# A bold prediction - Trump won't be president on Nov. 3, 2020

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-bold-prediction-trump-wont-be-president-on-nov-3-2020/832813>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [April 20, 2019, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-bold-prediction-trump-wont-be-president-on-nov-3-2020/832813 "2019-04-20T15:43:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2019, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-bold-prediction-trump-wont-be-president-on-nov-3-2020/832813/21 "2019-04-20T22:23:58Z")

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> [@KarlGauss](#):
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> It would be easy for him to feign ‘serious health issues’ and use that as an excuse. He does have some experience with that type of thing, after all.

When bone spurs flare up late in life, it can be life threatening…

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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2019, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-bold-prediction-trump-wont-be-president-on-nov-3-2020/832813/22 "2019-04-20T23:08:44Z")

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> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#):
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> My prediction is that if Trump is obviously, hugely losing in the polls before the election he will resign. Bang. Just step down. Make Pence president and the official loser. Trump won’t care that this will dynamite the Republican party. He’s never been a Republican. He’s always a party of one. As long as he doesn’t lose, he wins.
> 
> Trump won’t be president on Nov. 3, 2020. Count on it.

> [@Impeachment proceedings...will they happen?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeachment-proceedings-will-they-happen/832795/16):
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> Dems should have one and only one thought in their heads for the next 18 months: the defeat of Trump in the 2020 election. Stop playing games.

…the cognitive dissonance on display here is literally blowing my brain.

“Don’t impeach. Stop playing games. Only keep one thing in their heads for the next 18 months. Defeat Trump.”

“Because Trump is just going to step down. Count on it.”

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**Author:** ![Icarus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icarus/32/72_2.png) [@Icarus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icarus)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2019, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-bold-prediction-trump-wont-be-president-on-nov-3-2020/832813/23 "2019-04-21T00:22:44Z")

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> [@DigitalC](#):
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> Trump very much enjoyed running for president, even when nobody thought he had a shot. Once campaign season gets going and he is basking in the adulation of his troglodyte base he is going to be all in.

Yeah, the whole actual Presidenting isn’t what drives him. Campaigning? That is like the blood of virgins to him. He’l get up in front of crowds and ramble and make up shit and they’ll all adore him. It is what he lives for.

So, no. He’s not resigning. And he’s not THAT old. He’s probably not really that unhealthy, in spite of his girth and diet. And he’s probably genetically predisposed to live well into his 90s.

Sigh.

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2019, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-bold-prediction-trump-wont-be-president-on-nov-3-2020/832813/24 "2019-04-21T00:50:03Z")

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> [@Banquet\_Bear](#):
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> …the cognitive dissonance on display here is literally blowing my brain.
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> “Don’t impeach. Stop playing games. Only keep one thing in their heads for the next 18 months. Defeat Trump.”
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> “Because Trump is just going to step down. Count on it.”

The utter lack of humor in your posts and in the reading of others is dismaying.

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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2019, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-bold-prediction-trump-wont-be-president-on-nov-3-2020/832813/25 "2019-04-21T01:06:15Z")

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> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#):
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> The utter lack of humor in your posts and in the reading of others is dismaying.

…your OP was a joke-post? You don’t want us to take it seriously?

Well okay then, if you insist. I suggest you email the mods and ask them to move this thread to a more appropriate forum.

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2019, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-bold-prediction-trump-wont-be-president-on-nov-3-2020/832813/26 "2019-04-21T01:08:39Z")

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Yeah, to avoid that big loss he’d have to step down way earlier than 11/3/2020. The convention concludes 8/27/20 and that puts him on the ballot. Even were he to resign he’d still be the party’s nominee unless something drastic changes. And by early October even if they want to change the ballots it’s doubtful they’d be able to. So Trump would still take the loss.

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2019, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-bold-prediction-trump-wont-be-president-on-nov-3-2020/832813/27 "2019-04-21T01:45:52Z")

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> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#):
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> Yeah, to avoid that big loss he’d have to step down way earlier than 11/3/2020. The convention concludes 8/27/20 and that puts him on the ballot. Even were he to resign he’d still be the party’s nominee unless something drastic changes. And by early October even if they want to change the ballots it’s doubtful they’d be able to. So Trump would still take the loss.

Not in his mind, he wouldn’t. That’s my point.

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**Author:** ![chappachula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d2c977/32.png) [@chappachula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chappachula)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2019, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-bold-prediction-trump-wont-be-president-on-nov-3-2020/832813/28 "2019-04-22T11:26:30Z")

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> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#):
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> My prediction is that **if Trump is obviously, hugely losing in the polls** before the election he will resign. Bang. Just step down. Make Pence president and the official loser.

He won’t be obviously and hugely losing in the polls. He may be 10% behind in one or two polls, but polling is no longer an accurate science like it was 25 years ago. It will be a close election.  
( Rachel Madow will be holding her breath all night long, till the results are final.)

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> Trump cannot let himself lose the 2020 election. He simply can’t. **It would destroy him.**

No it won’t destroy him— because he wont see it as a loss. He’ll simply declare again that the system is rigged, and that he is the real darling of the American people. The election was stolen from him.And he’ll declare how: because those lefties let 20 million illegal aliens vote.

Fox news will find 3 cases of something wrong (say, somebody with a Hispanic name voted using as ID a drivers license with an expired date), and that will be “proof” that the _whole_ system is rigged.  
Trump will spend his last 3 months from Nov till inauguration day doing nothing but running around the country holding rallies declaring that the system is rigged. The applause will boost his ego , and he will genuinely believe that he actually won, and the new guy in the oval office is the real loser.

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> Trump won’t be president on Nov. 3, 2020. Count on it.

Nope, I’m not counting on it.

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**Post date:** [April 22, 2019, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-bold-prediction-trump-wont-be-president-on-nov-3-2020/832813/29 "2019-04-22T12:09:48Z")

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I think the only way he resigns is if he craters with his base, setting up a landslide loss. I just don’t see that happening unless the economy suddenly folds. If the economy starts taking a dive, then he and the entire GOP is in serious trouble. But short of that, I think he will be competitive. My fear is that the race could be so close in the EV that he could claim election fraud and then incite his followers to engage in political violence. I don’t think it’s enough for Trump to lose, we need him to lose badly.

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**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2019, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-bold-prediction-trump-wont-be-president-on-nov-3-2020/832813/30 "2019-04-22T15:08:22Z")

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> [@Banquet\_Bear](#):
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> …the cognitive dissonance on display here is literally blowing my brain."

If your brain was literally blown, I don’t think you’d still be posting.

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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2019, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-bold-prediction-trump-wont-be-president-on-nov-3-2020/832813/31 "2019-04-22T15:16:13Z")

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> [@CairoCarol](#):
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> If your brain was literally blown, I don’t think you’d still be posting.

…relax. This is a joke thread remember? The utter lack of humor in your posts and in the reading of others is dismaying.

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**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2019, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-bold-prediction-trump-wont-be-president-on-nov-3-2020/832813/32 "2019-04-22T15:23:58Z")

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> [@Lamoral](#):
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> He will have to be dragged kicking and screaming, if he has to be removed at all.

And he _loves_ kicking and screaming.

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**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2019, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-bold-prediction-trump-wont-be-president-on-nov-3-2020/832813/33 "2019-04-22T19:20:13Z")

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> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#):
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> I’ve been saying for a while that I didn’t think Trump would finish out his term. No, I don’t expect him to be impeached, and I hope the Democrats won’t try.
> 
> A health problem might do it. Trump is a walking heart attack. Or a stroke during one of his tweet rages.
> 
> But a new possibility occurred to me. It’s so Trumpian it’s downright scary.
> 
> Trump cannot let himself lost the 2020 election. He simply can’t. It would destroy him. He’d much rather be impeached, since he could spin that as partisan hatred, the stuff he thrives on.
> 
> I know there’s been crazy talk about him refusing to leave office if he loses. That won’t happen. The reverse might.
> 
> My prediction is that if Trump is obviously, hugely losing in the polls before the election he will resign. Bang. Just step down. Make Pence president and the official loser. Trump won’t care that this will dynamite the Republican party. He’s never been a Republican. He’s always a party of one. As long as he doesn’t lose, he wins.
> 
> Trump won’t be president on Nov. 3, 2020. Count on it.

I just chuckle at the desperate efforts of people who hate the President to come up with ways that he’s not going to finish the term. It’s sad, really. Accept reality and face up to the fact that it’s even possible he could be a two-term president. 😉

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**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2019, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-bold-prediction-trump-wont-be-president-on-nov-3-2020/832813/34 "2019-04-22T19:40:19Z")

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> [@DSYoungEsq](#):
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> I just chuckle at the desperate efforts of people who hate the President to come up with ways that he’s not going to finish the term.

Chuckle all you like, but the only reason he might finish his term is because one half of the United States of America is rotten to the core.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2019, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-bold-prediction-trump-wont-be-president-on-nov-3-2020/832813/35 "2019-04-22T20:11:20Z")

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If he loses, he will start ‘The System Is Rigged’ network that will make FOX look fair and balanced.

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**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2019, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-bold-prediction-trump-wont-be-president-on-nov-3-2020/832813/36 "2019-04-22T22:24:42Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> If he loses, he will start ‘The System Is Rigged’ network that will make FOX look fair and balanced.

He will do more than start it. He will be on it interminably. Always outraged except for momentary reminders of the splendour that was his America.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2019, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-bold-prediction-trump-wont-be-president-on-nov-3-2020/832813/37 "2019-04-22T23:46:08Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> If he loses, he will start ‘The System Is Rigged’ network that will make FOX look fair and balanced.

He was intending to do that if he “lost.”

This isn’t North Korea, so watching it would be a choice. Say, what number is the public access station, anyway?

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2019, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-bold-prediction-trump-wont-be-president-on-nov-3-2020/832813/38 "2019-04-22T23:51:59Z")

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> [@KarlGauss](#):
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> He will do more than start it. He will be on it interminably. Always outraged except for momentary reminders of the splendour that was his America.

Of course. He’s an attention whore.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2019, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-bold-prediction-trump-wont-be-president-on-nov-3-2020/832813/39 "2019-04-22T23:56:20Z")

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> He was intending to do that if he “lost.”

Yep, and it’s clear he didn’t have a backup plan for winning.

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**Post date:** [April 23, 2019, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-bold-prediction-trump-wont-be-president-on-nov-3-2020/832813/40 "2019-04-23T01:04:47Z")

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> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#):
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> I’ve been saying for a while that I didn’t think Trump would finish out his term. No, I don’t expect him to be impeached, and I hope the Democrats won’t try.
> 
> A health problem might do it. Trump is a walking heart attack. Or a stroke during one of his tweet rages.
> 
> But a new possibility occurred to me. It’s so Trumpian it’s downright scary.
> 
> Trump cannot let himself lost the 2020 election. He simply can’t. It would destroy him. He’d much rather be impeached, since he could spin that as partisan hatred, the stuff he thrives on.
> 
> I know there’s been crazy talk about him refusing to leave office if he loses. That won’t happen. The reverse might.
> 
> My prediction is that if Trump is obviously, hugely losing in the polls before the election he will resign. Bang. Just step down. Make Pence president and the official loser. Trump won’t care that this will dynamite the Republican party. He’s never been a Republican. He’s always a party of one. As long as he doesn’t lose, he wins.
> 
> Trump won’t be president on Nov. 3, 2020. Count on it.

It’s an interesting theory, and it make logical sense for him to bolt before the music stops, saying he’s leaving for health reasons…hell, you may even be right, he might leave with a toe tag from a heart attack, considering his age and the shit he does and eats. It will hinge on whether HE thinks he will win. I honestly think that, in the last election, he thought he would lose, and he was preparing his outrage when, amazingly, he won…and he had zero idea what to do. He was the most unprepared incoming President I can recall…it was laughable, with him supposedly being this great CEO that he didn’t even have a team prepared for the transition (hell, here we are talking about the re-election and he STILL hasn’t even filled all the positions he should have in the first couple of months).

But will he see it as a given that he’s going down in defeat at this point? After all, he won last time when I think that HE thought he wouldn’t. That might make him hang on, even if it looks bad. I hope you are right…I honestly hope there isn’t a Trump in office for the re-election.

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