# a baseball thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-baseball-thread/35831>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [October 5, 2000, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-baseball-thread/35831 "2000-10-05T19:15:23Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![mouthbreather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@mouthbreather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mouthbreather)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2000, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-baseball-thread/35831/21 "2000-10-06T16:51:00Z")

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> \*Originally posted by quasar \*  
> \<crazy details of destroying the world snipped\>…  
> Now, if that doesn’t adequately placate your destructive thirsts I can’t imagine what will.

quasar, you’re moderately scary.

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**Author:** ![Crunchy\_Frog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ebca7d/32.png) [@Crunchy\_Frog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crunchy_Frog)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2000, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-baseball-thread/35831/22 "2000-10-06T17:14:09Z")

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> \*Originally posted by EJsGirl \*  
> **But did you see my boy Jimmy Edmonds for St. Louis? He can really swing it, and it just breaks my heart that he couldn’t win a ring in CA…**

How about that catch he made over his shoulder? And as for swinging - he would be so much better if he didn’t strike out so much. I’m amazed that he managed a .295 batting average with 167 strike outs this year - IIRC that’s more than any other Cardinal ever. If he only learned some patience at the plate and got some walks occasionally (103 walks this year) he would be so much more valuable batting in front of McGwire next year.

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**Author:** ![Montfort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Montfort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Montfort)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2000, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-baseball-thread/35831/23 "2000-10-06T23:04:00Z")

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> \*Originally posted by PatrickM \*  
> **Montfort, being a Phillies’ fan, what do you have against my beloved Indians? The Phils and the Tribe only play each other during Grapefruit League games in March.**

Mostly, it has to do with having a few ex-girlfriends from Ohio, and they were die-hard Tribe fans. I just don’t like them.

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**Author:** ![deb2world](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7cd45c/32.png) [@deb2world](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deb2world)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2000, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-baseball-thread/35831/24 "2000-10-06T23:09:05Z")

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Hey, so far I am 1:4 with WhiteSox being taken down by Seattle, awaiting rest of the results.

deb2world rules 😃

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2000, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-baseball-thread/35831/25 "2000-10-07T02:20:37Z")

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Kyla wrote:

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> Giants play-by-play: JT Snow hit a three-run homer just now (like a minute after I made that last post) and the game is tied in the bottom of the ninth!

… and was un-tied in the top of the tenth. Dog gone it.

If the Giants do manage to win this series, and the next, every spoerts reporter in the nation will be screaming, “The Giants win the pennant! The Giants win the pennant! The Giants win the pennant! The Giants win the pennant!”

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**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2000, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-baseball-thread/35831/26 "2000-10-07T04:42:21Z")

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Yeah, except that isn’t the pennant. It’s the…NLDS Championship or something dumb. They have to finish off the Mets and then beat the Cardinals to win the pennant.

Besides, it should be illegal for anyone but Russ Hodges to say “the Giants win the pennant! The Giants win the pennant!” And since he’s dead, I would not be against repeated playing of that clip.

😃

Pit Moment: WTF was Shawn Estes thinking in the third inning yesterday? First it looks like he’s broken up an inning-ending double play and there are runners at first and second with one out - but cause he is such an idiot, he didn’t slide into second, he crashed into it, turning his ankle. And then, to really prove what a complete dumbass he is, he got up and hopped around in the infield in pain - without calling time out! Hi, the second baseman is allowed to tag you when you walk (or hop) away from the base, you moron!

BTW, stupid A’s! You’re supposed to _beat_ the Yankees. Not lose, _win_.

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**Author:** ![Eo\_Echo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ebca7d/32.png) [@Eo\_Echo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eo_Echo)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2000, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-baseball-thread/35831/27 "2000-10-07T22:09:16Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Kyla \*  
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> > [I’m a diehard American League man until the day I die]).
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> I like this sentence. Sure, it’s a little redundant, but it _really_ gets the point across.\*\*

Kyla, the redundancy was deliberate, and effective obviously 🙂

Also, I’ve changed my mind. I don’t think the Giants are going to pull it out. However, I think the Cardinals have a shot. They looked really good against the Braves today.

Oh, also: Go A’s. Dammit. If the Yankees win, much as it pains me to say, they’ll probably beat the Mariners in the CS.

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**Author:** ![stuyguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@stuyguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stuyguy)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2000, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-baseball-thread/35831/28 "2000-10-07T23:04:55Z")

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All the talk of a subway series (boy, wouldn’t that be great, though?) reminded me of a milestone I heard mentioned on the local news a day or two ago.

Thursday (I think) was the 45th anniversary of the day the Brooklyn Dodgers won their one and only World Series title, beating the hated Yankees after so many previous tries.

Of course this was all before my time, but the news made me feel both deeply happy and sad for Dem Bums, nonetheless.

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**Author:** ![JuanDeCuba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a87d85/32.png) [@JuanDeCuba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JuanDeCuba)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2000, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-baseball-thread/35831/29 "2000-10-08T05:51:49Z")

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Maybe the Yankees could unload Clemens to lower the payroll? The only rocket he reminds me of it Apollo 13. Its no coincidence that both of our losses came with him on the mound. Does anyone agree or am I just too bitter because of all his years with the Sox and giving up Wells to get him?

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2000, 10:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-baseball-thread/35831/30 "2000-10-08T10:29:01Z")

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Christ, could Bonds be any lamer? He left a small village on the basepads tonight. And Kent strikes out on 3 pitches and never takes the bat off his shoulders!  
**Go Cards!!!**

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**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2000, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-baseball-thread/35831/31 "2000-10-08T12:33:34Z")

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i think the real question is “a’s or giants?”

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**Author:** ![shimmery](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d9b06d/32.png) [@shimmery](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shimmery)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2000, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-baseball-thread/35831/32 "2000-10-08T15:50:41Z")

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So… you guys mostly hate the Yankees? I hope they beat the A’s tonight (Last night was embarrassing!), but if they have to lose to someone, I wouldn’t mind it being the Mariners. I didn’t like them that much with Griffey but now, I don’t know…there’s just something so likeable about them. Also I hope the Yanks trade Clemens - his only real value is that some batters are intimidated by him, but now I think everyone realizes that he sucks. I hope they don’t trade Brosius though.

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**Author:** ![Mullinator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@Mullinator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mullinator)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2000, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-baseball-thread/35831/33 "2000-10-09T00:05:23Z")

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If this is a baseball thread, then I must add…

Go Cubs.  
2001 is so our year.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2000, 9:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-baseball-thread/35831/34 "2000-10-09T09:28:26Z")

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2 New York teams advancing! Darn it!Darn it!Darn it!Darn it!Darn it!Darn it!Darn it!Darn it!Darn it!Darn it!Darn it!

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**Author:** ![Soup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/977dab/32.png) [@Soup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soup)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2000, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-baseball-thread/35831/35 "2000-10-09T13:13:57Z")

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Clemens=overated (see what i said about him [in this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=40250)).

Now that Torre brought in Hernandez for relief, who’s going to pitch Game 1 one Tuesday? Clemens on three days rest again? Hernandez on two? My guess is Cone, with Naegle and Gooden for long relief. Then Clemens, Petitte, Hernandez.

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**Author:** ![BobT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e8cbc/32.png) [@BobT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobT)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2000, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-baseball-thread/35831/36 "2000-10-09T18:12:32Z")

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Nope, Naegle will pitch Game 1. Probably Hernandez in Game 2.  
I doubt Torre will be starting any of his pitchers on 3 days rest unless it’s an emergency as Clemens and Pettitte were ineffective against Oakland on short rest.

Unfortunately, Gil Heredia was ineffective no matter how much rest he was given.

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**Author:** ![Soup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/977dab/32.png) [@Soup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soup)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2000, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-baseball-thread/35831/37 "2000-10-09T18:53:14Z")

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You’re right, BobT. I just read it’ll be Naegle. Guess I was being sentimental regarding Cone.

Hopefully Petitte will go in Game 3, so he’ll be available for a Game 7.

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2000, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-baseball-thread/35831/38 "2000-10-09T23:27:51Z")

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_sigh_ The Yankees have advanced to the AL championship series yet again. I think I’ll go soak my head in the toilet bowl for a while.

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2000, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-baseball-thread/35831/39 "2000-10-09T23:30:43Z")

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Mullinator wrote:

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> Go Cubs.  
> 2001 is so our year.

Q. What’s the definition of a moral dilemma?  
A. The Red Sox playing against the Cubs in the World Series.

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**Author:** ![JuanDeCuba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a87d85/32.png) [@JuanDeCuba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JuanDeCuba)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2000, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-baseball-thread/35831/40 "2000-10-10T01:54:12Z")

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BobT, I would say the same about Clemens.

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