Do these people offer any ideas about what to do about this “fringe” element? Or is simple denunciation on an Internet board sufficient?
These are private citizens from all over the country voicing their opinions on the internet. Similar to here. What do you suggest they do?
Come up with a practical solution to the problem they’ve identified - which is what anyone who sincerely believes a problem exists and should be addressed does.
Convince the populace that people who are openly carrying aren’t a threat, then get open carry passed for handguns.
They’re having problems with that first part. In Texas.
What an odd choice by the military. You’d think they’d realize that military bases would be far safer if everyone was walking around heavily armed at all times.
So what is your solution? I’m waiting.
OCT is not breaking any laws. They are so far being very careful not to. Having those who should generally be on their side telling them that their actions are being counterproductive seems to be a prudent measure. In fact it seems to be working.
They are adjusting their tactics to now open carry black powder weapons. Not too many people with be intimidated by an unloaded flintlock and it still gets their point across.
That depends… they’re talking about open carry of black powder revolvers, which most people can’t tell, from a distance, from the usual kind. And, still six-shooters, so a half-dozen guys with black powder revolvers are still going to get pretty much the same reaction, I’d wager.
Please. If your and your guys have nothing, just say so, okay?
But I’ll tell you - the link between the presence of guns and people being killed with them should be pretty obvious. So, since you’re not going to change the problem of people being human, and of sometimes getting angry, or scared, or being drunk, or being assholes, or realistically even being crazy, then you need to address the problem of their being able to kill when those things occur, right? So let’s ban carry, open or otherwise, and save some lives. Why would we not?
It does? What point is that?
Agree!
If you can’t find “a good guy with a gun” there, where can you?
This is not complete. For example there are armed guards walking a post, for example guarding an armory. These sentries are not in any of the categories you describe.
Let’s not forget the intentional deaths caused by drivers ramming their cars into a crowd, too.
Just about anything can be a weapon.
But very few things have almost no use *but *as weapons. And very few things are carried with no intent other than that they *be *used as weapons. And very few things are used as weapons when objects *intended *to be weapons are available instead. Or are as effective in causing death when they *are *used as weapons.
IOW, your point, please?
Versus the lost business of every other person in there who had children with them. Because most parents are not going to allow their kids to be around some unknown individual sporting a pistol or long gun. It’s a basic safety issue. They don’t know what your intentions are, and simply cannot take the chance. And they’re not going to come back as long as you and other unknowns are allowed to wander around armed.
So your burger and fries and coke versus say, twenty burgers and fries and cokes. It’s a pretty easy decision for anyone who wants their business to remain profitable.
Regards,
-Bouncer-
They’re training to be pirates! Arrr!!! OR they want to work in Colonial Williamsburg.
Regards,
-Bouncer-
That’s true.
But it also illustrates the value in making open carry commonplace. If most parents see open carry being exercised every day, by different people who are simply going about their business, it loses the shock value.
In Virginia, open carry of handguns is perfectly legal – no license or permit needed. And yet it’s so unusual that Fairfax County police officers charged two people with a crime, and confiscated their guns, after being called to a Starbucks by alarmed patrons. The next day the officer realized that there was no actual violation of the law, returned the guns, apologized, and voided the summonses.
So it’s so rare to see it done, at least in Northern Virginia, that a police officer was not aware it’s actually legal.
And that’s a good thing how? :dubious:
If it even happens that it “loses the shock value”, and you offer no evidence that it does. In fact, your sole example suggests the opposite to be true.
I don’t think it does, though. Threat assessment is an activity humans do both consciously and sub-consciously. Just walking down the street, your mind is constantly profiling the other pedestrians and triangulating vehicle trajectories in an attempt to detect potential danger. I don’t think you could get people to the point where an armed person doesn’t raise their threat value.
Where’s Wyatt Earp when you need him to round up some armed hooligans?
Rather than losing shock value, our own history indicates the opposite. People tend to want more restrictions on open carry. As noted above, even the majority of Texans comes down on that side of the fence.
No where in his post did he say that. Way to read shit tons of crap into his post just to try to make you point of “I’m a big giant pussy who if I even see a gun on tv I crawl into the corner and cry like a baby because I’m a big giant pussy.”