# A chilling new type of Denialist

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 10, 2014, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-chilling-new-type-of-denialist/688093 "2014-05-10T01:45:49Z")\
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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2014, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-chilling-new-type-of-denialist/688093/1 "2014-05-10T01:45:49Z")

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[Fuckheads. Premium Fuckheads](http://www.kpho.com/story/25465508/thief-claiming-sandy-hook-shooting-was-a-hoax-steals-playground-sign)

\*A sign at the entrance of a new playground for Sandy Hook victim Grace McDonnell was stolen in Mystic Tuesday. After the sign was taken, police said someone called the McDonnell family and claimed to have taken the sign because [color=“Brown”]the Newtown shooting was a hoax.

Police said the sign was 50 pounds and was meant as a symbol of peace. It was put in place by the “Where Angels Play Foundation.” The organization continues to build playgrounds across the country to honor the victims of the shooting.

The sign theft comes just days after vandals painted graffiti at a playground in Hartford dedicated to Newtown victim Anna Grace Marquez-Greene.

“The goodness of people built this and then someone has the audacity to come and steal what is a peace sign, I think it was,” said Skip Medbury, of Old Mystic. Lavin said a new sign has been ordered and will be installed soon. Meanwhile neighbors said they still shake their heads at a senseless crime. “You can’t stop ignorant people. You never know who they are,” Medbury said.

Each playground is unique to each of the victims they are dedicated to, including Grace’s artwork. Lavin told Eyewitness News he hopes the peace sign does someone some good.

Police said they were searching for the sign’s thief.\*\* 860-599-4411\*\*.[/COLOR]\*

Is there a lower than that?

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2014, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-chilling-new-type-of-denialist/688093/2 "2014-05-10T01:54:44Z")

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Salon called them Newtown truthers.

> **[Meet the Sandy Hook truthers](https://www.salon.com/2013/01/09/the_worst_sandy_hook_conspiracy_theory_yet/)**
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> Theorists think they've found “absolute proof” that Newtown was a hoax. Have they no shame?

Some of them were/are involved in making truther “documentaries” about 9/11. it is close, but I do think that the 9/11 truthers that propose that the passengers are alive and part of the conspiracy the ones that are lowest.

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2014, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-chilling-new-type-of-denialist/688093/3 "2014-05-10T02:00:53Z")

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Not new

> **[Conspiracy douchebags harrassing Sandy Hook man who helped kids](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=679081)**
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> http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/gene-rosen-sandy-hook-conspiracy-155033813.html I’d say this rises to the epic level of douchebaggery.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2014, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-chilling-new-type-of-denialist/688093/4 "2014-05-10T02:17:38Z")

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There are people who believe that this was all set up by the Obama administration to get guns banned. Guess what? It wasn’t.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2014, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-chilling-new-type-of-denialist/688093/5 "2014-05-10T02:33:14Z")

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Oh yeah? Prove it!

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2014, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-chilling-new-type-of-denialist/688093/6 "2014-05-10T02:55:24Z")

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What’s wrong with teaching the controversy?

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**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2014, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-chilling-new-type-of-denialist/688093/7 "2014-05-10T03:42:43Z")

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We’re just asking questions.

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2014, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-chilling-new-type-of-denialist/688093/8 "2014-05-10T04:30:58Z")

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I’ll let the level headed ministers wife [speak for me](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh2sWSVRrmo).

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**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2014, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-chilling-new-type-of-denialist/688093/9 "2014-05-10T04:36:14Z")

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They’ve been around long enough for Metanbunk to have a whole subsection destroying their nonsense.

> **[Sandy Hook](https://www.metabunk.org/forums/sandy-hook.24/)**
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> Sandy Hook shooting conspiracies broken down by subject, in a stand-alone forum. New threads are moderated.

Shooting fish in a barrel in most cases but it is nice to see this group torpedoed before they gain any momentum.

90% of these folks claims are subjective ‘if I ran the zoo’ claims of how thing should have happened at the scene or silly things like the kids not looking horrified enough in the press pics.

The remain 10% is just repeating things that were already resolved.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2014, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-chilling-new-type-of-denialist/688093/10 "2014-05-10T05:12:24Z")

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I suppose to be convinced, they will have to see pictures of the carnage, because the press never published those, so how can we be sure. Goddam snuff-o-philes. So then, if they get to see the actual pictures (and phap to them), it will be, “_oh, those are obviously faked_.”

These people need therapy. Lots and lots of Thorazine ought to do the trick.

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2014, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-chilling-new-type-of-denialist/688093/11 "2014-05-10T05:19:35Z")

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“Where Angels Play”? Denied! If you believe in that sort of thing at all, you’d know people don’t become angels, they become saints.

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**Author:** ![njtt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ecd19e/32.png) [@njtt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/njtt)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2014, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-chilling-new-type-of-denialist/688093/12 "2014-05-10T05:21:16Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> I suppose to be convinced, they will have to see pictures of the carnage, because the press never published those, so how can we be sure. Goddam snuff-o-philes. So then, if they get to see the actual pictures (and phap to them), it will be, “_oh, those are obviously faked_.”
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> These people need therapy. Lots and lots of Thorazine ought to do the trick.

Nah! They will say Obama bussed in some kids from somewhere else and slaughtered them instead, just for the show.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2014, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-chilling-new-type-of-denialist/688093/13 "2014-05-10T06:01:39Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> Is there a lower than that?

Probably. Conservatives is conservatives and you got to make allowances; but not excuses.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2014, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-chilling-new-type-of-denialist/688093/14 "2014-05-10T06:09:13Z")

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Every fraternity house I’ve ever partied in had an old headstone or memorial plaque stolen from somewhere.

Just sayin’.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2014, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-chilling-new-type-of-denialist/688093/15 "2014-05-10T06:27:25Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> I suppose to be convinced, they will have to see pictures of the carnage, because the press never published those, so how can we be sure. Goddam snuff-o-philes. So then, if they get to see the actual pictures (and phap to them), it will be, “_oh, those are obviously faked_.”
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> These people need therapy. Lots and lots of Thorazine ought to do the trick.

That’s not the type of “therapy” they need.

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**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2014, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-chilling-new-type-of-denialist/688093/16 "2014-05-10T07:12:28Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> That’s not the type of “therapy” they need.

My inner poet suggests that they should be shot, then told that their shooting was a hoax.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2014, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-chilling-new-type-of-denialist/688093/17 "2014-05-10T14:30:27Z")

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Plutoniumfoil hats?

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2014, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-chilling-new-type-of-denialist/688093/18 "2014-05-10T14:38:45Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> Is there a lower than that?

[Stealing a toy duck from a toddler’s grave](http://www.newsnet5.com/news/local-news/oh-richland/woman-who-stole-toy-from-gravesite-turns-self-in) set a pretty low bar.

Anyway, the news story linked to in the OP is unfair because it doesn’t tell both sides. :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2014, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-chilling-new-type-of-denialist/688093/19 "2014-05-10T14:41:44Z")

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I’m sure the NRA is secretly gloating over this as a wonderful, providential product of human stupidity, if they did not provoke it in the first place.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Nylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/77aa72/32.png) [@Mr.Nylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Nylock)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2014, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-chilling-new-type-of-denialist/688093/20 "2014-05-10T14:43:38Z")

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For some reason I thought it said dentist; my bad.

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