy, I want to laugh, I don’t want to watch a mini-soap opera. \*\* exactly! ---
**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-90-minute-will-grace/137934/30 "2002-11-21T23:49:03Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by JuanitaTech \* > \*\*So, have they starting airing the commercials set to Enya music yet, a la _Friends_? \*\* Worse. Celine Dion. ---
**Author:** ![Merejane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@Merejane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merejane)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2002, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-90-minute-will-grace/137934/31 "2002-11-22T00:57:21Z")
According to [Newsday.com](http://Newsday.com)’s [Tonight on TV](http://www.newsday.com/entertainment/tv/ny-p2tv3010844nov21,0,753097.story?coll=ny%2Dtelevision%2Dheadlines), “In the show’s one-hour 100th episode, Grace and Leo appear to be getting married - but it’s actually a TV-ratings stunt hosted by Katie Couric (playing herself).” ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2002, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-90-minute-will-grace/137934/32 "2002-11-22T12:06:28Z")
Forgive me for not being clear. The guy who plays Niles Crane (the actor) is gay. The character is straight and so I find this a great character to watch. (How do gay people feel about W&G? I (as a hetrosectarian) feel a little guilty laughing at some of the shows.) ---
**Author:** ![sugaree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@sugaree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sugaree)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2002, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-90-minute-will-grace/137934/33 "2002-11-22T12:33:36Z")
**Paul** , I don’t think that David Hyde-Pierce (Niles) has ever commented on his sexuality. ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2002, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-90-minute-will-grace/137934/34 "2002-11-22T12:55:53Z")
Actualy, bDavid Hyde-Pierce’s\*\* sexuality isn’t that secret; he and his partner live together in West Hollywood. ---
**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2002, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-90-minute-will-grace/137934/35 "2002-11-22T14:07:10Z")
Well, I watched the last few minutes of _Will & Grace_ last night. They shoulda jumped. ---
**Author:** ![Jimson\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/838e76/32.png) [@Jimson\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimson_Jim)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2002, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-90-minute-will-grace/137934/36 "2002-11-22T14:38:32Z")
I only watch Will and Grace to watch Karen. I know she’s copied from AbFab but she gets the best lines. ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2002, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-90-minute-will-grace/137934/37 "2002-11-22T16:52:52Z")
Sean Hayes did comment publicly about his (homo)sexuality at around the time of BHSK but has since returned to the closet. Apropos of nothing, I went to school with Sean, although we did not travel in the same circles (and he never came to the campus queer meetings). ---
**Author:** ![Judith\_Prietht](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b19c9b/32.png) [@Judith\_Prietht](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Judith_Prietht)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2002, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-90-minute-will-grace/137934/38 "2002-11-22T17:06:15Z")
I find a lot more to laugh at in hour-long dramas than on sitcoms, these days. I flipped to W&G in the beginning of the episode long enough to hear Debra Messing screeching repeatedly “I’m the BRIDE!!! I’m the BRIDE!!!” Great. ---
**Author:** ![SpoilerVirgin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4491bb/32.png) [@SpoilerVirgin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpoilerVirgin)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2002, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-90-minute-will-grace/137934/39 "2002-11-22T17:15:51Z")
I didn’t watch the 90-minutes of _Will & Grace_, although I flipped past it at a moment when Jack was making a wedding toast. Then I went to bed, and dreamed that there was some kind of “gay week” on television (similar to Black History Month), in which all the shows were featuring gay married couples (apparently this was now legal and commonplace in the U.S.). I distinctly remember watching parts of both _The Price is Right_ and _Wheel of Fortune_ in which all of the contestants were gay married couples. I’d love to see this become such a non-issue that the IMDB would include a “sexual orientation” category and people wouldn’t need to speculate. In my dreams. ---
**Author:** ![Eats\_Crayons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/278dde/32.png) [@Eats\_Crayons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eats_Crayons)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2002, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-90-minute-will-grace/137934/40 "2002-11-22T17:19:24Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by sj2 \* > \*\*I thought John Mahoney was gay? I swore I heard that. Not the David Hyde Pierce outing though… \*\* Way back when, during the first or second season of _Frasier_ David Hyde Pierce was interviewed by… (argh, wracking brain) … I THINK it was “The Advocate” about being “out” as an actor in the TV industry. I remember the photo spread more than the article itself because DHP had a smarmy smirk and was walking barefoot across his lawn and he made it look really decadent. Dan Butler, who plays Bulldog, is more public about his sexuality because he is more involved in community activism. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-90-minute-will-grace/137934.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-90-minute-will-grace/137934.md?page=3)