# A blow against Fred Phelps **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [September 15, 2001, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-blow-against-fred-phelps/81892 "2001-09-15T22:29:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Catfood\_Purrito](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Catfood\_Purrito](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catfood_Purrito)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2001, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-blow-against-fred-phelps/81892/1 "2001-09-15T22:29:59Z")
In [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=87421) **Libertarian** came up with what I thought was a very good idea for striking a blow against Fred Phelps, small it may be. I’ve volunteered to oversee the project, which is: To let Mr. Phelps know that for every new bit of vile, hateful offal he adds to his website, [http://www.godhatesfags.com](http://www.godhatesfags.com), we will make a donation to an AIDS charity, perhaps Elton John’s, which is at [http://www.ejaf.org/donations.html](http://www.ejaf.org/donations.html). What we need is someone to volunteer to be treasurer, and of course, lots and lots of people to donate some cash. I’ll also be looking at my own budget to see how much I can allot to this venture. I have to leave for the evening shortly, but when I get back, I’ll see about setting up a website to let others know what we’re doing, and to show our progress and such. I welcome any and all suggestions and ideas. So, post your ideas and/or volunteer your time and money here, or email me! ---
**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2001, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-blow-against-fred-phelps/81892/2 "2001-09-15T23:13:31Z")
I’ve done html coding before and though I’m no prize I can help out with it. Money I can also help out with. And whatever letter we send to good ol’ freddy. I’m a copyeditor and an English major . . . this sort of thing is my forté. And of course you should disregard any mistakes in this post:D ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2001, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-blow-against-fred-phelps/81892/3 "2001-09-16T00:29:29Z")
I live in Topeka, Kansas, which Fred calls home(much to our dismay!) If I can help some way with local coordination let me know. ---
**Author:** ![LifeOnWry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/96bed5/32.png) [@LifeOnWry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LifeOnWry)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2001, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-blow-against-fred-phelps/81892/4 "2001-09-16T00:43:42Z")
FWIW, a local group out here in the Chicago 'burbs did something very similar with the KKK. They stood across the street from the rally and timed the marchers, letting it be known that each one of them would be donating one dollar per minute to the United Negro College Fund (IIRC, it may have been any number of other worthwhile charity organizations.) I do believe it was the city’s shortest klan rally. ---
**Author:** ![Philosophocles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b38774/32.png) [@Philosophocles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Philosophocles)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2001, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-blow-against-fred-phelps/81892/5 "2001-09-16T02:02:48Z")
How about if we send him to Afghanistan? I’m sure he would love the Taliban’s policy on homosexuality. ---
**Author:** ![Atreyu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@Atreyu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atreyu)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2001, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-blow-against-fred-phelps/81892/6 "2001-09-16T03:42:20Z")
I suspect Phelps is enough of a prude that he would object to his name being used in the same sentence as the word “blow”. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![MsRobyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MsRobyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsRobyn)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2001, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-blow-against-fred-phelps/81892/7 "2001-09-16T05:54:04Z")
I hate to be a spoilsport, but I’d clear any use of the name Straight Dope with the Chicago Reader first. Phelps is fairly well-funded and may not have a problem with suing. Robin ---
**Author:** ![Daowajan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3bc359/32.png) [@Daowajan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daowajan)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2001, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-blow-against-fred-phelps/81892/8 "2001-09-16T06:22:49Z")
I think that’s a wonderful idea. Maybe you could set up a portion of it like [thehungersite.com](http://thehungersite.com) used to have that thing where you’d click and the corporations that sponsored it would donate money. “If the name Fred Phelps makes your guts boil, click here.” Ask around to some companies after you have the site set up. I bet you’d get plenty of support in many ways. ---
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2001, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-blow-against-fred-phelps/81892/9 "2001-09-16T06:33:27Z")
Might I also suggest the American Civil Liberties Union, Americans United for the Seperation of Church and State, and the National Organization of Women. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2001, 8:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-blow-against-fred-phelps/81892/10 "2001-09-16T08:09:45Z")
Yep, I’m on board. I hope this hits thread spotting (if for no other reason than to replace the racist thread about the unfortunate Koreans). Mishell, for what it’s worth, I think Philosophocles offered a tweak that is an administrative improvement. > [@](#): > > How about if people started to donate a penny/nickel/dime to gay rights organizations for every 10 or 100 or 1000 hits at [GodHatesFags.com](http://GodHatesFags.com)? Send a petition around getting a bunch of people to pledge to this cause and send a copy to Phelps to let him know that every time someone accesses his website, gay rights organizations will be rewarded with donations. Reading the hit counter (subtracting your own hit for the read) will be objective and formulaic. ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2001, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-blow-against-fred-phelps/81892/11 "2001-09-16T12:02:57Z")
There are any number of worthy AIDS groups that donations could go to but, since Fred lives in Topeka, Kansas, might I be so bold as to suggest the Topeka AIDS Project? The address is 708 SW 6th Ave, Topeka, Kansas, 66603. Notice the zip code? That’s one of the reasons Fred says Topeka(along with everyone else) is doomed. Our ip codes begin with 666. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2001, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-blow-against-fred-phelps/81892/12 "2001-09-16T12:13:19Z")
Unbelievable. To think that a man is so infatuated with himself, he believes that the trifling place he occupies is the object of John’s great vision. What a moron. It is to laugh. Ha. ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2001, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-blow-against-fred-phelps/81892/13 "2001-09-16T13:00:26Z")
As you can see from my earlier post of 7:02AM I have been on the boards very recently. I got off the computer then went outside to pick up my Sunday paper(the Topeka Capital-Journal) The lead editorial was the following, and I ask you all PLEASE to read it. [http://cjonline.com/stories/091601/opi\_nohate.shtml](http://cjonline.com/stories/091601/opi_nohate.shtml) As I have mentioned in other threads I’ve long been actively opposed to Fred but lately nobody has done much because we ARE all so tired. I think this guy Jared has me inspired again. I truly don’t want to hate Fred, a real Christian doesn’t hate anyone, and recently I actually made a resolution to try and pray for him. But if and when someone organizes another counter event I will dust off the old signs of our own and go. I saw the news coverage of the rally mentioned in the above editorial but the station was very clever, and didn’t mentione Fred at all. Now that may seem to be tailoring the news, but I’ll bet it stuck in Fred’s craw not to get noticed that night. ---
**Author:** ![Arden\_Ranger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b487fb/32.png) [@Arden\_Ranger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arden_Ranger)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2001, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-blow-against-fred-phelps/81892/14 "2001-09-16T16:34:49Z")
Ha! Jared is on my hero list! Sign me up for whatever is needed. I have had a deep disgust for Phelps for as long as I can remember. ---
**Author:** ![manhattan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manhattan/32/7_2.png) [@manhattan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manhattan)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2001, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-blow-against-fred-phelps/81892/15 "2001-09-16T17:03:24Z")
I’m in for $1,000 of seed money once someone has everthing all set up. ---
**Author:** ![Kat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b19c9b/32.png) [@Kat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kat)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2001, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-blow-against-fred-phelps/81892/16 "2001-09-16T18:13:06Z")
I can put up some money, I’m sure. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2001, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-blow-against-fred-phelps/81892/17 "2001-09-16T18:30:10Z")
I’m seeing a whole list of heros today. Thank you all for giving a damn and actually _doing_ something about it. As for Phelps and his demons, I think this is appropriate: > [@](#): > > Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you hypocrites; as it is written: These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. > > — Jesus (Mark 7:6) ---
**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2001, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-blow-against-fred-phelps/81892/18 "2001-09-16T19:05:48Z")
I’m liking this idea…🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Daowajan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3bc359/32.png) [@Daowajan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daowajan)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2001, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-blow-against-fred-phelps/81892/19 "2001-09-16T19:14:31Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by MsRobyn \* > **I hate to be a spoilsport, but I’d clear any use of the name Straight Dope with the Chicago Reader first.** Why not get your own site then? ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2001, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-blow-against-fred-phelps/81892/20 "2001-09-16T19:42:58Z")
I don’t know if this could be thought of as premeditated murder ;), but how about for every time Phelps announces that he’s raised ‘X’ amount of money, we agree to donate one of those “My Two Daddy’s” type books to a school library? Surely, that’ll cause Phelps to have a stroke! (Hence, the premediated murder ;). ) Anyways, I’ll kick in some dough once you’ve got the thing up and running. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-blow-against-fred-phelps/81892.md?page=2)