# A board of such delicate little flowers

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-board-of-such-delicate-little-flowers/559363>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 3, 2010, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-board-of-such-delicate-little-flowers/559363 "2010-11-03T18:57:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 17\
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**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-board-of-such-delicate-little-flowers/559363/41 "2010-11-04T12:30:03Z")

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> [@Crotalus](#):
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> Abuse their power? What power? They can suspend me or ban me from this message board, or lock a thread. BFD.

THAT’s the point - some folks have a LOT more invested in their online lives - and the rights they want/expect/demand - as part of that online life.

Seems like way too much to invest into such a tenuous presence, but there ya go.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-board-of-such-delicate-little-flowers/559363/42 "2010-11-04T12:38:32Z")

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Now I actually read that you included me in this bullshit. Look, I’ve been giving twicks a pass forever. But she is the one most reviled moderator everywhere I look where you can actually talk about that subject. But I’ve been trying to assume the best–even though she is the only mod who has had to have Ed come in and save her hide when she tried the cunt thing.

That she came in and laughed in my thread where I was trying to help people out with a feature I didn’t know we had, and the mods without warning took it as a sign to as yet another freedom to senselessly take away was just the last straw.

I can’t pit her for her crap because she always does it as a moderator. I’ll admit that I was a bit unreasonable. But I’d been giving her pass after pass.

Plus, my withdrawal symptoms are horrible again, for all that y’all care. You alternate from horribly anxious to normal to horribly depressed in less than 24 hours, with no doctor or therapist being able to help you because you’re agoraphobic and stuck at home, and every drug they want to give you has been shown to make things worse, and you try to not have a little bit of a short fuse.

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**Author:** ![Hawkins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/278dde/32.png) [@Hawkins](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkins)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-board-of-such-delicate-little-flowers/559363/43 "2010-11-04T12:43:28Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> If you want to live your life not standing up for when people do things that are wrong, that’s your prerogative. But, as far as I’m concerned, that means you’re just as guilty as the people who do wrong.
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> The only way to make sure that those in authority do not abuse their power is to make sure someone is monitoring them, and that someone makes it inconvenient to do wrong.

Oh, yes. Especially on an anonymous message board, you self-absorbed sanctimonious twit.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-board-of-such-delicate-little-flowers/559363/44 "2010-11-04T12:44:41Z")

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> [@Crotalus](#):
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> These words and beliefs seem way out of proportion with what we’re talking about, and maybe that’s at least half the problem. In addition to being delicate little flowers, it seems that some people think that a minor slight on a message board is a crime against decency and humanity.
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> Abuse their power? What power? They can suspend me or ban me from this message board, or lock a thread. BFD.

As I pointed out before, this message board pretty much is my life right now. It had gotten better, but now that my withdrawal symptoms are bad enough that I can’t even watch movies, and I’m stuck at home all the time–THIS IS ALL I HAVE to keep me from going insane.

You think I might be a little overprotective of this place?

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**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-board-of-such-delicate-little-flowers/559363/45 "2010-11-04T12:46:43Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> As I pointed out before, this message board pretty much is my life right now. It had gotten better, but now that my withdrawal symptoms are bad enough that I can’t even watch movies, and I’m stuck at home all the time–THIS IS ALL I HAVE to keep me from going insane.
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> You think I might be a little overprotective of this place?

VERY different perspective from many on this board. Doesn’t make it wrong or better - just profoundly different.

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**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-board-of-such-delicate-little-flowers/559363/46 "2010-11-04T13:07:31Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> As I pointed out before, this message board pretty much is my life right now. It had gotten better, but now that my withdrawal symptoms are bad enough that I can’t even watch movies, and I’m stuck at home all the time–THIS IS ALL I HAVE to keep me from going insane.
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> You think I might be a little overprotective of this place?

**BigT** , I’m sorry about your troubles, but I think your efforts would be better spent trying to enjoy this board for what it actually is, rather than taking it so seriously. Try to shrug some of this stuff off.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-board-of-such-delicate-little-flowers/559363/47 "2010-11-04T13:22:25Z")

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> [@Hawkins](#):
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> Oh, yes. Especially on an anonymous message board, you self-absorbed sanctimonious twit.

Funny, because, unless it took you 15 minutes or so to make that response, you could clearly see I wasn’t even talking about myself.

Even if I didn’t spend an inordinate amount of time here, I would still appreciate those people who go to bat for all of us when the mods mess up. Do they overdo it a lot? Sure. But I’m not going to fault them for that on a board that encourages people to take the piss out of each other.

And, crud, in composing and recomposing this, I realize I overdid it horribly in that previous post. I doubt she’ll forgive me, but I’ll apologize to **twickster** for being so mean back there. I may not think she is anywhere near the best mod here, but she does not deserve to be beat up on in a thread just because someone else actually pitted me. What I said here was exactly what I was trying not to say.

Funny how that build up thing works again, isn’t it?

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**Author:** ![LonesomePolecat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a88e57/32.png) [@LonesomePolecat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LonesomePolecat)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-board-of-such-delicate-little-flowers/559363/48 "2010-11-04T13:35:46Z")

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Q: How many Dopers does it take to change a light bulb?

A. Fourteen. One to change the light bulb, a mod to issue a warning for using an incandescent light bulb instead of a CFL, and twelve to get upset and angry over the mod’s decision.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-board-of-such-delicate-little-flowers/559363/49 "2010-11-04T13:36:24Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Now I actually read that you included me in this bullshit. Look, I’ve been giving twicks a pass forever.

BigT, get the fuck over yourself. Your Tom Joad routine is tired, overplayed, and over the top. No one cares that you’ve “been giving twicks a pass”, and no one cares about this bullshit moral high ground you want to hold everyone to.

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> That she came in and laughed in my thread where I was trying to help people out with a feature I didn’t know we had, and the mods without warning took it as a sign to as yet another freedom to senselessly take away was just the last straw.

[This thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=583409)? Your reaction and interpretation of those events are hilarious. “The last straw”? Come on, we all know that’s not true - you don’t have the intestinal fortitude to hold anyone’s feet to the fire long enough to singe the hair off their ankles.

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> I can’t pit her for her crap because she always does it as a moderator. I’ll admit that I was a bit unreasonable. But I’d been giving her pass after pass.

:rolleyes: How magnanimous of you.

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> Plus, my withdrawal symptoms are horrible again, for all that y’all care. You alternate from horribly anxious to normal to horribly depressed in less than 24 hours, with no doctor or therapist being able to help you because you’re agoraphobic and stuck at home, and every drug they want to give you has been shown to make things worse, and you try to not have a little bit of a short fuse.

We are not your therapy session or clinical support group. This sort of passive aggressive bullshit is unfair to yourself and the board.

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**Author:** ![Baal\_Houtham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baal_houtham/32/13604_2.png) [@Baal\_Houtham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baal_Houtham)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-board-of-such-delicate-little-flowers/559363/50 "2010-11-04T13:39:31Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> Plus, my withdrawal symptoms are horrible again, for all that y’all care. You alternate from horribly anxious to normal to horribly depressed in less than 24 hours, with no doctor or therapist being able to help you because you’re agoraphobic and stuck at home, and every drug they want to give you has been shown to make things worse, and you try to not have a little bit of a short fuse.

And the mods have to take diatribes from unbalanced people seriously, and respond rationally. Sometimes for hours on end.

Like **Bosstone** said upstream"  
\*Goddammit, don’t bring threads from that cesspool into the Pit! We have standards here! \*

I thank the mods for making this place possible. Obviously there’s some emotional reward for them in volunteering their time, but that doesn’t mean it’s fun.

The chronic complainers appear to think there’s an endless supply to SDMB members lined up to prove they could moderate more perfectly than the current ones.

Maybe there is, but my guess is that the supply of sane, bright, patient, willing people with extra time on their hands is a limited resource.

I’m not a volunteering type, but occasionally I envision being a moderator. That fantasy lasts only until I remember the ATMB ButtHurt Brigade, and then I sigh, “The horror… the horror.”

(Yes, occasionally a mod does something stupid. The bastards!)

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**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-board-of-such-delicate-little-flowers/559363/51 "2010-11-04T13:39:35Z")

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> [@Ike\_Witt](#):
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> Interesting, how many former mods have posted in this thread?

Julie & Linc, but I haven’t seen Pete post in a long time.

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**Author:** ![LonesomePolecat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a88e57/32.png) [@LonesomePolecat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LonesomePolecat)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-board-of-such-delicate-little-flowers/559363/52 "2010-11-04T13:41:48Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> I’d have liberal jackboots with frickin’ laser beams!

Interesting concept. How many liberals do you have to skin to make the leather for liberal jackboots?

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-board-of-such-delicate-little-flowers/559363/53 "2010-11-04T16:24:31Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> The only way to make sure that those in authority do not abuse their power is to make sure someone is monitoring them, and that someone makes it inconvenient to do wrong.

Aah, but _quis custodiet ipsos custodes_, that’s what I want to know?

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-board-of-such-delicate-little-flowers/559363/54 "2010-11-04T17:17:24Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> Aah, but _quis custodiet ipsos custodes_, that’s what I want to know?

Dr. Manhattan?

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**Author:** ![PoorYorick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecccb3/32.png) [@PoorYorick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PoorYorick)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-board-of-such-delicate-little-flowers/559363/55 "2010-11-04T17:21:17Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> Aah, but _quis custodiet ipsos custodes_, that’s what I want to know?

It’s guards all the way down.

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**Author:** ![Corner\_Case](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/corner_case/32/234_2.png) [@Corner\_Case](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corner_Case)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-board-of-such-delicate-little-flowers/559363/56 "2010-11-04T18:05:26Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> As I pointed out before, this message board pretty much is my life right now. It had gotten better, but now that my withdrawal symptoms are bad enough that I can’t even watch movies, and I’m stuck at home all the time–THIS IS ALL I HAVE to keep me from going insane.
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> You think I might be a little overprotective of this place?

You’re trying to control the very thing that gives you the only freedom you think you have.

If you love the board, set the board free. If the board stays here, it was, and always will be yours. If it never returns, it was never yours to begin with.

[sub]😉 _where’s that pukey smilie?_[/sub]

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-board-of-such-delicate-little-flowers/559363/57 "2010-11-04T18:18:50Z")

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I have to admit to some disappointment that I’ll never be able to compete in the “Most Pitted Mod” contests of yore. However, rules is rules, and the current rules state that discussion of moderation actions takes place in ATMB. I appreciate that the OP is not interested in discussing moderation actions, but it seems to me that, in order for the posters named in the OP to properly defend themselves, they would necessarily have to refer to moderator actions that they think justify their complaints. As such, I’m closing this thread, as I don’t think it is possible for it remain within the rules for this forum.

Anyone who disagrees with me knows where to stick their complaints.

[sub]That would be in ATMB, of course. Where did you think I meant?[/sub]

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