# A Blackhawk woke me this morning. Obama's in Ireland

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [May 23, 2011, 9:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-blackhawk-woke-me-this-morning-obamas-in-ireland/582872 "2011-05-23T09:38:36Z")\
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**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2011, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-blackhawk-woke-me-this-morning-obamas-in-ireland/582872/41 "2011-05-24T12:25:58Z")

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Re: The Kenny speech

**‘No question of plagiarism’ in Kenny’s speech**

> **[Speech was a 'tribute' to Obama - Kenny](https://www.rte.ie/news/2011/0524/301456-kennye/)**
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> The Taoiseach has defended his use of part of Barack Obama's election speech saying the duplication was deliberate and a tribute.

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2011, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-blackhawk-woke-me-this-morning-obamas-in-ireland/582872/42 "2011-05-24T13:01:53Z")

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Here’s an [audio comparison of the speeches](http://www.joe.ie/news-politics/current-affairs/audio-flattery-or-plagiarism-enda-kenny-and-barack-obama-speech-similarities-0012470-1).

An homage perhaps. :dubious:

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**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2011, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-blackhawk-woke-me-this-morning-obamas-in-ireland/582872/43 "2011-05-24T14:11:27Z")

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> [@Beadalin](#):
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> [Here’s the video.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nYTEqejXFE&feature=player_embedded)
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> “The President pays his bartender.”

I hope he also tipped well or otherwise someone will start a pit thread about him here.

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**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2011, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-blackhawk-woke-me-this-morning-obamas-in-ireland/582872/44 "2011-05-24T15:48:42Z")

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> [@joebuck20](#):
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> Here’s the story:
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> [In Ireland, A Homecoming (Of Sorts) For Obama : NPR](http://www.npr.org/2011/05/23/136558537/in-ireland-a-homecoming-of-sorts-for-obama)
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> Aha, so he’s really a secret Irishman, then.

In America we hold to the “one drop” rule of Irish heritage.

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**Author:** ![Hrududu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Hrududu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hrududu)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2011, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-blackhawk-woke-me-this-morning-obamas-in-ireland/582872/45 "2011-05-24T16:01:55Z")

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> [@joebuck20](#):
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> I hope he also tipped well or otherwise someone will start a pit thread about him here.

You don’t really tip the bartender in Ireland, so he’ll get away with it.

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**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2011, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-blackhawk-woke-me-this-morning-obamas-in-ireland/582872/46 "2011-05-25T01:30:26Z")

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> [@Lemur866](#):
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> In America we hold to the “one drop” rule of Irish heritage.

I thought it was the “capable of drinking beer on March 17th - you are Irish” rule.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2011, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-blackhawk-woke-me-this-morning-obamas-in-ireland/582872/47 "2011-05-25T02:27:51Z")

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> [@An\_Gadai](#):
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> He was given a [hurley](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurley_%28stick%29)as a present by our Taoiseach, that’s the “shillelagh”. The twins are [Jedward](http://www.planetjedward.net/)who sang at his welcoming concert in Dublin, for some reason.

Yeah, this is what a real [_shillelagh_](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shillelagh_%28club%29) looks like. (We have my great-great grandfather’s hanging on our wall)

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2011, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-blackhawk-woke-me-this-morning-obamas-in-ireland/582872/48 "2011-05-25T13:54:11Z")

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> [@yojimbo](#):
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> Re: The Kenny speech
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> **‘No question of plagiarism’ in Kenny’s speech**
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> [Speech was a 'tribute' to Obama - Kenny](http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/0524/kennye.html)

What surprised me was this sentence, “Whether you’re listening or watching in New York or New Haven or in San Diego or St Louis.” I’m just amazed that when he was thinking of American cities, New Haven came to mind.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2011, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-blackhawk-woke-me-this-morning-obamas-in-ireland/582872/49 "2011-05-25T14:15:40Z")

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> [@jjimm](#):
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> [It’s been done](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Xkw8ip43Vk).

So has your post. 😛

> [@dangermom](#):
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> [I don’t know how _secret_ it is…](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HplZ_taHXLM&feature=related)

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**Post date:** [May 25, 2011, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-blackhawk-woke-me-this-morning-obamas-in-ireland/582872/50 "2011-05-25T15:10:15Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> What surprised me was this sentence, “Whether you’re listening or watching in New York or New Haven or in San Diego or St Louis.” I’m just amazed that when he was thinking of American cities, New Haven came to mind.

I think he was trying for a bit of alliteration. Not the most elegant example of the breed, but I’ll give him a point and a half for the effort.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2011, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-blackhawk-woke-me-this-morning-obamas-in-ireland/582872/51 "2011-05-25T15:20:26Z")

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> [@joebuck20](#):
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> Aha, so he’s really a secret Irishman, then.

So he’s a … [Black Irish](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Irish). 😃

But I see the Birthers were not too far off after all. They were just focusing on the wrong country.

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2011, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-blackhawk-woke-me-this-morning-obamas-in-ireland/582872/52 "2011-05-28T12:10:50Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> So has your post. 😛

no u

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