# A child finally settles the claim that people are basically good

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [August 31, 2016, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-child-finally-settles-the-claim-that-people-are-basically-good/764611 "2016-08-31T22:34:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![Salvor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Salvor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Salvor)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2016, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-child-finally-settles-the-claim-that-people-are-basically-good/764611/1 "2016-08-31T22:34:30Z")

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Quick clip of a childs solution to the trolley problem. Not much else to say.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/-N_RZJUAQY4/maxresdefault.jpg "A two-year-old's solution to the trolley problem") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-N_RZJUAQY4)

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**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2016, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-child-finally-settles-the-claim-that-people-are-basically-good/764611/2 "2016-08-31T23:28:40Z")

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Good post. Good point.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-child-finally-settles-the-claim-that-people-are-basically-good/764611/3 "2016-09-01T00:18:07Z")

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He then went on to solve the Prisoner’s Dilemma by shanking the DA.

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**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-child-finally-settles-the-claim-that-people-are-basically-good/764611/4 "2016-09-01T00:46:36Z")

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He went with the “I think your hypothetical is bullshit” approach to resolving it. Does he post here?  
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**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-child-finally-settles-the-claim-that-people-are-basically-good/764611/5 "2016-09-01T00:48:35Z")

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A trolley is rolling out of control down a track where it will kill an ethicist. You can throw a switch that will move the trolley to a track where it will kill 5 ethicists. Should you throw the switch knowing that by doing so, you save the life of an ethicist?

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**Author:** ![Jeff\_Lichtman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jeff_lichtman/32/1531_2.png) [@Jeff\_Lichtman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jeff_Lichtman)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-child-finally-settles-the-claim-that-people-are-basically-good/764611/6 "2016-09-01T07:19:55Z")

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The kid believes in equality.

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**Author:** ![Giles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giles/32/60_2.png) [@Giles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giles)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 8:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-child-finally-settles-the-claim-that-people-are-basically-good/764611/7 "2016-09-01T08:02:58Z")

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He’s a two-year-old. He likes crashing things. (And he knew he wasn’t hurting any real people.)

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**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 9:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-child-finally-settles-the-claim-that-people-are-basically-good/764611/8 "2016-09-01T09:27:49Z")

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Destruction, like knocking all the stacked blocks down, precedes construction, stacking the blocks, in child development. A well tested and well known fact.

What was the ‘good point’ supposed to be?

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 9:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-child-finally-settles-the-claim-that-people-are-basically-good/764611/9 "2016-09-01T09:35:01Z")

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I think a good point might be that this OP would have been better off in MPSIMS…

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**Author:** ![si\_blakely](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d9b06d/32.png) [@si\_blakely](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/si_blakely)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 10:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-child-finally-settles-the-claim-that-people-are-basically-good/764611/10 "2016-09-01T10:17:31Z")

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I have to say, [this](http://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/1985/11/27) was my first thought when I saw the video …

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-child-finally-settles-the-claim-that-people-are-basically-good/764611/11 "2016-09-01T10:58:15Z")

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We’re _this close_ to driverless cars, yet people are talking about trolleys?

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**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-child-finally-settles-the-claim-that-people-are-basically-good/764611/12 "2016-09-01T12:12:54Z")

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Anyone want to share what happens in the video?

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-child-finally-settles-the-claim-that-people-are-basically-good/764611/13 "2016-09-01T12:24:36Z")

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> [@Eonwe](#):
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> Anyone want to share what happens in the video?

Dad set up a train set with a track split: five toy people lying one way, one toy person lying down the other way. He tells the kid the train is on it’s way to run over the 5 people – should he switch it to go the other way? The kid responds by picking up the one toy person and moving it over to the 5 people (so now it’s 6 people on one track), and proceeds to ram the train over all 6 people.

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-child-finally-settles-the-claim-that-people-are-basically-good/764611/14 "2016-09-01T12:25:36Z")

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> [@Eonwe](#):
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> Anyone want to share what happens in the video?

I didn’t watch it, but I’m guessing the child chose death over cake.

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**Author:** ![Memnon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f1d935/32.png) [@Memnon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Memnon)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-child-finally-settles-the-claim-that-people-are-basically-good/764611/15 "2016-09-01T12:56:08Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Dad set up a train set with a track split: five toy people lying one way, one toy person lying down the other way. He tells the kid the train is on it’s way to run over the 5 people – should he switch it to go the other way? The kid responds by picking up the one toy person and moving it over to the 5 people (so now it’s 6 people on one track), and proceeds to ram the train over all 6 people.

…Thereby leaving no witnesses. Smart.

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**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-child-finally-settles-the-claim-that-people-are-basically-good/764611/16 "2016-09-01T13:03:45Z")

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> [@Giles](#):
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> He’s a two-year-old. He likes crashing things. (And he knew he wasn’t hurting any real people.)

Way to kill the buzz of the topic by using reality.

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**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-child-finally-settles-the-claim-that-people-are-basically-good/764611/17 "2016-09-01T13:24:13Z")

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> [@Memnon](#):
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> …Thereby leaving no witnesses. Smart.

He knew he was being recorded though, which is why he expressed a regretful “Uh oh!” at the catastrophe.

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**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-child-finally-settles-the-claim-that-people-are-basically-good/764611/18 "2016-09-01T15:53:43Z")

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BTW: image search on “Cut in half by train” WILL turn up lots of grisly pictures.

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**Author:** ![Doctor\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctor_jackson/32/32_2.png) [@Doctor\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Jackson)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-child-finally-settles-the-claim-that-people-are-basically-good/764611/19 "2016-09-01T20:28:19Z")

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BTBTW: image search on “cut in half by butterfly” doesn’t

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-child-finally-settles-the-claim-that-people-are-basically-good/764611/20 "2016-09-01T20:40:50Z")

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BTBTBTW: observe the power of the BigButterfly lobby.

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