# A Buffy / Angel game... for fans.. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 23, 2004, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-buffy-angel-game-for-fans/270820 "2004-10-23T23:18:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 18
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2004, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-buffy-angel-game-for-fans/270820/341 "2004-12-02T16:24:31Z")
> [@gonzoron](#): > > “I admit I went over to the dark side, but just to pick up a few things” Andrew to Buffy and Xander, explaining why he should be untied in “Bring on the Night.” And I re-offer: “ **Ah, yes, there is little that can distract the Willow when she’s on the hunt for the mighty syllabi.** ” ---
**Author:** ![Ezekiel25\_17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/4af34b/32.png) [@Ezekiel25\_17](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ezekiel25_17)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2004, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-buffy-angel-game-for-fans/270820/342 "2004-12-04T07:07:18Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > **Ah, yes, there is little that can distract the Willow when she’s on the hunt for the mighty syllabi.**" Xander to Buffy in Selfless. “Destroyer of the Universe. Guess cutting school doesn’t seem so bad now, huh?” ---
**Author:** ![Lsura](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7993a0/32.png) [@Lsura](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lsura)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2004, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-buffy-angel-game-for-fans/270820/343 "2004-12-04T11:34:11Z")
> [@Ezekiel25:17](#): > > “Destroyer of the Universe. Guess cutting school doesn’t seem so bad now, huh?” Dawn to Buffy in _Spiral_ “He was walking away, so unless his soul was in his ass…” ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2004, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-buffy-angel-game-for-fans/270820/344 "2004-12-04T18:21:11Z")
> [@Lsura](#): > > Dawn to Buffy in _Spiral_ > “He was walking away, so unless his soul was in his ass…” The ass in question is R.J.'s. Anya has just announced that she saw R.J.'s soul, and thus it’s reasonable to be in love with him. This was Willow’s rejoinder. “Him.” **Generally speaking, when scary things get scared? Not good.** ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2004, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-buffy-angel-game-for-fans/270820/345 "2004-12-04T19:11:34Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > **Generally speaking, when scary things get scared? Not good.** Um, gonna guess Ethan to Giles in “A New Man.” Assuming that’s correct, “You want to be enemies? Try me.” ---
**Author:** ![Greg\_Charles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/839c29/32.png) [@Greg\_Charles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greg_Charles)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2004, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-buffy-angel-game-for-fans/270820/346 "2004-12-05T14:30:33Z")
> [@Otto](#): > > Um, gonna guess Ethan to Giles in “A New Man.” > > Assuming that’s correct, “You want to be enemies? Try me.” No, way. Bricker’s is a Xander quote. I think it’s from the one where Buffy comes back from running away, and they throw a party in her honor, but are all secretly still pissed at her. Yours is Angel to Kate is an earlyish episode of Angel … maybe season 1? **Did anyone else feel too tall? I felt way too tall.** I hope that hasn’t been used already. Actually, I hope _I_ haven’t used it already! ---
**Author:** ![threeorange](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@threeorange](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/threeorange)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2004, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-buffy-angel-game-for-fans/270820/347 "2004-12-05T14:43:12Z")
> [@Greg Charles](#): > > **Did anyone else feel too tall? I felt way too tall.** I think this was said by Riley in **Superstar** , comparing himself to the diminutive superstar in question, Jonathan. ---
**Author:** ![threeorange](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@threeorange](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/threeorange)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2004, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-buffy-angel-game-for-fans/270820/348 "2004-12-05T21:45:52Z")
Oh yeah, I need a quote. “This was me favorite shirt. This was me only shirt!” ---
**Author:** ![cryptic\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/898d66/32.png) [@cryptic\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cryptic_j)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2004, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-buffy-angel-game-for-fans/270820/349 "2004-12-06T13:38:32Z")
That was Kendra - - when her shirt gets torn - - I think she says it to herself… and I’ve eushed headlong in without a quote of my own… ummm… how about… **You were my Yoda!** ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2004, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-buffy-angel-game-for-fans/270820/350 "2004-12-06T15:51:47Z")
> [@cryptic\_j](#): > > **You were my Yoda!** Spike to Angel, “School Hard.” “Did anybody order an apocolypse?” ---
**Author:** ![Ezekiel25\_17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/4af34b/32.png) [@Ezekiel25\_17](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ezekiel25_17)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2004, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-buffy-angel-game-for-fans/270820/351 "2004-12-08T06:28:27Z")
> [@Otto](#): > > “Did anybody order an apocolypse?” It’s Glory to the gang. I’m moderately certain it’s “Tough Love” If I’m right (I’ll be suprised) heres a new one: "That is wrong. A big, fat, spanking wrong. It’s a slap in the face to every one of us who studied hard and worked long hours to earn our D’s. " ---
**Author:** ![cryptic\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/898d66/32.png) [@cryptic\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cryptic_j)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2004, 10:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-buffy-angel-game-for-fans/270820/352 "2004-12-08T10:16:05Z")
Xander to Willow/Buffy Giles in “Go Fish” referencing Willow being asked to pass a swimmer who is failing computer class my quote… **I’m standing right here** probably ---
**Author:** ![Greg\_Charles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/839c29/32.png) [@Greg\_Charles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greg_Charles)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2004, 10:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-buffy-angel-game-for-fans/270820/353 "2004-12-08T10:38:18Z")
> [@cryptic\_j](#): > > Xander to Willow/Buffy Giles in “Go Fish” > referencing Willow being asked to pass a swimmer who is failing computer class > > my quote… > **I’m standing right here** > probably Buffy to Dracula, who is trying to rematerialize after being slain. **My dad tried to sell me to some Armenians once.** (I’m 25% Armenian, but my family wasn’t among the buyers.) ---
**Author:** ![Lsura](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7993a0/32.png) [@Lsura](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lsura)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2004, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-buffy-angel-game-for-fans/270820/354 "2004-12-08T11:44:34Z")
> [@](#): > > **My dad tried to sell me to some Armenians once.** Xander to Buffy in _Inca Mummy Girl_ “Was it a boy demon?” ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2004, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-buffy-angel-game-for-fans/270820/355 "2004-12-08T15:05:55Z")
> [@Lsura](#): > > “Was it a boy demon?” Willow to Buffy, who’s stressing about what “aspect of the demon” she may end up with in _Earshot_. “Five.” (followed by a shrug) ---
**Author:** ![cbawlmer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/71e660/32.png) [@cbawlmer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cbawlmer)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2004, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-buffy-angel-game-for-fans/270820/356 "2004-12-08T18:03:09Z")
I love that one! It’s Willow and Tara to the Watcher’s Council representative in “Checkpoint”. “So what do we know about it, other than it’s fortressy and demony?” ---
**Author:** ![Big\_Norse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/big_norse/32/9954_2.png) [@Big\_Norse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Big_Norse)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2004, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-buffy-angel-game-for-fans/270820/357 "2004-12-08T21:41:03Z")
> [@cbawlmer](#): > > “So what do we know about it, other than it’s fortressy and demony?” Angel to Wesley before he goes into Skip’s dimension the first time so he can release the guy in the fire box. Second or Third season. Go to Hell! Been there, done that. ---
**Author:** ![Greg\_Charles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/839c29/32.png) [@Greg\_Charles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greg_Charles)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2004, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-buffy-angel-game-for-fans/270820/358 "2004-12-09T14:33:13Z")
> [@Big\_Norse](#): > > Go to Hell! > Been there, done that. First line: Kate to Angel, speaking metaphorically. Second line: Angel, speaking literally. Hence, the irony. Ha, ha. I didn’t watch Angel nearly as faithfully as BtVS. What ever happened to Kate? **To read makes our speaking English good.** ---
**Author:** ![Big\_Norse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/big_norse/32/9954_2.png) [@Big\_Norse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Big_Norse)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2004, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-buffy-angel-game-for-fans/270820/359 "2004-12-09T15:42:28Z")
> [@Greg Charles](#): > > First line: Kate to Angel, speaking metaphorically. Second line: Angel, speaking literally. Hence, the irony. Ha, ha. I didn’t watch Angel nearly as faithfully as BtVS. What ever happened to Kate? After her father was killed she got bitter and disillusioned and decided to leave L.A. and police work for a better life, never to be seen again (until she popped up as the assistant district attorney on Law & Order). I for one certainly didn’t miss her. ---
**Author:** ![Cliffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@Cliffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cliffy)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2004, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-buffy-angel-game-for-fans/270820/360 "2004-12-09T16:21:38Z")
> [@Greg Charles](#): > > What ever happened to Kate?\*\* **Big\_Norse** missed a few datapoints. Actually, IMO, Kate’s story arc ended in a very powerful bit of television (IMO, one of Angel’s brightest spots), so I recommend that anyone who hasn’t seen it do so rather than read the following. (Of course, I always liked Kate.) [spoiler]This all happens in the middle of the second season. Kate and Angel’s relationship has been a cool one since he failed to save her dad in S1. Meanwhile, because of some things W&H has done in the first part of S2, Angel has sunk into a violent depression, has abandoned his friends and Angel Investigations, and at one point locked a roomful of W&H employees – humans – in with Darla and Drusila as revenge. He does check up on his former friends sometimes, though, and at one point he sees them being menaced by a bunch of zombie cops. He enlists Kate’s help to figure this out and they eventually confront the police captain that’s to blame. In the next episode, Angel continues not giving a crap about the world. Unfortunately for Kate, the police captain from the last episode makes up a bunch of stories and gets her fired. She too sinks into depression and takes pills which she washes down with booze. As she drifts into unconsciousness she calls Angel’s answering machine and leaves a message in lieu of a suicide note. Angel hears the message but doesn’t do anything about it. Then, for reasons I won’t go into (but it’s good TV), Angel has an epiphany and rededicates himself to helping people. He remembers what Kate is doing so he rushes to her apartment and bursts in to find her lying unconscious on the floor. Nonetheless, he drags her into a cold shower and manages to bring her back. Later, after she’s recovered, Kate tells Angel she has to get out of the town where everything’s gone so wrong for her. Then she says that his arrival kind of renewed her faith, because he managed to get in to save her even though she’d never invited him in. They part friends, and that’s the last we see of her.[/spoiler] –Cliffy [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-buffy-angel-game-for-fans/270820.md?page=17) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-buffy-angel-game-for-fans/270820.md?page=19)