# A Canadian flames the whole Canadian Olympic Mess!

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 14, 2010, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-canadian-flames-the-whole-canadian-olympic-mess/528922 "2010-02-14T03:35:12Z")\
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**Author:** ![MoodIndigo1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e8c25b/32.png) [@MoodIndigo1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MoodIndigo1)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2010, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-canadian-flames-the-whole-canadian-olympic-mess/528922/301 "2010-02-28T23:30:07Z")

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We’ll forgive you because you’re hot, diaper and all.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2010, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-canadian-flames-the-whole-canadian-olympic-mess/528922/302 "2010-02-28T23:35:04Z")

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2010 – Canada now has the record for the most gold medals won at a Winter Olympics.

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**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2010, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-canadian-flames-the-whole-canadian-olympic-mess/528922/303 "2010-02-28T23:52:01Z")

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> [@Valteron](#):
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> All right, I apologize for all those things I said in the OP. You can see a picture of me going down on my knees to say I am sorry (wearing my best incontinence diaper) [here](http://blogs.sltrib.com/movies/uploaded_images/38860714-750519.jpg).

I think I pictured you with glasses…

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**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2010, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-canadian-flames-the-whole-canadian-olympic-mess/528922/304 "2010-03-01T00:03:09Z")

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Happy now? I used to think everybody from Canada was nice and pleasant. I had to start posting on the SDMB to find out that some Canadians can give New Yorkers a run for their money. Anyway, to all the happy, nice and pleasant Canadians out there, congratulations.

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**Author:** ![Baffle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/dec6dc/32.png) [@Baffle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baffle)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2010, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-canadian-flames-the-whole-canadian-olympic-mess/528922/305 "2010-03-01T00:52:16Z")

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I’ve been a bit annoyed with the international coverage of these games. Apparently if Canadians don’t act precisely according to their self-effacing stereotype, and actually engage in a public display of patriotism, they cause a short circuit in the foreign media. What, do you think Canadians aren’t patriotic? Americans in particular can’t grasp that someone might actually like a non-US country, and seem to be under the impression that we exist only for the hope that we might one day be allowed to live there. Maybe as a result of these games, Canadians won’t just be seen as a caricature any more.

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**Author:** ![Martini\_Enfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/martini_enfield/32/11123_2.png) [@Martini\_Enfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martini_Enfield)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2010, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-canadian-flames-the-whole-canadian-olympic-mess/528922/306 "2010-03-01T01:21:30Z")

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> [@manx](#):
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> My girlfriend is Norwegian, and has told me that the Norwegian media throw tantrums when Norway doesn’t top medal table at the Winter Olympics. The idea seems to be that since they’ve normally win, they should ALWAYS win.
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> Luckily I come from New Zealand. I don’t believe we compete in the Winter Olympics, but if we did, we’d tot out the same line we do for the Summer games:
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> _‘we’ve actually done very well when you look at medals per capita’_  
> \*‘kids aren’t been taught that defeat is shameful, and tastes like bitter ashes in your mouth. There’s too much emphasis on participation and having fun! WEAKNESS!’ \*
> 
> Every time. And it gets old - we’re a small nation, and we don’t put the resources that, say, Australia, puts into its sportspeople. The net result is we win six medals, Australia wins sixty and the NZ media has a sulk and drags out one of those lines.

Australia actually has a sports institute- the Australian Institute of Sport- which was set up primarily to ensure Australia wins lots of Gold Medals at the Olympics, in the wake of the Montreal Olympics (IIRC) where Australia didn’t win any and was subsequently very embarrassed.

Interestingly, I don’t know anyone here who’s actually paying attention to the Winter Olympics…

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2010, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-canadian-flames-the-whole-canadian-olympic-mess/528922/307 "2010-03-01T02:09:08Z")

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> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#):
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> Happy now? I used to think everybody from Canada was nice and pleasant. I had to start posting on the SDMB to find out that some Canadians can give New Yorkers a run for their money. Anyway, to all the happy, nice and pleasant Canadians out there, congratulations.

I’m a right bitch.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2010, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-canadian-flames-the-whole-canadian-olympic-mess/528922/308 "2010-03-01T03:27:30Z")

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I feel much more secure knowing that you are not just a right bitch, but you are our designated Canadian right bitch.

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**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2010, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-canadian-flames-the-whole-canadian-olympic-mess/528922/309 "2010-03-01T03:57:40Z")

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I think that maybe it was the grumpy rantings of that old Canadian that spurred on his country to perform feats of greatness and to take home the most golds. So perhaps maybe it is all of you Canadians who should be thanking **Val** for having the balls and patriotism to spur on the rest of his country into a well oiled Canadian Gold Winning Machine!

Anybody want to thank him?

Anybody?  
Well… I tried, \*\*Val \*\*😃

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2010, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-canadian-flames-the-whole-canadian-olympic-mess/528922/310 "2010-03-01T03:59:26Z")

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The loser of olympic proportions and his ilk having motivated the athletes? Not a chance.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2010, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-canadian-flames-the-whole-canadian-olympic-mess/528922/311 "2010-03-01T04:04:12Z")

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> [@Baffle](#):
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> I’ve been a bit annoyed with the international coverage of these games. Apparently if Canadians don’t act precisely according to their self-effacing stereotype, and actually engage in a public display of patriotism, they cause a short circuit in the foreign media.

Where, exactly, is this happening? I’ve seen nothing of the kind.

I spent the last week in the USA watching Olympic coverage and saw nary a hint that Americans thought Canadians shouldn’t be patriotic. Not even the suggestion. Is there some other country people were saying this? It seems unlikely.

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**Author:** ![Kid\_A\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Kid\_A\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kid_A_1)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2010, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-canadian-flames-the-whole-canadian-olympic-mess/528922/312 "2010-03-01T04:09:11Z")

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I believe most of that kind of press came from Britain and Russia. The Brits were surprisingly harsh but it may have only been the tabloids.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2010, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-canadian-flames-the-whole-canadian-olympic-mess/528922/313 "2010-03-01T04:41:58Z")

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> [@Muffin](#):
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> I feel much more secure knowing that you are not just a right bitch, but you are our designated Canadian right bitch.

I’m **THE** right bitch? Cool! 😃

The Brits think we shouldn’t be patriotic? Pshaw. Half of what we were celebrating was surviving another winter.

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**Author:** ![BMada](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@BMada](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMada)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2010, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-canadian-flames-the-whole-canadian-olympic-mess/528922/314 "2010-03-01T04:43:08Z")

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> [@ToeJam](#):
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> Anybody want to thank him?

I was gonna post something like the one you made **ToeJam** , however I was gonna actually thank **Valteron**

THANKS VALTERON! You are the motivator of all of the Canadian Olympic Athletes you have the power of a god. Please motivate other groups of people to do your will and it shall be done. Forever and ever. Amen.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2010, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-canadian-flames-the-whole-canadian-olympic-mess/528922/315 "2010-03-01T04:44:59Z")

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Can you complain about Canadian politicians being self-serving assholes next? Kthxbai.

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**Author:** ![BMada](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@BMada](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMada)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2010, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-canadian-flames-the-whole-canadian-olympic-mess/528922/316 "2010-03-01T04:51:35Z")

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Screw Canada, lets get some sort of World group to be motivated. Let’s see if Valteron’s powers extends to mother Earth.

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**Author:** ![Annie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/858c86/32.png) [@Annie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2010, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-canadian-flames-the-whole-canadian-olympic-mess/528922/317 "2010-03-01T05:37:59Z")

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> [@Baffle](#):
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> Apparently if Canadians don’t act precisely according to their self-effacing stereotype, and actually engage in a public display of patriotism, they cause a short circuit in the foreign media. What, do you think Canadians aren’t patriotic? .

[We aren’t normally like this, but it was a _hockey game_ dammit!](http://www.ctvolympics.ca/news-centre/newsid=54824.html#vancouvers+olympic+party+explodes+life)

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**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2010, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-canadian-flames-the-whole-canadian-olympic-mess/528922/318 "2010-03-01T07:35:23Z")

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> [@Kid\_A](#):
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> I believe most of that kind of press came from Britain and Russia. The Brits were surprisingly harsh but it may have only been the tabloids.

Think you’re wrong there.

Most of the headlines here were either baffled amusement (18 year old criticised for having a beer, in public, after gold medal victory…wtf? So what) or annoyance at IoC (particularly the timing of Jacques Rogge’s statement about possibly axing women’s ice hockey, a few hours before the final. That man really is a prick)

Shit, I think we’d be pleasantly surprised if a British team, having won gold, limited their celebrations to a beer and a cigar! That’s pretty much a definition for decorum, compared to the way we tend to celebrate stuff (16 hours of binge drinking before passing out in the arms of a complete strangers).

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**Author:** ![ThePylon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@ThePylon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThePylon)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2010, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-canadian-flames-the-whole-canadian-olympic-mess/528922/319 "2010-03-01T13:42:46Z")

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> [@ThePylon](#):
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> Not to get too ahead of ourselves, but …
> 
> Women’s curling Silver  
> Men’s 500m short track Gold  
> Women’s 1000m short track **err… maybe not…**  
> Men’s 5000m relay short track Gold  
> Women’s pursuit (long track) **WTF?**  
> Men’s pursuit (long track) Gold  
> Men’s Curling Gold  
> Men’s Hockey Gold  
> Are all events Canada could, reasonably, win medals, and therefore Gold in.

'scuse me whilst I pat myself on the back…

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**Author:** ![Kid\_A\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Kid\_A\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kid_A_1)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2010, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-canadian-flames-the-whole-canadian-olympic-mess/528922/320 "2010-03-01T13:56:23Z")

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> [@Gary\_Kumquat](#):
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> Think you’re wrong there.

Well, in this morning’s Toronto Star there’s [this article](http://olympics.thestar.com/2010/article/773266--brits-russians-grumble-as-games-end) titled “Brits, Russians grumble as Games end” which links to articles from The Guardian and The Times of London.

This is from The Times: “Canada has not come of age in Vancouver 2010. Canada has regressed into a sneering but ultimately impotent adolescence. It’s been — well, rather unattractive on the whole.”

Honestly, what did we ever do to you guys?

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