# A brown and white cat? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [July 7, 2008, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-brown-and-white-cat/455561 "2008-07-07T15:22:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Sattua](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sattua/32/11906_2.png) [@Sattua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sattua)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-brown-and-white-cat/455561/1 "2008-07-07T15:22:57Z")
My cat Pudding ([obligatory picture](http://flickr.com/photos/kat1980/2631713061/in/set-72157603881962949/)) is spotted with white and brown. The brown is not stripey tabby brown, but solid chocolate brown. It is slightly paler around her rump and legs, and very dark on her tail and ears. Her eyes are (well, eye is) blue. She is quite a large cat–not heavy, but with a big frame. Can anyone speculate about what her “pedigree” could be? Siamese? Ragdoll? Can you exclude any possibilities? ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-brown-and-white-cat/455561/2 "2008-07-07T15:37:44Z")
[QUOTE=Sattua] My cat Pudding ([obligatory picture](http://flickr.com/photos/kat1980/2631713061/in/set-72157603881962949/)) is spotted with white and brown. The brown is not stripey tabby brown, but solid chocolate brown. It is slightly paler around her rump and legs, and very dark on her tail and ears. Her eyes are (well, eye is) blue. She is quite a large cat–not heavy, but with a big frame. Can anyone speculate about what her “pedigree” could be? Siamese? Ragdoll? Can you exclude any possibilities? [/QUOTE] The pic looks black and white to me. Sometimes black fur can fade to a dark brown if they are in the sun a lot. Has she always been the same color? ---
**Author:** ![Sattua](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sattua/32/11906_2.png) [@Sattua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sattua)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-brown-and-white-cat/455561/3 "2008-07-07T15:42:53Z")
[QUOTE=Wile E] The pic looks black and white to me. Sometimes black fur can fade to a dark brown if they are in the sun a lot. Has she always been the same color? [/QUOTE] Ever since I got her in December, yes. She is a strictly indoors cat, so there is no sunlight fading. Here is her [glamor shot](http://flickr.com/photos/kat1980/2147989956/in/set-72157603881962949/) from the shelter. You can see the brown better. ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-brown-and-white-cat/455561/4 "2008-07-07T15:51:28Z")
She also looks black and white rather than brown and white to me as well. Given she lacks points, I don’t think I’d consider Ragdoll, Himalayan, or any of the 'eses. I’m no expert, but to me she looks the most like an [American shorthair](http://www.terrific-cats.com/breeds/american-shorthair.asp). As you can see, they’re [not](http://www.acfacats.com/american_shorthair_synopsis.htm)[all](http://blogs.catster.com/cat_of_the_day/2008/05/19/tucker-a-american-shorthair-from-toronto-on-canada/) patterned and some even have blue eyes. ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-brown-and-white-cat/455561/5 "2008-07-07T15:54:19Z")
[QUOTE=Sattua] Ever since I got her in December, yes. She is a strictly indoors cat, so there is no sunlight fading. Here is her [glamor shot](http://flickr.com/photos/kat1980/2147989956/in/set-72157603881962949/) from the shelter. You can see the brown better. [/QUOTE] In that case, with the blue eyes and the brown coloring that looks a little like the Siamese seal point and her larger size, I’d go for her having some ragdoll, especially if she has the personality you usually see with them. ETA: I don’t think she’s a pureblood. But she could certainly be a mix and you don’t have to have all the qualities of a breed to be a mix. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-brown-and-white-cat/455561/6 "2008-07-07T19:01:26Z")
I have no idea about the kitteh, but I’m drooling over your stash in the one photo…gorgeous yarn! How do you keep the cat off of it? ---
**Author:** ![Sattua](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sattua/32/11906_2.png) [@Sattua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sattua)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-brown-and-white-cat/455561/7 "2008-07-07T22:40:37Z")
[QUOTE=jayjay] I have no idea about the kitteh, but I’m drooling over your stash in the one photo…gorgeous yarn! How do you keep the cat off of it? [/QUOTE] I keep the door to that room closed unless I’m actually in the room. She isn’t much for playing with random objects in general, though. ---
**Author:** ![jeepus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jeepus/32/3593_2.png) [@jeepus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jeepus)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-brown-and-white-cat/455561/8 "2008-07-07T23:34:54Z")
Siamese Rescue would probably classify Pudding as a Snowshoe Siamese. Have a look at Leon on this page. [http://va.siameserescue.org/webbuild.php?type=adoptme&page=6&state=](http://va.siameserescue.org/webbuild.php?type=adoptme&page=6&state=) ---
**Author:** ![Sattua](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sattua/32/11906_2.png) [@Sattua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sattua)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-brown-and-white-cat/455561/9 "2008-07-07T23:58:31Z")
[QUOTE=jeepus] Siamese Rescue would probably classify Pudding as a Snowshoe Siamese. Have a look at Leon on this page. [http://va.siameserescue.org/webbuild.php?type=adoptme&page=6&state=](http://va.siameserescue.org/webbuild.php?type=adoptme&page=6&state=) [/QUOTE] Wow! That _does_ look like her, doesn’t it? Neato. Snowshoes are classified as a “rare breed”. Even though they’re technically crossbreeds. ---
**Author:** ![Enola\_Gay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ab097/32.png) [@Enola\_Gay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enola_Gay)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2008, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-brown-and-white-cat/455561/10 "2008-07-08T00:20:40Z")
Your cat is a **Kitler** and you should enroll her on this site: > **[Cats That Look Like Hitler!](http://www.catsthatlooklikehitler.com/cgi-bin/seigmiaow.pl)** > > Does your cat look like Adolf Hitler? Do you wake up in a cold sweat every night wondering if he's going to up and invade Poland? Does he keep putting his right paw in the air while making a noise that sounds suspiciously like 'Sieg Miaow'? If so,... Based on that pic, she has a very good shot at the highly coveted ‘Best Kitler’ award. And if you could teach her to hold her right paw up in the air or goosestep, she’d be a shoo-in. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Gui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@El\_Gui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Gui)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2008, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-brown-and-white-cat/455561/11 "2008-07-08T00:57:33Z")
[QUOTE=Enola Gay] Your cat is a **Kitler** and you should enroll her on this site: > **[Cats That Look Like Hitler!](http://www.catsthatlooklikehitler.com/cgi-bin/seigmiaow.pl)** > > Does your cat look like Adolf Hitler? Do you wake up in a cold sweat every night wondering if he's going to up and invade Poland? Does he keep putting his right paw in the air while making a noise that sounds suspiciously like 'Sieg Miaow'? If so,... Based on that pic, she has a very good shot at the highly coveted ‘Best Kitler’ award. And if you could teach her to hold her right paw up in the air or goosestep, she’d be a shoo-in. [/QUOTE] Yup, my vote too. Definitely a Nazi cat. [![](http://bp2.blogger.com/_Vo6z5fxMMqs/SHJGOUhJsSI/AAAAAAAAARI/fqXaJvvASug/s1600-h/Hitler+Cat.jpg) ](http://bp2.blogger.com/_Vo6z5fxMMqs/SHJGOUhJsSI/AAAAAAAAARI/fqXaJvvASug/s1600-h/Hitler+Cat.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Sattua](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sattua/32/11906_2.png) [@Sattua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sattua)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2008, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-brown-and-white-cat/455561/12 "2008-07-08T01:23:42Z")
Isn’t being a Kitler just an accident, though? I mean, the spot under the nose doesn’t breed reliably from generation to generation, does it? ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2008, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-brown-and-white-cat/455561/13 "2008-07-08T03:15:14Z")
[QUOTE=Sattua] Isn’t being a Kitler just an accident, though? [/quote] Yep. > [@](#): > > I mean, the spot under the nose doesn’t breed reliably from generation to generation, does it? Nope. It’s not quite _utterly_ random, as the piebald trait does seem to express itself in a particular pattern, spreading along the underside of a cat, upwards. But it’s mostly random. Anyway I think your cat looks less like a kitler, than someone tried to make a kitler with a magic marker and then sneezed at the finale :D. A very pretty cat, though :). ---
**Author:** ![The\_Scrivener](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@The\_Scrivener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Scrivener)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2008, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-brown-and-white-cat/455561/14 "2008-07-08T04:22:16Z")
Your cat looks like she’s trying to use that quilt as camoflage! Very charming pic of an adorable cat. ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2008, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-brown-and-white-cat/455561/15 "2008-07-08T06:10:21Z")
[QUOTE=Enola Gay] Your cat is a **Kitler** and you should enroll her on this site: > **[Cats That Look Like Hitler!](http://www.catsthatlooklikehitler.com/cgi-bin/seigmiaow.pl)** > > Does your cat look like Adolf Hitler? Do you wake up in a cold sweat every night wondering if he's going to up and invade Poland? Does he keep putting his right paw in the air while making a noise that sounds suspiciously like 'Sieg Miaow'? If so,... Based on that pic, she has a very good shot at the highly coveted ‘Best Kitler’ award. And if you could teach her to hold her right paw up in the air or goosestep, she’d be a shoo-in. [/QUOTE] Beat me to it. Yup, she’s a Kitler, all right. ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2008, 10:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-brown-and-white-cat/455561/16 "2008-07-08T10:29:23Z")
I love a Hitler Kitty. I got me one: [![Imgur](https://live.staticflickr.com/1433/573728739_5ba2273f7e_b.jpg "P3240066") ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/karlen/573728739/in/set-72157601910939464/) Your kitty is very cute, and I like her/his name.