# A call to Western New York dopers **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [June 14, 2002, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-call-to-western-new-york-dopers/113987 "2002-06-14T05:34:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2002, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-call-to-western-new-york-dopers/113987/1 "2002-06-14T05:34:08Z")
So it looks like I’ll be relocating in the near future. Probably out of Western New York where I’ve been living for over a decade. And I thought that before I go, we should have a dopefest. Then I realized something. They’re aren’t all that many of us out here. Off the top of my head Booker, Zette, and me were the only names that came to mind. Is it possible that in a region this large with several major cities we are truly that bereft of dopers? This might explain why the Rochester Dopefest two years ago only had eight people and over half of them were from somewhere else. So who else is out there from the other half of New York state? And will we be doing a dopefest before our numbers are depleted by one? ---
**Author:** ![Eran](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Eran](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eran)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2002, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-call-to-western-new-york-dopers/113987/2 "2002-06-14T13:14:15Z")
I live in Rochester but I am about to go to California for two years so I can’t help you there. ---
**Author:** ![racinchikki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/eada6e/32.png) [@racinchikki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/racinchikki)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2002, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-call-to-western-new-york-dopers/113987/3 "2002-06-14T15:15:11Z")
“The other half”? Most of the country seems to think the only part of New York that exists is the City. The whole state drops off somewhere around Poughkeepsie, which is “Upstate,” you see. I don’t really exist here in Albany. **You** _definitely_ don’t exist. You’re a figment of your own imagination. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2002, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-call-to-western-new-york-dopers/113987/4 "2002-06-14T17:24:00Z")
> [@](#): > > “The other half”? Most of the country seems to think the only part of New York that exists is the City. The whole state drops off somewhere around Poughkeepsie, which is “Upstate,” you see. I don’t really exist here in Albany. You definitely don’t exist. You’re a figment of your own imagination. Most of New York City thinks the only part of New York that exists is the City. Except for the people in Manhattan who don’t even believe in the other boroughs. They think “upstate” starts when the street numbers go to three digits. ---
**Author:** ![BoBettie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4af34b/32.png) [@BoBettie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BoBettie)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2002, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-call-to-western-new-york-dopers/113987/5 "2002-06-14T23:27:58Z")
I’m in the Binghamton area- where are you, Nemo? Zette ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2002, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-call-to-western-new-york-dopers/113987/6 "2002-06-15T04:39:00Z")
I live pretty much in the middle of western NY, about 40 miles south of Rochester (and about two hours from Binghamton). It’s surprising but it appears that there are no dopers in Buffalo, Rochester (except the departing Eran), or Syracuse. Nor are any jumping in from the numerous college towns in the region. ---
**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2002, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-call-to-western-new-york-dopers/113987/7 "2002-06-15T05:18:07Z")
Although I don’t live in western NY, I would be willing to travel there for a dopefest. (I live in Troy in the capital district.) ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2002, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-call-to-western-new-york-dopers/113987/8 "2002-06-15T23:07:30Z")
I’ll be driving past you next Sat. on my way to the 1000 Islands with my kids. How 'bout I wave? ---
**Author:** ![friggae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/45deac/32.png) [@friggae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friggae)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2002, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-call-to-western-new-york-dopers/113987/9 "2002-06-16T04:20:17Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Little Nemo \* > \*\* Nor are any jumping in from the numerous college towns in the region. \*\* I guess I’ll chime in for Ithaca then. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Billdo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/billdo/32/315_2.png) [@Billdo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Billdo)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2002, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-call-to-western-new-york-dopers/113987/10 "2002-06-16T04:41:11Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Little Nemo \* > Most of New York City thinks the only part of New York that exists is the City. Except for the people in Manhattan who don’t even believe in the other boroughs. They think “upstate” starts when the street numbers go to three digits. I really resent what you upstaters think of us Manhattanites. As a Manhattan resident, who is well-travelled around New York State, remarks like that just piss me off. I can definitively state that Upstate begins no lower than the George Washington Brigde. By your comment you would have us think that Yankee Stadium was upstate. It certainly is not! On the other hand, I went upstate to the Bronx Zoo last weekend. :: grins, ducks and runs – downtown :: ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2002, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-call-to-western-new-york-dopers/113987/11 "2002-06-16T04:49:04Z")
New York, New York, it’s a helluva town The Bronx is upstate, the Battery’s down ---
**Author:** ![elmwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmwood/32/3060_2.png) [@elmwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elmwood)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2002, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-call-to-western-new-york-dopers/113987/12 "2002-06-17T03:16:31Z")
Former Buffalonian checking in. Hutch Tech (HS), Buff State (UG), UB (grad). Born and raised in a frame semi-bungalow in the Kensington/University Heights neighborhood. I was weaned on Genny Cream Ale, bleed Bills blue, and still have a 97 Rock t-shirt from high school. However, I don’t have a Buffalo eee-ACK-sent, and I’m not Catholic … go figure. Remember, the diaspora of young, educated professionals that were born and raised in Western New York is growing. It seems as if there’s more UB, Buff State, Canisius and Niagara grads in Charlotte than Buffalo itself. When I look at personal ad sites, profiles of Buffalonians for a certain age group will be about one third to one quarter the number of that in another similarly sized metro area.