# A blow against Fred Phelps **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [September 15, 2001, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-blow-against-fred-phelps/81892 "2001-09-15T22:29:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2001, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-blow-against-fred-phelps/81892/41 "2001-09-18T17:38:36Z")
Well, I made an appeal to Exprix in a Pit thread. We’ll see. I truly believe that he has just the spunk and drive to see a project like this through. Whether he has the time, maybe we’ll know shortly. ---
**Author:** ![Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc29f/32.png) [@Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2001, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-blow-against-fred-phelps/81892/42 "2001-09-18T19:18:00Z")
Umm…there’s not much I can offer up, being a poor wannabe college student, and all… But I have a friend who hates Phelps just as much as all of us–and could probably provide all the webspace that’s needed. (He has a domain registered on a computer out of his hosue.) If it comes down to that–somebody drop me an email and I can put you in touch with him. -Ashley ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2001, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-blow-against-fred-phelps/81892/43 "2001-09-18T19:43:23Z")
I have a PayPal account - perhaps an easy way to get donations? What would be entailed in such a project? [ul][li]A website[/li][li]Advertising/PR[/li][li]A way to input funds[/li][li]A way to track his hit counter[/li][li]A way to disperse funds[/ul][/li] What am I forgetting? Esprix ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2001, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-blow-against-fred-phelps/81892/44 "2001-09-18T21:20:39Z")
Wonderful! A melancholy temperament! Esprix, you are exactly what we need! **A website** Yes. There, we can do our reporting. I’m a professional web developer, and I can contribute style sheets, templates, and so forth. Plus, I think we can figure out a way that we could host the database itself on our W2000 server. That way, we could use Access or SQLServer with ASP. Reporting and accounting would then be pretty simple. I can design and maintain the database and the pages that access it. Someone above said they have about 90 meg of space. If we can afford it, it would be nice to have our own domain hosted by someone like Innerhost. In any event, there isn’t any reason why we can’t daisy-chain multiple servers if necessary calling and posting data wherever people will agree to host us. **Advertising/PR** Can someone out there help on this? A big part of this might be securing free hosting with our own domain name. Of course, if I’m to be of any use, the server will have to be Windows 2000 (or NT) with Microsoft IIS. **A way to input funds** I can write that so long as it’s VBScript in ASP. I just need the data elements required by PayPal. We could also record pledges and generate automatic follow-ups on them. **A way to track his hit counter** That’s easy. Just assign someone to check it each morning. Alternatively, if it’s just text data, I can write a program that will automatically read it every, oh say, half-hour or so, and calculate the funds needed. **A way to disperse funds** I would assign that to your treasurer. We can open a checking account for the purpose. I wouldn’t commit it to complete electronic transfer yet since many causes might not be capable of handling it. * * * I guess the only thing left out that I can think of is how to decide _who_ gets the funds and in what proportions. But if you’re the chief, then you decide how that will be worked out. You have a lot of people here willing and able to help. Some with talent. Some with money. Some with time. And some with a little of all of those. It’s really a big job, but I think that together, under your leadership, we can do it! ---
**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2001, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-blow-against-fred-phelps/81892/45 "2001-09-18T21:33:46Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Libertarian \* > Someone above said they have about 90 meg of space. If we can afford it, it would be nice to have our own domain hosted by someone like Innerhost. In any event, there isn’t any reason why we can’t daisy-chain multiple servers if necessary calling and posting data wherever people will agree to host us. I have a 50 meg site at geocities and I am currently using 1.5 megs of that. I estimate that in a year or so I may be using as much as 5 megs. That leaves 40+ for your disposal. I can write the pages if you give me the basics, I can find text, find pictures, and I can write semi-cogently. Give me something to do:D ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2001, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-blow-against-fred-phelps/81892/46 "2001-09-18T21:37:06Z")
[looks left] [looks right] [scratches head] When, exactly, did I get drafted? 😉 Esprix [sub]I hate being the responsible one![/sub] ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2001, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-blow-against-fred-phelps/81892/47 "2001-09-18T21:43:48Z")
Random thoughts/to do: [ul][li]Web content[/li][li]Filing non-profit status[/li][li]Board?[/li][li]Who decides where the money goes?[/ul][/li] Esprix ---
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2001, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-blow-against-fred-phelps/81892/48 "2001-09-18T23:01:55Z")
> [@](#): > > _From [http://www.godhatesamerica.com/](http://www.godhatesamerica.com/)_ > **A Message To The Nation In The Wake Of The World Trade Center/Pentagon Tragedy - The Rod Of God Hath Smitten Fag America!** Heh. Fred said “Rod”. 😉 What and idjit. Will you guys take MasterCard? ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2001, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-blow-against-fred-phelps/81892/49 "2001-09-18T23:43:26Z")
Is it me, or does he just use the word “fag” way too much? Kinda creepy… Esprix ---
**Author:** ![Francesca](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/9fc348/32.png) [@Francesca](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Francesca)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2001, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-blow-against-fred-phelps/81892/50 "2001-09-18T23:50:57Z")
I’ll help if I can - I got plenty of time. A quick thought - once Phelps gets wind of this, could he just remove his hit counter? Would that thwart everything? ---
**Author:** ![Arden\_Ranger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b487fb/32.png) [@Arden\_Ranger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arden_Ranger)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2001, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-blow-against-fred-phelps/81892/51 "2001-09-19T00:00:15Z")
Well, he could, but I think he’s probably to vain needs to know how many hits he gets. ---
**Author:** ![bdgr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a87d85/32.png) [@bdgr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bdgr)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2001, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-blow-against-fred-phelps/81892/52 "2001-09-19T00:29:35Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Esprix \* > \*\*Is it me, or does he just use the word “fag” way too much? > > Kinda creepy… > > Esprix\*\* Nah…Its just you. He uses the word “fag” exactly the right amount. Just enough to be cute and and endearing…and to come across as a total nutjob I checked and [godhatesfred.com](http://godhatesfred.com) and [godhatesphelps.com](http://godhatesphelps.com) are both taken. Maybe .org? The following are available [godhatesnone.com](http://godhatesnone.com) [godhatesnoone.com](http://godhatesnoone.com) [godoesnthate.com](http://godoesnthate.com) I think any of these would be good ---
**Author:** ![tisiphone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@tisiphone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tisiphone)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2001, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-blow-against-fred-phelps/81892/53 "2001-09-19T00:42:14Z")
I think [godoesnthate.com](http://godoesnthate.com) is my favorite choice… ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2001, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-blow-against-fred-phelps/81892/54 "2001-09-19T00:45:29Z")
I know how much this means to everybody, but like I said on an earlier post in this thread, why not just have folks make their own donations individually, send Fred the notice they did it, and then post about it. We could post addresses of groups we thought worthy of donations, and if anyone gets a flaming from Fred after they tell him about their donation, it would make for well reading here. This way there would be less fuss and effort. Tell you what, I will start it off by making a donation to the Topeka Aids Project. I will notify Fred by snail mail( I don’t want him to get my email address if I can help it) I’m sure to get SOME sort of reaction, because they used to see me at two different churches and called me the “Church Whore” The moniker meant, so they hollered at me, that I didn’t know where I wanted to do my spiritual fornicating. Hmmm, didn’t know as that was spiritual. I already wrote a leter to the editor of our paper, but with so much mail it may not get published. Hold my hand, after being out of the protest circuit for so long, bearding Freddie like this makes me nervous. Should I tell him where I got the idea? ---
**Author:** ![Helen\_s\_Eidolon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Helen\_s\_Eidolon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helen_s_Eidolon)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2001, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-blow-against-fred-phelps/81892/55 "2001-09-19T02:20:17Z")
I’m here and willing to help. I’m not gonna volunteer for a major position as I’m just not responsible enough, but I can do some HTML and JavaScript, I have quite a bit of time and a credit card. 🙂 I think PR/Advertising shouldn’t be too hard, just time consuming. This seems to me exactly the kind of “human interest” story a lot of newspapers would love to run. This is such a great idea. How are we going to only donate according to the amount of hits? I mean, if someone comes in and wants to donate 100$, are we gonna stop them 'cause he hasn’t gotten enough hits for it? ---
**Author:** ![bdgr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a87d85/32.png) [@bdgr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bdgr)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2001, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-blow-against-fred-phelps/81892/56 "2001-09-19T04:56:07Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Baker \* > **I know how much this means to everybody, but like I said on an earlier post in this thread, why not just have folks make their own donations individually, send Fred the notice they did it, and then post about it.** Personally, I like the idea of fred knowing that every hatefull action he does, contributing to the enemy cause directely. ---
**Author:** ![Arden\_Ranger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b487fb/32.png) [@Arden\_Ranger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arden_Ranger)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2001, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-blow-against-fred-phelps/81892/57 "2001-09-19T05:04:33Z")
Oh, he’d know. Usually when a donation is made to a charity in a third person’s name, they get a card in the mail that says “A donation has been made in your name to The National AIDS Foundation” or something like that. Fred would get mail from all these AIDS charities and Gay Rights groups. The mailman would get a good laugh. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![bdgr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a87d85/32.png) [@bdgr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bdgr)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2001, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-blow-against-fred-phelps/81892/58 "2001-09-19T05:30:58Z")
I was thinking of the idea of tying each donation to an action of his though. So that he knew that whenever he posted a new article, he was directly contributing to the other side, or whenever he reached a certain number of hits etc. A concrete cause and effect that even his pathetic disturbed little mind could understand… ---
**Author:** ![Arden\_Ranger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b487fb/32.png) [@Arden\_Ranger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arden_Ranger)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2001, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-blow-against-fred-phelps/81892/59 "2001-09-19T05:59:37Z")
Press releases sent to the Topeka newspaper? ---
**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2001, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-blow-against-fred-phelps/81892/60 "2001-09-19T11:27:20Z")
Other than the above mentioned domain names, I’ve found several others that have .com, .net., and .org available. FredFightsAids, for instance. I’ll donate the domain names (all three suffixes, if available) for two years. Can we get some legal advice on this as it moves forward? As a potential domain registrar, I don’t have a lot of time to spend in court, and we know he likes litigation as much as he hates America. 😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-blow-against-fred-phelps/81892.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-blow-against-fred-phelps/81892.md?page=4)