# A boozed up Dante Stallworth kills someone and gets 30 days in jail.

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**Created:** [June 16, 2009, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-boozed-up-dante-stallworth-kills-someone-and-gets-30-days-in-jail/499965 "2009-06-16T17:45:44Z")\
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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-boozed-up-dante-stallworth-kills-someone-and-gets-30-days-in-jail/499965/21 "2009-06-17T04:21:38Z")

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> [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](#):
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> The Browns have a long list of players ahead of Stallworth for that particular crime…

LOL.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-boozed-up-dante-stallworth-kills-someone-and-gets-30-days-in-jail/499965/22 "2009-06-17T04:28:35Z")

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> [@Simplicio](#):
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> But Stallworth’s sentence isn’t half of the '96 average, or even a factor of five or ten shorter, it’s _one one hundreth_ of the '96 average.

Well, it would be silly to suggest that the sort of legal representative he can afford didn’t have anything to do with it. It also appears that the victim’s family requested leniency, since the accident wasn’t really Stallworth’s fault and “they just wanted to get it over with” - read “got a bigger settlement that way”.

Remember, Vince Neil was half again as drunk (0.17 BAC), was speeding, and his DUI manslaughter accident was entirely his fault (he lost control of his vehicle). He only got 30 days in jail, and _five_ years’ probation. IIRC, that wasn’t even a plea bargain.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-boozed-up-dante-stallworth-kills-someone-and-gets-30-days-in-jail/499965/23 "2009-06-17T05:04:39Z")

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I read (don’t know if it’s true or not) that the family urged the prosecutors to charge for a lesser crime so the trial could be over quickly and they could quickly get to the civil trial for their big payday.

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**Author:** ![ExTank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@ExTank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExTank)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-boozed-up-dante-stallworth-kills-someone-and-gets-30-days-in-jail/499965/24 "2009-06-17T05:24:05Z")

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> [@Phatlewt](#):
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> 30 days… and two years of house arrest, and eight years of probation and 1,000 hours of community service…
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> What do you think the punishment should be?

The exact same as if I, a lower-middle-class white guy, withe _zero_ “fame-to-my-name” has committted the exact same crime.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-boozed-up-dante-stallworth-kills-someone-and-gets-30-days-in-jail/499965/25 "2009-06-17T05:37:34Z")

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It’s not fame, it’s money. Donte Stallworth is not a sports star, he’s a half-assed player who’s bounced from team to team in his career. It’s not like the NFL is pressuring anyone so some mediocre to decent player gets back on the field. He paid the family off in exchange for them influencing the sentence to be lower.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-boozed-up-dante-stallworth-kills-someone-and-gets-30-days-in-jail/499965/26 "2009-06-17T12:18:59Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> I read (don’t know if it’s true or not) that the family urged the prosecutors to charge for a lesser crime so the trial could be over quickly and they could quickly get to the civil trial for their big payday.

The radio report I heard was different. I heard that part of the agreement on the plea included a settlement for the family (no figures were given and I doubt there will be). A plea deal like this is always easier to get if the family is paid off too, and I heard they were in this case.

ETA: I see you mentioned that in your next post.

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**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-boozed-up-dante-stallworth-kills-someone-and-gets-30-days-in-jail/499965/27 "2009-06-17T12:23:51Z")

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Money, money, money  
Must be funny  
In the rich man’s world  
Money, money, money  
Always sunny  
In the rich man’s world  
Aha-ahaaa  
All the things I could do  
If I had a little money  
Its a rich man’s world  
ABBA- “Money, Money, Money”

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-boozed-up-dante-stallworth-kills-someone-and-gets-30-days-in-jail/499965/28 "2009-06-17T13:51:47Z")

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> [@ExTank](#):
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> The exact same as if I, a lower-middle-class white guy, withe _zero_ “fame-to-my-name” has committted the exact same crime.

Yeah, seriously. Damn judges are always sentencing white men to harsher penalties. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Agent\_Foxtrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc29f/32.png) [@Agent\_Foxtrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Agent_Foxtrot)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-boozed-up-dante-stallworth-kills-someone-and-gets-30-days-in-jail/499965/29 "2009-06-17T13:53:43Z")

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Disgusting. Both for the mockery of law and the salient greed of the family. Stallworth could at least try to look remorseful and the family could at least try to look anguished.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-boozed-up-dante-stallworth-kills-someone-and-gets-30-days-in-jail/499965/30 "2009-06-17T13:59:29Z")

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> [@Agent\_Foxtrot](#):
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> Disgusting. Both for the mockery of law and the salient greed of the family. Stallworth could at least try to look remorseful and the family could at least try to look anguished.

Stallworth immediately jumped out of the car and called 911, cooperated fully with investigators, and _has_ shown remorse. He also has no prior record.

I agree that the family’s actions don’t speak well of them, but for all you know the guy might have been beating his wife and molesting his daughter.

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**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-boozed-up-dante-stallworth-kills-someone-and-gets-30-days-in-jail/499965/31 "2009-06-17T14:06:37Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Yeah, seriously. Damn judges are always sentencing white men to harsher penalties. :rolleyes:

They did (slightly) for DUI-manslaughter in FL in 1996, anyways. See my earlier link.

Don’t think that was **ExTank** ’s point though.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-boozed-up-dante-stallworth-kills-someone-and-gets-30-days-in-jail/499965/32 "2009-06-17T14:09:32Z")

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> [@Simplicio](#):
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> Don’t think that was **ExTank** ’s point though.

On re-reading it, I think I see what his point was, which is that everybody should be getting the same sentence, not that Stallworth got off easy because he’s black.

Sorry, **ET**.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-boozed-up-dante-stallworth-kills-someone-and-gets-30-days-in-jail/499965/33 "2009-06-17T15:18:08Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Yeah, seriously. Damn judges are always sentencing white men to harsher penalties. :rolleyes:

A non white with enough money can buy rich white mans justice. OJ wasted so much money getting off . It just was not fair.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-boozed-up-dante-stallworth-kills-someone-and-gets-30-days-in-jail/499965/34 "2009-06-17T22:40:38Z")

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Eh, who cares? The vic is still dead, his family got paid off pretty well I assume and the state doesn’t have to foot the bill to put this scumbag up for the next 5 years. Two things to learn from this:

1. Being rich is better than being poor, and 2. If you are going to get run over, hope its a rich guy. :rolleyes:

Let’s all sweep this under the rug now and watch TV…

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-boozed-up-dante-stallworth-kills-someone-and-gets-30-days-in-jail/499965/35 "2009-06-18T21:05:13Z")

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[http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/9699510/NFL-sus%20pends-Stallworth-indefinitely-without-pay](http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/9699510/NFL-sus%20pends-Stallworth-indefinitely-without-pay)

He’s suspended pending a sentence.

I hope the Browns can recover some cap space or something.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-boozed-up-dante-stallworth-kills-someone-and-gets-30-days-in-jail/499965/36 "2009-06-18T21:23:20Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> I hope the Browns can recover some cap space or something.

Your concern for the victim is touching. And no, you don’t get a cap exemption unless he gets placed on the non-football-related UP list.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-boozed-up-dante-stallworth-kills-someone-and-gets-30-days-in-jail/499965/37 "2009-06-18T21:41:18Z")

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Oh give me a break. Do I have to post about how terrible it is that someone died? Should I put it in my sig so that every post has a little note that says I care deeply about a victim of a player on a football team I root for?

Oh crap, like 8 more people died in this country to auto accidents in the time it took me to write this post. Oh shit now it’s 9! I have to go mourn for all of them. Oh no 10!

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-boozed-up-dante-stallworth-kills-someone-and-gets-30-days-in-jail/499965/38 "2009-06-18T22:52:46Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> [http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/9699510/NFL-sus%20pends-Stallworth-indefinitely-without-pay](http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/9699510/NFL-sus%20pends-Stallworth-indefinitely-without-pay)
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> He’s suspended pending a sentence.
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> I hope the Browns can recover some cap space or something.

Ah, you’ll just give Eric Steinbach $70 million dollars to be a backup anyway. Might as well donate it to charity or for cleaning up the local waterways so they don’t catch fire.

😉

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**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-boozed-up-dante-stallworth-kills-someone-and-gets-30-days-in-jail/499965/39 "2009-06-18T23:14:36Z")

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> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#):
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> Ah, you’ll just give Eric Steinbach $70 million dollars to be a backup anyway. Might as well donate it to charity or for cleaning up the local waterways so they don’t catch fire.
> 
> 😉

Keep trying to convince yourself of that, Bungles fan.

When Andre Smith is sitting on the ground at training camp, man titties heaving as he sobs in exhaustion, you’ll wish you hadn’t let Steinbach get away.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-boozed-up-dante-stallworth-kills-someone-and-gets-30-days-in-jail/499965/40 "2009-06-18T23:38:13Z")

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> [@MOIDALIZE](#):
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> Keep trying to convince yourself of that, Bungles fan.
> 
> When Andre Smith is sitting on the ground at training camp, man titties heaving as he sobs in exhaustion, you’ll wish you hadn’t let Steinbach get away.

Who did you draft with your first round pick?

And Andre Smith’s proof will be on Sundays. Yes, he has a better rack than my wife but have you ever watched this guy play football in the SEC?

Finally, Smith is a tackle and Steinbach is a guard, and frankly, both the guards we have now are better than Steinbach anyway. And apparently Man-Gina thinks so too, since Eric no longer appears to have a starting job. Good thing you signed a guard to all that money!

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