# A big hand for Stoid, she ate a book. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 9, 2011, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-big-hand-for-stoid-she-ate-a-book/574063 "2011-03-09T16:49:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-big-hand-for-stoid-she-ate-a-book/574063/1 "2011-03-09T16:49:29Z")
I must be honest, I thought this would have ended up in the pit about a week ago. After reading **Stoids** slabbering in this thread [I unhappily report that I am right about obesity and diet (Very long) - Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=597317), my first thoughts were, “Somebody Pit this fool already”. But you are a lazy bunch it seems, so I will just do it myself. **Stoid** , lets face it, you are a clown. A sad deluded clown wobbling through life desperately searching for that magical moment when you can exclaim to the world, “Its not my fault that I am fat, and here’s why!!!”. Well, sorry to burst your grease bubble **Stoid** , it isnt going to happen. But wait! Maybe it has happened? You see, **Stoid** has read a book. A wonderful fatastical book that tells **Stoid** exactly what she wants to hear, isnt that just super! Gary Tubbys book, “Good calories, bad Stoid”, says that peoples metabolisms are different, and that fat people are fat not because they love bacon, but because they are different, they just work differently. This cookbook is just the excuse **Stoid** needs for six pages of delusional rubbish such as: > [@](#): > > First, I have actually learned how to LOVE exercise, as long as I do it in a way to maximize my comfort level and: > [@](#): > > I feel completely freed now from the tyranny of “Fat people just eat too much.” in every form. Plus: > [@](#): > > I know I can eat bacon, chicken skin, hamburger and eggs fried in butter and lose weight Of course you can, **Stoid** you cad. And lets not forget the classic: > [@](#): > > And from now on, in any and every discussion of obesity and weight loss and what’s true and what’s not, I’m going to call bullshit on anyone who opens their mouth to say a single thing if they haven’t read this book from cover to cover Just to be clear, I have no problem with some of the ideas presented in that thread. I do think people are different, and will lose weight in different ways. But **Stoids** attitude is just fucking unreal. Post after post of TLDR bullshit all proclaiming that she is now an expert, that everybody is groping blindly in the dark until they have read _the book_, that others just dont understand, and all the while ignoring the fat elephant in the room that all of these words are just Stoids delusions talking. Her delusion that there is a simple answer out there and that this book has it. The delusion that she was never to blame, that she got fat because of her genes, and the delusion that she stays fat because dieting techniques were wrong, not because she just eats too much and does fuck all exercise. While I am at it. **Stoid** , your posting style sucks. Its been said before, but you only want to hear from people that agree with you. Everybody just gets ignored or spat at. If all you want is unrequited love why bother posting here, just get a fucking dog already. Then take it for a walk, who knows, that might help. I wonder if thats in the book? ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-big-hand-for-stoid-she-ate-a-book/574063/2 "2011-03-09T17:04:58Z")
She is an expert on weight loss just like she was an expert on appellate law. I suspect her diet will turn out pretty much as her lawsuit did. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-big-hand-for-stoid-she-ate-a-book/574063/3 "2011-03-09T17:12:44Z")
She’s fat, you’re stupid. She could lose weight. ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-big-hand-for-stoid-she-ate-a-book/574063/4 "2011-03-09T17:21:13Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > She’s fat, you’re stupid. She could lose weight. I will not be sober by the morning. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-big-hand-for-stoid-she-ate-a-book/574063/5 "2011-03-09T17:26:06Z")
> [@Rhythmdvl](#): > > I will not be sober by the morning. If you were my wife, I’d drink it. Wait, what are we doing here again? ---
**Author:** ![gravitycrash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@gravitycrash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gravitycrash)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-big-hand-for-stoid-she-ate-a-book/574063/6 "2011-03-09T17:27:53Z")
Prepare for the wrath of the Dope coming down on you bucketybuck. It’s not Stoid’s fault that she is fat because her genes have made her this way. Much as it’s not my fault that I’m an alcoholic because my genes made me this way (damn Polish and Irish blood)! You see this way nobody has to take responsibility for their lot in life because it’s all predetermined at birth. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-big-hand-for-stoid-she-ate-a-book/574063/7 "2011-03-09T17:28:08Z")
> [@](#): > > …Wait, what are we doing here again? Just Churchillin’, dog. ---
**Author:** ![Hero\_From\_Sector\_7G](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/65b543/32.png) [@Hero\_From\_Sector\_7G](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hero_From_Sector_7G)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-big-hand-for-stoid-she-ate-a-book/574063/8 "2011-03-09T17:31:33Z")
I’ve noticed that overweight people who want to lose weight often try a lot of different approaches before they find the one that works for them. There is a lot of misinformation out there that must be waded through. Some of us are further along the path of wading through the bullshit. It seems a bit gauche to look behind us and belittle the people on the same path. Good for Stoid for trying. And fuck you for being an asshole. ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-big-hand-for-stoid-she-ate-a-book/574063/9 "2011-03-09T17:31:33Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Just Churchillin’, dog. [What](http://www.churchill.com/churchill-dog/) ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-big-hand-for-stoid-she-ate-a-book/574063/10 "2011-03-09T17:32:17Z")
> [@Rhythmdvl](#): > > I will not be sober by the morning. You lose. Comrade. ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-big-hand-for-stoid-she-ate-a-book/574063/11 "2011-03-09T17:33:55Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Just Churchillin’, dog. You’re the Churchill now, dog. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-big-hand-for-stoid-she-ate-a-book/574063/12 "2011-03-09T17:35:26Z")
> [@gravitycrash](#): > > …You see this way nobody has to take responsibility for their lot in life because it’s all predetermined at birth. Relative to obesity, there is a considerable body of evidence to support such a claim. Are we to take it that you propose that all such research is nonsense, meant to no other end but to deny personal responsibility? You know this for a fact, you can prove it? ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-big-hand-for-stoid-she-ate-a-book/574063/13 "2011-03-09T17:42:22Z")
> [@gravitycrash](#): > > Prepare for the wrath of the Dope coming down on you bucketybuck. > > It’s not Stoid’s fault that she is fat because her genes have made her this way. Much as it’s not my fault that I’m an alcoholic because my genes made me this way (damn Polish and Irish blood)! > > You see this way nobody has to take responsibility for their lot in life because it’s all predetermined at birth. No, I think the vast majority of posters disagree with most of what she’s posted in that thread. But **bucketybuck** ’s OP is way too smugly prickish for many people to get excited about taking his side. Shit like “sorry to burst your [wait for it] _grease bubble_ [waits expectantly for laughter]…get it??? [crickets]” It just reeks of “ha ha, gotcha fatty!!!” Which is actually a lot douchier than someone being self-deluded. So, meh. ---
**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-big-hand-for-stoid-she-ate-a-book/574063/14 "2011-03-09T17:49:32Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Relative to obesity, there is a considerable body of evidence to support such a claim. Are we to take it that you propose that all such research is nonsense, meant to no other end but to deny personal responsibility? You know this for a fact, you can prove it? This may not be the thread for it - but the fact that rates of obesity have increased dramatically over the past few decades strongly suggest that this is not a genetic problem. Humans have not evolved to be fatter since the 1960s. Cite: [Clearinghouses & Health Information Center - NIDDK](http://www.win.niddk.nih.gov/statistics/) > [@](#): > > Q: How has the prevalence of overweight and obesity in adults changed over the years? > > A: The prevalence has steadily increased among both genders, all ages, all racial/ethnic groups, all educational levels, and all smoking levels.[6] From 1960–2 to 2005–6, the prevalence of obesity increased from 13.4 to 35.1 percent in U.S. adults age 20 to 74. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-big-hand-for-stoid-she-ate-a-book/574063/15 "2011-03-09T17:49:40Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Relative to obesity, there is a considerable body of evidence to support such a claim. Are we to take it that you propose that all such research is nonsense, meant to no other end but to deny personal responsibility? You know this for a fact, you can prove it? From the wikipedia article on obesity: “At an individual level, a combination of excessive caloric intake and a lack of physical activity is thought to explain most cases of obesity.[62] A limited number of cases are due primarily to genetics, medical reasons, or psychiatric illness.[63] In contrast, increasing rates of obesity at a societal level are felt to be due to an easily accessible and palatable diet,[64] increased reliance on cars, and mechanized manufacturing.[65][66]” So, yes, for a very few people there is a genetic cause. But a casual look at the increased levels of obesity in our society rules out a genetic basis for most. That is, unless some strange obesity mutation has appeared and proliferated in our population in the last 50 years or so. ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-big-hand-for-stoid-she-ate-a-book/574063/16 "2011-03-09T17:59:11Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Relative to obesity, there is a considerable body of evidence to support such a claim. Are we to take it that you propose that all such research is nonsense, meant to no other end but to deny personal responsibility? You know this for a fact, you can prove it? Uh, no. SOME (a very few) are obese due to genetic factors. Most are obese for the tried-and-true reason - they eat too much and exercise too little. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-big-hand-for-stoid-she-ate-a-book/574063/17 "2011-03-09T17:59:53Z")
> [@Giraffe](#): > > It just reeks of “ha ha, gotcha fatty!!!” Which is actually a lot douchier than someone being self-deluded. So, meh. I really don’t think he would’ve been such a douche if anyone other than **Stoid** had been the OP. My opinion is that, in this case, it’s well deserved. ---
**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-big-hand-for-stoid-she-ate-a-book/574063/18 "2011-03-09T18:01:17Z")
I’m pretty fat. I don’t exercise much, and I eat terribly. I’m perfectly aware that those are the causes of my size, and I accept that. Just sayin’. ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-big-hand-for-stoid-she-ate-a-book/574063/19 "2011-03-09T18:01:50Z")
> [@Malacandra](#): > > [What](http://www.churchill.com/churchill-dog/) Oh yes. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-big-hand-for-stoid-she-ate-a-book/574063/20 "2011-03-09T18:01:57Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > She’s fat, you’re stupid. She could lose weight. I thought the thread linked to in the OP established that that’s just what she couldn’t do. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-big-hand-for-stoid-she-ate-a-book/574063.md?page=2)